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Ptsd And Philosophy?

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Anyone here with PTSD studying philosophy? I can see it being both good and bad; but ever since I have had PTSD, subjects like trusting people seem almost like philosophical dilemmas. For example, are people inherently good, or why do bad things happen to good people; are common questions for PTSD sufferers to ask. Instead of putting my head through emotionally exausting thought cycles like I used to; I started to approach these questions scientifically.

Existentialist philosophers like Sartre, and Nietzsche; have some pretty harsh criticisms against society. Sartre had his issues with the way people in France perceived him at the time of his fame; the gossip, lies, and criticism eventually drove him to write a book describing Hell to be in the form of the people around him. Nietzsche's issues with society had a lot to do with hippocrisy and the average persons inherent hunger for power over others. Eventually he became a recluse and maintained a lonely relationship with a horse he saved from his abusive master.

I wouldnt reccomend these philosophers to those who are in some early stages of PTSD; for it truly did affect the way I saw people. I found myself becoming suspicious of friends and family members; I really just wasnt doing enough research. From what ive read, I feel like both Sartre and Nietzsche described modern society's condition; that it is a cold dark place not soo much governed by ethics but by principles of blatant self interest, projection of universal insecurities, greed and consumption, etc. How to prepare ourselves for these sort of trials I found more in post-modern philosophy

At the moment I am currently trying to regain my sense of safety around others, not by trusting anyone that seems nice but by being more assertive. I feel a great need to assert my individuality around others, just to let them know that I cannot be taken advantage of. Lately I have been asserting my right to just simply be assertive; for I have been wronged by people in the past too many times while being blamed for it. Its not high school anymore, so any of that sort of bullying can constitute jail time for some individuals; but other byproducts of that social life become very apparent in the adult world. Insults are more diplomatic and charming, I guess politically correct? Manipulation is now redefined in a world of finances, marriages, careers, etc. Freedom now is something that has to be earned with hard work, not by making ones bed in the morning and doing daily chores.

Theres soo much that has to be secured in the real world, it almost feels like its hard to survive and stay a good person all at the same time. Furthermore, we have to protect ourselves that want to threaten our freedom for their own personal gain; they are in a sense surviving too. Well, we cant all be at eachothers heads and also expect to get along; but this game of life can be easier for the more privelaged people who have gained their status with hard work and support from their peers.

For the rest of us, well we got alot of fighting to do before we can be accepted into society again; atleast thats how I feel. Pragmatic theory is one of those things that helped me fish out people that are worth of my time. No PTSD sufferer wants a supporter that merely wants to feel better than the sufferer with sarcastic condescendence. Those sorts of people would be considered "Strategic communicators" who do not want to exchange ideas but merely want to use words to satisfy a self interest (insecurity?). A "Pragmatic communicator" will communicate with you for practical reasons, to exchange ideas in a way that both parties will be happy at the end of the conversation. If everyone in this world was a pragmatic communicator; I do not think this forum would ever have to exist, unfortunately thats not the world we live in, but it can be our responsibility to make it better.

I feel like I can write more but then I wouldnt be making my point. Im just wondering if anyone is using philosophy to fight their PTSD. It seems to be working for me in theory, I just cant seem to relate to the people in my viscinity because its a low income area and people are usually offended by philosophy here. I feel like I am bigger than my illness because of what I have been feeding my mind. Study Immanuel Kant, gave me more confidence about whats right and whats wrong. Lyotard gave me more confidence in my ability to have real and completely mutual relationships. Sartre gave me the confidence to assert the identity that I believe in. Nietzsche helped me understand the way of the world by teaching me about Power.

I feel that this could greatly help individuals that do not merely want to tolerate their illness but overcome it. I do not however, suggest this venture for everyone for it wasnt easy for me to digest everything that I was learning. Just my 2 cents.
 
Very interesting topic!

I have studied very little philosophy. Only one course as an undergrad!

I don't have much to say on the topic. However, I have personally found philosophical thinking to be detrimental to my healing.

Why do bad things happen to good people? Honestly, bad things happen to everybody. And conversely, good things happen to everybody. Some less, some more, but you get my point.

In the end, "why" really doesn't matter. Why was I abused? Simply because bad people do bad things. Adding some sort of meaning where there is none is a human flaw IMHO. Perhaps I should reiterate. Adding POSITIVE meaning is where the flaw lies.

I know lots say things along the lines of "I endured this trauma to make me a stronger person". I cry foul. It's an attempt to find comfort and strength when something bad happens.

Yes, I've gone off on tangent, and it's not exactly what you were getting at. My point is that philosophizing the "why" is detrimental to me. I have found acceptance to work much better, as the "why" isn't so important to me. (Even if I had a definitive answer to "why?" it wouldn't bring me any comfort, so why waste my time worrying about it?)

But...different strokes for different folks. If it works for YOU, that's what counts!
 
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PTSD to me feels like just a bunch of unanswered questions; I'm pretty much doing the only thing that I know how to do. Intellectualize my issues, it hasn't done me much harm. I've come to accept facts about messed up people, but I think it takes a little more thinking to realize that these people don't have power over me. Its not soo much thinking, there's alot of action i need to take order for me to feel free and have peace of mind.

I feel that the way I live is very important to my healing process; and perfecting a way of life is somewhat of an unending journey. I'm holding myself accountable for my weaker understandings about happiness that probably put me in all the wrong places; philosophy tends to be very adamant about the idea of happiness being a way of life and not a state of mind. Philosophy is a very broad subject that may be worthwhile to some, but I agree not everyone.
 
Jacques Lacan had an interesting theory about how perception is formed in the same way as language. Its a psychoanalytic philosophy, but, if you like that kind of thing, it might be interesting.

I'm naturally analytical and philosophical about situations that are difficult, but it can be a way that avoids the basic emotions. For example, I understand in great depth why an ex was abusive, but that understanding helped me to stay in the relationship and accept all the guilt for what he did.

I don't believe in heaven/hell or good and bad in that sense. But to help me heal, I find I have to simplify situations, so rather than explain away what other people have done in some philosophical way, it's more helpful right now to understand situations from how I experience them, and being attacked it bad for me.
 
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