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Relationship Ptsd And The Children Involved

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Thank God they are too young to know/realize what is going on.

The first time I considered jumping under a bus, rather than go home from preschool I was 2-3 years old.

We have a magistrate in Australia Barbara Holborow who says if a child misses out on that love and care from 0-5 it can take up to an average of 27 years to catch up.

As a kid I always knew what was going on and I was always scared.

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But what about the kids? Does anyone know how this affects them? I constantly worry about them not having the happiness they deserve because their father won't get help and can go off at any moment.

There have been studies down on the effects of children - physical abuse leaves long lasting effects. How you let your partner treat you, will be how your children allow themselves to be treated by their partners (and other people) or how they treat their partner (and other people).
 
Being in a PTSD environment puts a child at risk for trauma, because children often mimic the feelings (not to mention behaviors) of the parent. The more disorganized the parent, the more disorganized the child.
The children are also ripe for other types of abuse as well. Sexual predators will gravitate to unstable families and homes as they can groom children with some sustained attention.

I made a point on another thread that I wish to reiterate- Without child abuse, this forum would not have the number of members that it does. Child abuse may not have developed the PTSD, but it can give a disposition for it. It is bad enough that PTSD is ruining your husbands life. Do not let it ruin your children's lives too.
I read a study that stated that 70% of parents that physically abuse their children are at high risk of also sexually abusing their children as well. I will try and find it. I read it summarised in a newspaper so my interpretation might not be spot on.
 
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Mentally I have made the decision to not go back to my husband. Then when he gets his "release" of aggression he's all smiles for awhile. It's a very typical abusive cycle. Our children saw this, though VERY young, I think my daughter started her temper tantrums early because she saw daddy throw things. This only worries me for the future because if I was to stay and he kept with his attitude and not getting any help, the impact on my kids would be too great and too horrible.

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Fender- It is difficult to answer your question based on the information that you have given. While you have described her assessment with her doctor and her relationship with her stepdad, you have not indicated what kind of person she is. Young or mature for her age, outspoken or withdrawn, how does she handle real life events and social impacts, etc.

At 17 most children are capable of having very detailed conversations that cover very difficult circumstances. If she is a normal or mature 17 year old, she very well may benefit a great deal if you just offer her every truth that there is about the situation with the step fathers PTSD. Understanding the condition may offer her the reassurance that she needs so that she can say "It isn't me, this is him going through something that has nothing to do with me. There is nothing wrong with me." Because in the end, a 17 year old girl needs to know (as do most children regardless of age and gender) that there is nothing wrong with "them". Understanding his condition may cause her to think it through and find comfort in the fact that he is suffering rather than focusing on how his behavior is hurting her. And your honesty on the topic will allow her to place her trust in you when it comes to such confusing circumstances.

Use this forum- there is a great amount of information here, or do some research and have her help you with it. Read as much as you can together, and discuss it. Break that information down and learn to understand it in depth.

I hope it helps you both.
 
Now he's cut us off from his life because of PTSD issues worse than he's ever faced before. Its hard enough for me to figure out and deal with, and its not something she should have to deal with at this stage of her life. I'm never sure how much of my grief, or how much of what's going on, should be shared with her.

In my experience, SKog is right - it depends on the girl. But usually 17 year old girls (girls in general) need to be helped away from "making things up." That is, most girls do a lot of self-talk and trying to figure things relationship out - with extremely variable success. With SKog I think that the more information she has on what is going on with HIM and how, while it has a huge impact on their relationship, it is in no way about HER, and that she has little power to help/change things for him - as devastating and disappointing as that is - the better. And you can model that for her. IMHO kids need to see the human side of their parents, and that includes grief and pain. The trick is to let them see this without giving them the impression that they can/should be responsible for "fixing" it. It is a fine line - being compassionate without "diving in". And it is a life skill worth its weight in gold...

So sorry for you three. Wishing hope and healing for you all...
 
Thanks and that is what I have decided. It's sad that it has come to this, but I came from a very stable family life and can't put my girls through this.

The most powerful influence on girls future behavior is their mother's behavior. If you model not putting up with the abusive behavior - they will not either.

I am so sorry it has come to this for you:cry:. Sending courage, strength, and peace your way.... and peace and healing to your H.
 
Children model the parent they most identify with, (personality, temperment, roles, etc.) all factor in, so it is not necessarily based on gender of the child. Parents are the most significant role model in the childs life during the formative years. Children may not understand what is going on, but are none less effected by situations.

When someone is angry, breaks thing, slams doors, punches walls, this is domestic abuse and there is an underlying message--- Its the door, the wall, or the object-and you may be next. It is only a matter of time for an escalation to physical assault.

Few batterers do change. When they do, it is IMHO, due to their won insight and loss or fear of loss. However, if a partner threatens to leave or even does leave, that does not seem to be the determining factor. First I think it is within them, nobody else can make them change. Secondly, when their partner is leaving but really does not want to, is afraid of being alone for any variety of reasons-(religion, fear of making it alone, financial, lonliness, feeling failure, sake of kids, outside pressure), the abusing partner also senses this and may make short term improvements without changing their beliefs, and the behavior returns when the leaving partner comes back. I think when we are genuinely willing with confidence, to not have a partner rather that tolerate, the chance for change is best, but no guarantee.

I have also heard many women say that the abusive parent is a really good father though. I dispute that strongly. A good father does not hurt the person the children love most, does not intimidate, threaten and abuse the childs mother. They are risking their childrens well being as much as a father who drives drunk, it is just less visible in the short term. The effects are insidious.

I can say that I had my first daughter and was married to an abuser. Never knew what kind of mood he would be in when he came home. I did things to keep peace. I was always on eggshells. Years later I remarried and life was calm. I realized that when I read my kids a bedtime story, I was really there, I was present and spontanious. First time around, I was not really ever there, I was reading but my words were probably flat-as I was trying to remember what I forgot to do that might set him off. When we are worrying, we are not there for our children. I am so sorry for what I missed with my oldest daughter.

Mary Jones-the fact that you are here and questioning is evidence that you are a very caring parent, and a very strong person. You must feel safe and help your children to feel safe.
 
Verbal abuse, violence (throwing things), emotional abuse, and abuse towards a pet is classified as domestic violence in my book.
Mine too! And you don't deserve to be treated like this Mary! No one deserves to be treated like this. Imagine if we had a whole generation who grew up not being abused in their homes? I can't even imagine what those people would be like.

It is up to you to decide what is best for you and the children. You have no control whether you husband seeks help for his PTSD or not, but you do have control over how you decide to live or not live with it.
You are very brave to even think about it Mary! I admire you. This is not easy.

Not an easy choice and I wish you best as you work through this.
No these situations are very difficult.

Can you get counselling for your children?

Do you have a T?

Good luck,
 
Maybe once your husband see's that this is the only way forward, it may kick him to do something about this.

Hope can be a cruel emotion. He also may not change.

I have been waiting for my family to change for over 40 years now. I am now going on regardless of what they may or may not do in the future.

You can't plan your future counting on him stepping in at some point and being a responsible H and father. Otherwise you will waste most of your life, waiting, like I have.
 
When someone is angry, breaks thing, slams doors, punches walls, this is domestic abuse and there is an underlying message--- Its the door, the wall, or the object-and you may be next. It is only a matter of time for an escalation to physical assault.
And growing up with that - always having had the hyperalert hyervigilance and shot gun startle response is no picnic let me assure you. The constant not knowing what is coming next. Though I tried and tried nothing every stopped the random acts of violence towards every thing and every one and all the pets as well.

Even if the parents fight about it at night, you lie, shaking, in your bed.
 
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