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I really don't give a shit who the hell Savage is... or what he had to say about anything.
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Ptsd And Depression Sufferers Are "weak," "narcissistic," "losers"
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Good points BG,
It's unfortunate that there are and will always be people who abuse any system of help or treatment. It is hard to find acceptance for our condition when people are still harping on some of the issues that he brought up. As with many things here and abroad, it misses the point of which is people are not coming to get treatment for their PTSD because there still exists a stigma about it.
All I'll say is this; no one called, wrote or spoke to me about my conditions. I was severely wounded twice as well. If I hadn't gone out to seek out help for that I wouldn't have gotten it. To me that's what's wrong with any system that's setup and designed to purportedly help us. These other things get us all off track of what is needed and important. I don't see any of the systems getting better either so people running their mouths, no matter where they fall on the political divide, just puts money in their pockets and once again, we get f*cked.
Jar
It's unfortunate that there are and will always be people who abuse any system of help or treatment. It is hard to find acceptance for our condition when people are still harping on some of the issues that he brought up. As with many things here and abroad, it misses the point of which is people are not coming to get treatment for their PTSD because there still exists a stigma about it.
All I'll say is this; no one called, wrote or spoke to me about my conditions. I was severely wounded twice as well. If I hadn't gone out to seek out help for that I wouldn't have gotten it. To me that's what's wrong with any system that's setup and designed to purportedly help us. These other things get us all off track of what is needed and important. I don't see any of the systems getting better either so people running their mouths, no matter where they fall on the political divide, just puts money in their pockets and once again, we get f*cked.
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The problem that it isn't just people abusing any systems, and it is the systems that are failing the people. The system today when anyone talks about trauma, is to immediately bias all further judgement upon PTSD. Why? Because it is the news name for trauma, vastly spread, vastly over-cited, and in all reporting about trauma, the media don't bother mentioning all the other possible diagnoses. No... PTSD is all you here in relation to trauma.
As a result, we have a psychological system around the world that now shifts straight to PTSD when someone mentions trauma. These are the so called experts of mental health, and they themselves bias their own view, skipping all training and thought, and jump to PTSD. If this didn't happen, we wouldn't have people running around with a PTSD diagnosis because their partner left them, relationship broke down, they stubbed their toe, they had a minor car accident and are now anxious to drive a car again, and the list goes on.
The mental health industry has caused some of this issue. You still have mental health physicians using DSM IV criterion to diagnose PTSD, refusing to accept DSM V criterion. The industry is broken... its that simple. If you were a medical doctor you would have lost your license for what goes on within the mental health field and the looseness of what mental health physicians are doing in relation to subjectively diagnosing people with little or no prolonged foundational evidence to substantiate their diagnosis.
How many people here went in once, maybe twice, and got diagnosed with PTSD? Sure, some psychiatrists know it the moment they see it... but there are also so many false positives where anxiety, depression, panic and other diagnoses alone look exactly the same as a person presenting with PTSD, but with little time the symptoms fade and they're back into life... but now with a PTSD diagnosis and some $$$ in their pocket, remuneration of some kind or medical certificate to claim some bullshit special circumstance.
The problem of over-diagnosis is not untrue. The mental health industry is broken, over-diagnosis and misdiagnosis is rife within mental health.
Saying all that... it still doesn't give some tool the right to get on radio or other medium, tossing all veterans into the same basket as his actual meaning demographic, being those misdiagnosed or such. If this guy is some big shot of some business... I would think he could form an accurate sentence before opening his mouth.
As a result, we have a psychological system around the world that now shifts straight to PTSD when someone mentions trauma. These are the so called experts of mental health, and they themselves bias their own view, skipping all training and thought, and jump to PTSD. If this didn't happen, we wouldn't have people running around with a PTSD diagnosis because their partner left them, relationship broke down, they stubbed their toe, they had a minor car accident and are now anxious to drive a car again, and the list goes on.
The mental health industry has caused some of this issue. You still have mental health physicians using DSM IV criterion to diagnose PTSD, refusing to accept DSM V criterion. The industry is broken... its that simple. If you were a medical doctor you would have lost your license for what goes on within the mental health field and the looseness of what mental health physicians are doing in relation to subjectively diagnosing people with little or no prolonged foundational evidence to substantiate their diagnosis.
How many people here went in once, maybe twice, and got diagnosed with PTSD? Sure, some psychiatrists know it the moment they see it... but there are also so many false positives where anxiety, depression, panic and other diagnoses alone look exactly the same as a person presenting with PTSD, but with little time the symptoms fade and they're back into life... but now with a PTSD diagnosis and some $$$ in their pocket, remuneration of some kind or medical certificate to claim some bullshit special circumstance.
The problem of over-diagnosis is not untrue. The mental health industry is broken, over-diagnosis and misdiagnosis is rife within mental health.
Saying all that... it still doesn't give some tool the right to get on radio or other medium, tossing all veterans into the same basket as his actual meaning demographic, being those misdiagnosed or such. If this guy is some big shot of some business... I would think he could form an accurate sentence before opening his mouth.
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I can almost be angry at this prick. Which means I'm starting to feel better. All damn week I simply agreed with him on a personal level. Not for any other vet, but for myself. Yep. I'm a weak, narcissistic, coward who doesn't deserve to be here anymore. Can't fight. f*cking worthless.
Which is why I didn't post shit. Woulda been some maudlin BS. Upside at least is that I've been doing this long enough to know its BS and I'll get my fight back sooner or later. Who I feel for are those who are trapped in worthless for the first time ever and will take that kinda shit to heart. How many f*cking people get pushed over the edge by this kind of poisonous for-real-cowardly bullshit?
I don't care who these assholes are. Famous, influential, random guy on the street. They get their rocks off by kicking other people when they're down. Too f*cking pansy to pick a target on their feet. Nah. They only go after people who are hurting so bad they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper sack (and fakers who think the sack is hardcore so would never be touched by it). Snort.
Love the open-letter CGF. Yep. Since limp-dick thinks he can do so much better, I'll chip in to have his ass sent frontline anywhere. Ideally, gift wrapped for the other side, since I wouldn't want anyone who actually mattered put at risk. He's done enough of that, already.
Which is why I didn't post shit. Woulda been some maudlin BS. Upside at least is that I've been doing this long enough to know its BS and I'll get my fight back sooner or later. Who I feel for are those who are trapped in worthless for the first time ever and will take that kinda shit to heart. How many f*cking people get pushed over the edge by this kind of poisonous for-real-cowardly bullshit?
I don't care who these assholes are. Famous, influential, random guy on the street. They get their rocks off by kicking other people when they're down. Too f*cking pansy to pick a target on their feet. Nah. They only go after people who are hurting so bad they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper sack (and fakers who think the sack is hardcore so would never be touched by it). Snort.
Love the open-letter CGF. Yep. Since limp-dick thinks he can do so much better, I'll chip in to have his ass sent frontline anywhere. Ideally, gift wrapped for the other side, since I wouldn't want anyone who actually mattered put at risk. He's done enough of that, already.
We need people like him to save us? Then hop to it, hero. There's 2 countries worth of people just begging to capture him and cut his f*cking head off, right now. Let's make a Kickstarter account and get people to pitch in to buy him a one way ticket.
There are not enough colorful words I can use against this guy right now. Pretty f*cking pissed off.
There are not enough colorful words I can use against this guy right now. Pretty f*cking pissed off.
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Had a fellow soldier who would drink several rockstars and monsters a day after about a year his kidneys actually shut down on him, doctor even said it was due to drinking that shit.
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