News Propaganda And Psychological Warfare

[shimmerz]

Ah, to understand propaganda. This has been very eye opening for me. How I got to where I am and how I am going to get out of where I have been. So many people in my family(ies) have been and are like this. Hope this helps someone.

https://mikemcclaughry.wordpress.co...rfare-the-art-of-creating-insanity-mirroring/

Sometimes, if a person is really super-twisted in this way, they’ll bring in other liars in order to try and gang up on you. Imagine that – multiple sociopaths! Also remember, propaganda has no chance of working at all (this is well known) unless you come to doubt yourself. What a mess these people make.

lol. So my life....Quiet please, I am trying to imagine what is actually real. lol. OMFG.

 

[shimmerz]

I am talking familial and relationship issues, not political.

 

[rainy_daze]

The self-doubt that is created can be so difficult to break. It is strange how many people believe the liars over you too, as if somehow they cannot see through them. My father was/is a pro at it, to the point where people would tell me how wonderful he was all the time. This added salt to the wound of being abused. It was difficult to tell anyone, because why would they believe me, over this "wonderful" man?

I imagine he made up many stories about me once I cut him out in order to make me look like the bad person, when in reality, he is protecting his own ass.

I will read this link more fully today @shimmerz , thank you for sharing it. I relate to the part in bold a lot.

 

[rainy_daze]

I have so many thoughts/memories/epiphanies after reading this, I will maybe come back to the thread when I have processed. It's a very helpful and insightful article.

 

[Pencil]

I look like a mindless groupie: You post, I like :rolleyes:. We've had a few very similar experiences.

I don't have time now to respond in full. Tomorrow is the start of the trial - and the objective is to expose the lies, the cruelty, the reign of terror. If you don't pray, please do a rain dance, or eat feathers, or whatever it is you do when needed. I'll report back.

 

[shimmerz]

please do a rain dance, or eat feathers, or whatever it is you do when needed

I will do all of the above and (just because it is you @Pencil), I will also talk to my minister chick and have her ring the church bells for you.

In all seriousness, I am with you in spirit my friend. :hug:

 

[Ronin]

That article looked like some wanna-be psychologist wanna-be reporter couldn't decide what to do with a long day, but well, I liked the picture going with it, so article forgiven, there's pretties to look at.

Seriously though - I get gaslighting as a trigger, it's quite effective and easy to employ even for complete morons, let alone someone who works at it. But that's still not effecting me on nearly the same level; frustrating, angering, yes. But it's not a kind of weapon that I'm watching out for when it's just twisting the story and nothing at stake. That happens even without morons interfering with it. Stories get up and die out. So do nasty actions aimed at stirring emotional reaction.

Political propaganda is a different thing altogether and I don't like it, but then that's not the topic.

 

[shimmerz]

@Kaia, I so wish I could hang out with you regularly until I learn from you the 'oh well' attitude that you have for the types mentioned in the article. They completely spin me around. I don't see them coming until they have walked out of my life, leaving it in ruins.

No, it isn't just about gaslighting, although it has taken me great effort to even see that. It is multi-dimensional for me. I almost wonder if those of us who were raised by those who are inclined to the types of behaviours described in the article, have adapted in such a way that we actually have to work very hard at seeing the red flags for this behaviour, which may be glaringly obvious to others. Your comment gave me the opportunity to reflect on that and I thank you.

 

[Ronin]

@shimmerz, quite often the 'oh well' is honestly simply curiosity. As in: I know violent messes can be violent messes, what I *don't* know is if they're also capable of other reaction than that, and from that point it's mostly poking at possibilities. Exploring the unknown of how to get them to care, eventually how to get myself to not care about their not caring. (If I'm well. If I'm not, I'm back to 'minimal self preservation instincts but would do hella things for people I consider Mine because -they- matter.')

So it's not even as much having coping mechanisms as curiosity overruling all the other responses in my case, I think.

You're quite welcome, and I'm glad anything of these words is of any use to you.