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Oh, I Am So Confused!! I Read An Article Re: PTSD

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I know this will sound stupid. I know the meanings of words. But they just don't make sense to me. I was reading the addition of bullying to the DSM-IV. It's not that I have a problem with that situation.

But,
What does 'integrity' mean? Really, truly? What's body threat? My father never bruised my mother or myself (unless it was on the head) because that would be stupid and he'd be found out.
My mom said (after divorce) not to sue him because he'd lose his high clearance with the government and that would be the end of the career. She begged me not to tell the Social Workers because my sister in law is one and my bro works in education and they have two beautiful children.

What does threat to self mean? Bodily harm. Brainwashing. Who's brainwashing who?

I feel really dead right now. I don't understand any of this.
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Emotional abuse is strange. So is bullying. And as my doctor has recently helped clarify for me: bullying by crazy people is different than bullying by bullies who are more cognizant of what they are doing.

Sometimes, when people are mentally ill, they think they are interacting normally with others. They surround themselves with all sorts of machinations and constructs that reinforce the notions, "I'm normal. I'm just having a normal conversation here." I thought I was interacting normally with my wife in the worst of the worst months before diagnosis. I was so ill at that point and she was at her wits end. I now see how downright crazy I was.

I grew up in a household where one parent had undiagnosed mental illness (likely severe cPTSD resulting from extremely severe childhood abuse and possibly some degree of DID). She emotionally abused both me and my sister. Her standard mode of conversation is a form of emotional bullying.

As my doc helped point out just recently, when you stand up to "normal" bullies and defend yourself, they often move on to another more compliant target. But when you confront a crazy bully, they often get much worse and immediately because you are challenging all those machinations and constructs. In my case, any attempt to establish what I instinctively understood to be healthy boundaries as a child and teen resulted in my mother committing acts of gross self harm, all the way up to a suicide attempt at the crescendo of our little pas de deux.

This creates an entrapping double bind, a prison without bars. Many abusers will do this via some means or another, you know, coerce via force or emotional abuse full compliance out of their victims. Sometimes abusers prey upon the remaining shreds of human decency in their victims, such as your mother's desire NOT to see harm come to other people, especially family. Of course she'd beg you not to reveal what happened. There may have also been reality based fears of repercussions.

Early in my recovery process my doc clarified that when we human beings are pushed to the limit and forced to make really lousy choices, especially a series of really lousy choices, where nobody really wins and where you are forced to chose between the lesser of two or more nasty evils, PTSD is often the result. We do the best we can with the options available at the time. These questions you have sound pretty normal to me. They echo some of the questions that haunt me in my more contemplative nightmares and teeter on the existential.

Lastly, regarding your question of "who's brainwashing who" -- like your situation, mine had two parents. Took me some time to realize the deep well of anger I have for my father. Not once did I ever see him do anything to stop my mother, to encourage her to get help. Instead, he went on as if our family was normal. He went out of his way to convince me of that on several occasions in fact. He even threatened to hospitalize me as a child and a young teen on several occasions when I did what anyone in my situation would have done: stood up for myself.

And that was the brainwashing I went through: stand up for myself and protect any sort of healthy boundaries and pick your punishment: get hospitalized or drive your mother to suicide.

Oddly though, through all those years, only once did anyone ever land a punch on me. And for years, that fact contributed to my own machination that I had not suffered any abuse and that any compliants I had was just me being a whiney brat upset about being told to eat all my green vegetables and go to bed at bedtime. Somehow, I'd blacked out all the really nasty stuff.

Anyways, yeah, what you are saying about being confused and dead inside sounds familiar. This crap is exhausting. And though some folks who haven't been through it might not get it: emotional abuse takes its toll and can really screw a person up.

Stay strong, Sigh. Keep seeking health and peace.

~ Blues
 
Hi Blues in NYC.
I guess I should have left the part about the bullying out because that's not really what I meant. I don't remember "before" -- there was no "before" in my life. My first memory is of my father sexually abusing me--and he managed to get away with it for a very long time. He "groomed" me. He still calls me "his little girl" yack!

This is what I mean by bodily integrity. How can I have any to be destroyed when I had none to begin with? There is no human element. And it's like when my boyfriend and I disagree, I can just see his face melt into my father's (he's not acting like him, it's just the whole concept of it).

Thanks to you.
S.
 
Sigh;
I don't have any 'before' either. We have no frame of reference for what integrity is, self-hood for that matter...........our personalities were affected so drastically that our sense of 'self' never had a chance to materialize.

However, with therapy and good people in our life, supposedly we are building that sense of 'self' now.

My BF was commenting the other day how he had this huge realization about why the little tiny plants in his driveway gravel bother him so much........he realized this was instilled by his father.

