Happy Head
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I'm not defending what he did (didn't do), I simply offered a possible explaination. He has since been put on leave.
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Happy Head
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ok, thanks for clarifying :)
I'm only going to say this...I personally witnessed the Universities protecting their "own" when my father was at the University of Oregon and again at the University of Idaho when he came up in court for child molestation charges himself...in fact the whole damn town got behind him!! IThe only way I got those charges into court were through another lawsuit and then the whole thing was tossed out. I ended up having to go out of state to get the job done. So I'm sickened by this and sick of hearing all the great things done by this place because it doesn't mean a thing if even one child's life is laid in ruins!
I can't even imagine what kind of people it takes to see something like this, to knowingly cover up something this up, to willing put innocent children in harms way all for the sake of reputation. It makes me want to puke!! If only a handful have come forward you can bet there are many many more that will never step up that are suffering in silence.
There is NEVER any excuse for something like this! He should have been fired and everyone and anyone related to this horror who knew anything and did NOTHING!! Adults are suppose to protect!
I can't even imagine what kind of people it takes to see something like this, to knowingly cover up something this up, to willing put innocent children in harms way all for the sake of reputation. It makes me want to puke!! If only a handful have come forward you can bet there are many many more that will never step up that are suffering in silence.
There is NEVER any excuse for something like this! He should have been fired and everyone and anyone related to this horror who knew anything and did NOTHING!! Adults are suppose to protect!
It's STILL luke-warm reporting here in PA! We've gotten the press conferance. The new president seems to be reassuring but still- these people are STILL on the payroll, and McQuery is what, in hiding only because of the threats on his life? Ok, no, he should not have to do that, but the implication is poor guy, emphasis on 'poor guy', not the child in the shower. He and Paterno and anyone else who knew hese children were raped should have been made a public example of and cut OFF from Penn State and any possibly association with Penn Sate, if that school wished to be serious about making retribtuions to the victims. Paterno was in a postition, in the public, to be THE ONE, when given this information, to hold a press conderance himself, and say 'WHOA! There's a pedophile in our midst-we have to stop him NOW, help the victims, look under every slimy rock for other pedophiles, make Penn State safe again, this is NUTS, people!!'. He had THAT kind of power, the celebrity power, where he could have by-passed all the official crap others needed to go through as far as reporting abuse. I'm increasingly angry with Paterno, given the kind of power he had at his fingertips and failed to use. The children simply did not matter, Sandusky must have just been considered to have this odd little quirk, no big deal to all of them.WOW.
The janitor who reported Sandusky showering with kids. This was yearsss ago-he was blown off. All these years you know he must have still been horrified, telling whomever he could,trying as best he could to be HEARD OR was threatened somehow to keep quiet! Which was it? He is now apparently stricken with dementia, poor man, and disallowed from testimony.
I almost popped a gasket also when they attempted to attach 'whistle blower' to McQuery.Arghhhh. You all have covered that so will not give myself another aneurism, but HOLY HECK, when is Penn State going to stop trying to spin this, come completely clean, admit the entire, unspeakable, filthy mess and get to those children and their families?
The janitor who reported Sandusky showering with kids. This was yearsss ago-he was blown off. All these years you know he must have still been horrified, telling whomever he could,trying as best he could to be HEARD OR was threatened somehow to keep quiet! Which was it? He is now apparently stricken with dementia, poor man, and disallowed from testimony.
I almost popped a gasket also when they attempted to attach 'whistle blower' to McQuery.Arghhhh. You all have covered that so will not give myself another aneurism, but HOLY HECK, when is Penn State going to stop trying to spin this, come completely clean, admit the entire, unspeakable, filthy mess and get to those children and their families?
Happy Head
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I'm so sorry Srain for the hoops you had to go through. Cases like this do nothing to help the victims or stigma... it's just not right.
