People Faking Ptsd

[Pevolin]

So I feel directly targeted by the original post because I am directly targeted by the original post.

You are choosing the feel this way, no one else.

Your type of trauma wasn't targeting. No trauma was targeted in my view but a lack of a trauma.

Sure, there are many that sufferer from PTSD when PTSD isn't as apparent and maybe are advised by many that they are faking. This was discussed early in the thread if you up read.

But then you have people that truely are attmepting or actually are faking this illness for benefits. And then you also have those people that try to self diagnose and are usually way off. Many of those come here. These two things is what was being compared with actually being formally diagnosed with PTSD and what they have to go through to obtain this illness when the self diagnoser had to just have an upset or a bad trip on LSD to claim PTSD (its been on here, a few times).

But, again, being offended or not is your choice.

 

[Afif]

Why? For some of us, what we were doing when it happened is the last memory we have of being a functioning human. I used...

Thanks for the thoughtful and constructive replies. I couldn't imagine a reason for 'PTSD is earned' other than the insult that I perceived, it's helpful to start seeing past that limit. I don't know what it's like to 'remember the person before'. If there was someone who was sacrificed to PTSD, then I can see how important it would be to respect that person. Did a soldier who was shot 'earn the bullet'? It still doesn't sit well with me. A medal is closer to what they deserve.

I don't deserve a medal. I didn't choose to expose myself to risk. I was a child. I've worked hard to communicate better than I did at the time. There's exactly one thing that I have the option to be proud of, which is building someone out of the pieces that I have available.

I'm not accustomed to being proud of my body. I was weak and slow growing up. I dissociated from the body that failed me. Thank you for highlighting that, it's something for me to work on.

And thank you for showing me the error of my preconceptions when it comes to people who get their PTSD from adult trauma. It's nice to know that I'm not doomed to being a second-class sufferer.

 

[Uvij]

You are choosing the feel this way, no one else.

Your type of trauma wasn't targeting. No trauma was targeted in m...

I'm not saying that I was targeted for my trauma. I am saying that the OP in this thread was accusing people like me of being fakes. I accept that there are fakes. But how does the OP propose to separate the real from the fake? By comparing heroism, by measuring trauma. Not symptoms. Not duration of illness. Just good old Criterion A.

There was a time when people were advocating kicking people off this site if they didn't claim Criterion A in a credible way. So I find it threatening, to see a potential return to those debates.

I know that other people might not find it offensive. I'm not saying it is offensive. I'm saying that I'm offended, that it always comes back to Criterion A, and not a useful question like 'are they seeing a therapist and telling the truth?'

 

[Gite]

I'm really struggling with the rudeness and entitlement displayed by some on this thread. Ptsd is not fashionable, a fad, a club, a prize, or a collector item. It is a mental illness, period. Treating it as something exclusive and 'earned', is childish and de-legitimizes this condition as the serious mental illness that it is. Those attitudes contribute to the very nonsense that the OP and others here are frustrated about. Also, 'earned' is not just semantics. The use of that word, by definition, suggests that one has actively pursued something and has received a reward for their effort. Ptsd is not, and should never be viewed as, a reward for surviving a life altering trauma.

'Self diagnosed' actually means a whole host of different things, including 'in the process of being diagnosed', or 'not yet diagnosed', or 'I'm afraid to ask for help but clearly something is wrong', or 'I've been misdiagnosed so far', but according to some on this thread we can simply paint everyone as faking unless/until they get rubber stamped as diagnosed. *Not being diagnosed doesn't mean someone doesn't have ptsd*

As for comparing traumas... just don't. Trauma is a spectrum: something that's traumatic to you, won't be traumatic to me, and something traumatic to me, won't be traumatic to the next person. Trauma, and it's fallout, is extremely individual. Many here already struggle with questioning if their trauma was traumatic enough. Many here already struggle with the 'just get over it already' attitude from others. Whipping out the measuring tape and comparing traumas just feeds into these.

For example: ''And then you also have those people that try to self diagnose and are usually way off. Many of those come here....what they have to go through to obtain this illness when the self diagnoser had to just have an upset or a bad trip on LSD to claim PTSD''. There's nothing of substance to that statement, no evidence or statistics, just venom, entitlement, generalization, and opinion. This site is supposed to be about supporting each other, understanding, and helping. Writing about a specific person and their specific examples of faking would actually be really helpful, but generalizing like the above is not.

 

[Jukih]

Oh good grief!

I don't feel like I earned my PTSD either or that it should be viewed as something to be earned but I just feel like it was poorly chosen words to express a feeling.

Criterion A

Is in the DSM and ICD. No one should try to make someone leave this site even if they dont have PTSD. And since there is a supporter section I can't see that anyway. But that is the diagnosic Criteria. It does all boil down to that, since they are used to diagnose. Have a Crit A trauma then possible to have PTSD; don't then not possible but possible to have a whole host of other very similuar mental disorders in the DSM/ICD. Period. Now trauma isnt that clear cut on if it falls into Crit A and where but that is the trauma requirements for diagnosis.

 

[Ujek]

No one should try to make someone leave this site even if they dont have PTSD.

Last I checked this was a PTSD website.

For people WITH PTSD, in relationships with people WITH PTSD, students & researchers & anyone else interested in learning ABOUT PTSD.

 

[Loce]

For people WITH PTSD, in relationships with people WITH PTSD, students & researchers & anyone else interested in learning ABOUT PTSD.

Yes but

There was a time when people were advocating kicking people off this site if they didn't claim Criterion A in a credible way.

So how exacly can a supporter claim THEY, or prove their sufferer, was PTSD?

That is what I was saying.

 

[Kitocu]

was PTSD?

Has PTSD*

 

[Egamu]

I can't imagine anyone would be interested in having people "prove" PTSD.

There's a big difference between the focus of a site being a specific disorder, versus general mental health, versus Come one come all!

 

[Rituka]

Criterion A is one of the criteria. The letters keep going until H. PTSD and DSM-5 - PTSD: National Center for PTSD

When people accuse others of faking based solely on the (difficult to assess at times) criterion A and they talk about 'earning it', I'm going to continue calling those accusations garbage.

 

[Pabu]

People are missing my entire point so I am bowing out of this Crit A & "earning it" (which I never agreed with) convo.

 

[Kidin]

When people accuse others of faking based solely on the (difficult to assess at times) criterion A

Would you agree there's a difference between faking (knowing you don't have something, and intentionally pretending for whatever reason) & being wrong or misinformed?