That little thing..........think of all the sick and degrading things that were instilled in us. But as he was saying this realization, I thought to myself.........after 4 years of therapy, my parents behaviors, attitudes and beliefs are shrinking. It's almost like those people are becoming so foreign to me now.......I'm deprogramming in a sense.

Now, the scary but good part is I have to program myself now.........hopefully a clean slate........I get to borrow from the behaviors and actions of the good people around me, from my T, from my healthy BF.............I get to actually make me.

I'm not them......I'm not what they did to me. Yes, I'm in that in-between spot where I don't really know who I'm becoming........but I get to do the choosing now.

So do you.
 
Thanks for Sharing

This crap is exhausting. And though some folks who haven't been through it might not get it: emotional abuse takes its toll and can really screw a person up.

Wow. Thanks for posting that reply, Blues. I endured 18 years of emotional abuse from someone who was rather unwell and everything you say is right on the mark.
 
Hi Blues in NYC.
I guess I should have left the part about the bullying out because that's not really what I meant. I don't remember "before" -- there was no "before" in my life. My first memory is of my father sexually abusing me--and he managed to get away with it for a very long time. He "groomed" me. He still calls me "his little girl" yack!

This is what I mean by bodily integrity. How can I have any to be destroyed when I had none to begin with? There is no human element. And it's like when my boyfriend and I disagree, I can just see his face melt into my father's (he's not acting like him, it's just the whole concept of it).

Thanks to you.
S.

Sigh, sorry to read some of what you endured. And I apologize if my response was too far off subject.

Though I had a before (the severe abuse, shaming rituals, etc. began somewhere between 4 and 6 and continued through my teens and every so often in my 20's), there wasn't much of one. So I too am trying to put together some of the basic stuff now in my late 30's. I think what TLight writes is correct. There is hope. It takes much time and work, but you can begin to form aspects of the self that were delayed in development for so long.

The question you ask regarding bodily integrity is a difficult one. I have not had to grapple with it in the way you are now. But I do grapple with behavioral and privacy boundaries in a big way. Where does one person let off and another begin? I think this line of questioning might be related to the heart of what you are asking, but perhaps only as a distant cousin? I don't know.

I wish you strength and inspiration on your journey.

Wow. Thanks for posting that reply, Blues. I endured 18 years of emotional abuse from someone who was rather unwell and everything you say is right on the mark.

You are welcome, PerfectEmpire.

~ Blues
 
Blues, don't worry about it, I was just grumpy about the whole situation. This is coming up because my bf is telling me that I am becoming my illness instead of my having the illness.

T--I was diagnosed with DID. With a lot of therapy, I think I've got it down to plain dissociation.

See what my problem is, is that my father never shot me with a gun, made me sleep in a hole, whipped me where my body could sustain fatal injuries. I guess I believe if it's not possibly fatal than it doesn't have to do with bodily integrity. He did strangle me, but he didn't kill me. He would grab my mom, but we never threw anything around in the house. No one got a day off--it's like you could never be proud of what you've done because he'd just take that away. What's an "extreme traumatic stressor" if it's happening to you every day? With my rape--okay, I have PTSD from it, it makes sense. But daddies don't do that to their little girls.

ach. 14 yrs and i am still in denial
sigh
 
Yes, I was in denial a long time too..........its a defense mechanism.

Now, every day upon awakening I know I have PTSD and I know I have to manage it and overcome the autonomic responses of this brain of mine. I have a mental disability...........but it doesn't stop me from living my life. Although, at times..........I have to stop, take a breath, listen to what it is saying and give it some time for whatever, then give it comfort.............I look at my PTSD as an animal that needs guidance, discipline, and loving.

It is better for me to recognize that my brain was injured by the abuse rather than just going about in my crazy..........and horrifically suffering way. I don't suffer so much this way.
 
My definition is that bodily integrity is where your body isn't violated in any way - it is a space where you are respected for having boundaries, a body of your own, and don't live in the constant threat of assault - living with the long term impact of either one major assault, or many major assaults, or many "minor" non physically scarring assaults.
Your body is yours, not someone else's to do what they like with for their own pleasure or venting of rage etc on.

On one end we have the extreme torture and severe physical abuse and chronic childhood neglect.
Then there's the non abusive kinds - major surgery, which can be experienced as and indeed is to one degree, violation, and certainly is part of the whole trauma - think Caesarian, hysterectomy, heart and other organ transplants
At the other end is my experience - an object thumped over my back repeatedly every maths lesson for almost a year, a chair thrown towards me. Chronic threats to my physical and emotional integrity. Which may seem 'minor' but left deep PTSD type wounding.

Complex PTSD or 'Prolonged Duress Stress Disorder' as some name it, includes the criteria of captivity or entrapment - having no escape route. For me, the bullies [in total more than 20 of them] followed me everywhere. There was no escape. And I couldn't escape home, where domestic violence was happening at home at the same time as the severe bullying at school.
 
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