What is even more sickening about this whole thing is that more info is surfacing every hour. Now they're reporting that 15!! people at Penn State knew about this over the years and countless people from his non-profit organization knew about it - especially after multiple people reported abuse to the directors and they denied everything... also, other people outside of Penn State had witnessed him. I read there was an incident during a bowl game in Texas many years ago... so really - all said and done - 100s of people knew about this for years! What the hell is wrong with people?
What is even more sickening about this whole thing is that more info is surfacing every hour. Now they're reporting that 15!! people at Penn State knew about this over the years and countless people from his non-profit organization knew about it - especially after multiple people reported abuse to the directors and they denied everything... also, other people outside of Penn State had witnessed him. I read there was an incident during a bowl game in Texas many years ago... so really - all said and done - 100s of people knew about this for years! What the hell is wrong with people?
BloomInWinter
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OMG....keeps getting better and better!
SANDUSKY was/is a FOSTER parent!
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SANDUSKY was/is a FOSTER parent!
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Penn State lost yesterday and I'm sorry they did. It's the kids. The list of victims grows with this.
Yes, I am asking for people to feel sorry for the normal kids also, the community who you know would have been sickened, outraged to know they'd been part of this putrid world. It's unspeakably unfair-think about it. The hundreds and thousands of tangental victims one pedophile has now claimed. WHOA! NO, of course not at the level each of Sandusky's sexual victims, that scumbag. Not even close. FOOTBALL is a 'thing', for the athletes, it's THEIR thing, especially.
My kids all played sports. my daughter especially. BOY- I think about the dedication, the early, early mornings, the after schools everyyyy day, the away games, the yearsss of practices. Years and years- the attention to academics, to make sure the schools are watching, in the case of the football athletics.
This was Senior Week, at Penn State. I'm sorry, but I saw some of it, and got tears in my eyes thinking about those boys. Their acheivements, POOF, in light of this pedophile's actions.
Every dam commercial during the game focused on the scandal too,Penn State getting the message of contrition out, or whatever. I guess they're trying, do not mean to be dismissive of that-what else could they do?
Still- MORE plain old kids, taken out in their own way, lives disputed, plans altered. Nope-like I said, nothing like on the level of children actually raped.
Do NOT mean to compare the severity. Still- for the kids, it's not just Penn State football equals money, or kudos for Paterno, the whole squalid ball of wax which enabled this pedophile to florish in the first place, it's what they did.Should have been their Senior Game, the cumulation of rolling around on a football field like puppies when they were 6 years old, finishing off there or maybe with further dreams in the NFL, who knows.
Sandusky took that away from them also, that's all and it just sucked, that's all.
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Yes, I am asking for people to feel sorry for the normal kids also, the community who you know would have been sickened, outraged to know they'd been part of this putrid world. It's unspeakably unfair-think about it. The hundreds and thousands of tangental victims one pedophile has now claimed. WHOA! NO, of course not at the level each of Sandusky's sexual victims, that scumbag. Not even close. FOOTBALL is a 'thing', for the athletes, it's THEIR thing, especially.
My kids all played sports. my daughter especially. BOY- I think about the dedication, the early, early mornings, the after schools everyyyy day, the away games, the yearsss of practices. Years and years- the attention to academics, to make sure the schools are watching, in the case of the football athletics.
This was Senior Week, at Penn State. I'm sorry, but I saw some of it, and got tears in my eyes thinking about those boys. Their acheivements, POOF, in light of this pedophile's actions.
Every dam commercial during the game focused on the scandal too,Penn State getting the message of contrition out, or whatever. I guess they're trying, do not mean to be dismissive of that-what else could they do?
Still- MORE plain old kids, taken out in their own way, lives disputed, plans altered. Nope-like I said, nothing like on the level of children actually raped.
Do NOT mean to compare the severity. Still- for the kids, it's not just Penn State football equals money, or kudos for Paterno, the whole squalid ball of wax which enabled this pedophile to florish in the first place, it's what they did.Should have been their Senior Game, the cumulation of rolling around on a football field like puppies when they were 6 years old, finishing off there or maybe with further dreams in the NFL, who knows.
Sandusky took that away from them also, that's all and it just sucked, that's all.
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Happy Head
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Totally agree anni. All those students, players, people in the community, even everyone who has been following it... This has been a lesson for all of us - and a sad one. I watched the game as well. I really was touched by the moment of silence when both teams stood on the center of the field mixed together as one group. The camera was scanning around the players and the fans in the stands. So many people were crying. I don't know why I was amazed by this but I was. Maybe it was the irony that all these people were sadded at the fact that SO MANY people let this guy slide for so long. They are dating the accusations back now over 15 years... it's just not right.
Poor Amethist, thank you! Thank goodness for the mods when someone is not taking a breath while ranting, huh? :) I appreciate that, it does read much better now and much more like the point I was attempting to make at the time.
I see another victim has come forward, God bless him. I'm watching the news. There is a stream of visitors dropping off balloons, putting up posters in front of his house 'We love you Jo-Pa', famous players stopping by being indignant for Paternos sake. Seems much. The facts show that he knew. He also had the sheer star power to circumvent the dam system which plain old did not care that a pedophile was running rampant, shut up the little guy with horrifying dismissiveness and consequences. What are these victims thinking, as someone who dozed off on their watch is so publically championed? Nothing which makes any more likely to make the decision to come forward. I wish the press would not at least cover this nonsense.
Sandusky's home life is in the news more, although of course not here in PA. He had adopted children and was a foster parent. That's just great. We had to jump through hoops to bring a rescue dog home, were we fit doggie parents. Sandusky was brought up on criminal charges for this same behaviour at a high school while also employed at Penn State, during his 'work' as a foster parent. To have missed that on his background check would be a bizarre oversight, I suppose one can't jump to the conclusion he was given special consideration because of his stature in the community. Still, what on earth happened there?
I see another victim has come forward, God bless him. I'm watching the news. There is a stream of visitors dropping off balloons, putting up posters in front of his house 'We love you Jo-Pa', famous players stopping by being indignant for Paternos sake. Seems much. The facts show that he knew. He also had the sheer star power to circumvent the dam system which plain old did not care that a pedophile was running rampant, shut up the little guy with horrifying dismissiveness and consequences. What are these victims thinking, as someone who dozed off on their watch is so publically championed? Nothing which makes any more likely to make the decision to come forward. I wish the press would not at least cover this nonsense.
Sandusky's home life is in the news more, although of course not here in PA. He had adopted children and was a foster parent. That's just great. We had to jump through hoops to bring a rescue dog home, were we fit doggie parents. Sandusky was brought up on criminal charges for this same behaviour at a high school while also employed at Penn State, during his 'work' as a foster parent. To have missed that on his background check would be a bizarre oversight, I suppose one can't jump to the conclusion he was given special consideration because of his stature in the community. Still, what on earth happened there?
Eleanor
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Just as an aside - The cool thing about people going to jail is that you don't have to pay them severance when you fire them.
There was an FBI profiler who wrote the manuel on abusers reported on in one thing I read. Pointed out a paradox - that the people closest to someone like Sandusky are the ones most likely to be taken in. So it falls most realistically to people who don't know him to keep track of what is going on. Usually we count on people closest to a situation to be best informed - but in this kind of a situation distance seems to be the thing that is needed... A cautionary tale, and something that gives this mom a new perspective...
On the other hand - what graduate assistant seeing a sexual assault doesn't know to call 911? That in a place that is supposed to be training young men to have moral character? Appalling.
There was an FBI profiler who wrote the manuel on abusers reported on in one thing I read. Pointed out a paradox - that the people closest to someone like Sandusky are the ones most likely to be taken in. So it falls most realistically to people who don't know him to keep track of what is going on. Usually we count on people closest to a situation to be best informed - but in this kind of a situation distance seems to be the thing that is needed... A cautionary tale, and something that gives this mom a new perspective...
On the other hand - what graduate assistant seeing a sexual assault doesn't know to call 911? That in a place that is supposed to be training young men to have moral character? Appalling.
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