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Relationship Ptsd Bf Has Life And Relationship On Hold For 5 Years Now.. What To Do?

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DeedeeRSM

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Hi all,

This is the second time I post here...

I really don't know what to think anymore.

My bf of 3 years is a sufferer. He can't sleep a night through, always night terrors, I feel so bad for him.
During the day though, he is fine. In general though, he's unhappy he tells me.

But here's the thing..He's slacking his therapy and I just don't get it. I helped him so much with writing down the things that caused his trauma for him to give to his therapist, so that he wouldn't have to think about it himself.

For a year now, since he started therapy, he's either not going and then telling me he did go, or he goes and then talks about daily life with his therapist. This all was supposed to end with the written experiences he gave to his therapist. Then his therapst made him an appointment with a psychiatrist, said that she would take it from there, and he would only be concerned about hi daily life, and getting it back on track. I was thrilled to hear this, how stupid that may sound. I really see therapy as his 1 way out of the hell he's been in for years now. I know it will never really cure, but it's the only thing that will help him at least.

But then he starts slacking again, he was supposed to call the T and he just waits around for 4 weeks, and then calls him. Meanwhile he keeps having nightmares and keeps complaining how he can never sleep. I just dont get it. WHY would you not take the chance to get SOME relieve?

Then there's another issue..I have before felt like my bf was using his ptsd as an excuse to behave like an a-hole. And to not do anything in life. He literally hangs out with his best friend, goes shopping, cooks plays video games and plays soccer with his friends. That's his day. Has been for 3 years now, ever since I've known him. Maybe I'm harsh and his ptsd causes him not to be able to do ANYTHING like having a job at least, or at least...but I feel like if he can do the fun stuff then he can also do other things..or am I very wrong here?

I go to college, work, have a sick aunt I do groceries for, my own house to clean, so you can imagine I have limited time I can see him. Especially because he doesnt want to live together (he thinks my house is too small and he lives with his parents) and he has weird times he wants to hang out. He never wants to make pre-set appointments for dates, and because he likes to sleep late and wake up late, he can only sleep over in weekends. (I get up early during the week and he doesnt want that so he rather stays at home). We can't even catch a movie during the week, because he only wants to go to the late shows, because he ''hates crowds''. More things like this though...

I know I cannot expect from him as much as I'm doing at this point or to go ahead and get a career, because of the PTSD, but I can at least expect him to go to his therapy regularly (which is for his own good!!) and expect him to help me out with I don't know, groceries, or early dates etc, some compromise on ANYTHING? He has no passions in life at this point whatsoever except for videogames and soccer. He says he has career objectives, but he never does anything for it.

His selfishness has something to do with his PTSD he says, but I dont believe it. Judge for yourself: I only see him 2 times a week at this point, usually Wednesdays and Saturdays due to my work school study schedule and his soccer. He wanted to see me Wednesday, said he missed me, but he promised his dad they would watch a game together at 10 in the evening. We agreed to eat when I get home around 6, watch a movie, then he would leave and I would study. The next day he calls me, and during the convo he remembers that h also had a soccer game with his friends planned at 7 that evening. So naturally I expect him to either cancel the game with his dad and have a late dinner with me (he lives with his dad, so they watch games multile times a week), or he could take me with to his match and then we get dinner afterwards. But no, he wants to postpone OUR date to the next day. Imagine, I only see him 2 times a week. This kind of thing, and this was not the first time this happens. Now here comes the part where he throws PTSD in: He says You know that playing soccer is good for my mental health, you are not thinking about my well being AT ALL, why would you want me to cancel it? Except...I never asked for him to cancel. See the irony?

I find him to be a selfish, lazy person...and he says it's because of his PTSD he acts like this. But I'm not sure. Am I being too harsh? I believed him about not being able because of his problems but after 3 years I kinda dont believe it anymore.

I would especially like to hear from sufferers, please be brutally honest with me, am I being too judgmental here? Should I be more considering, or is my instinct right and is he using his PTSD as an excuse?

Sorry bit long...I just dont know who else to ask...
 
So, what's the point of this relationship?

I've just been involved in a conversation with my therapist about "appropriate grounds for ending a relationship." He said, "The Germane question is, How Do You Feel, Think and Plan about YOURSELF within this relationship arrangement ?" He also said that YOU are the one person you have to live with for your entire life.

So, how would you answer those questions? Sounds to me like maybe you don't like the guy too much the way he is and you'd like to "fix" him. I'll grant that therapy is for his own good, but I'm not sure that's really your problem, is it? Either you want a relationship with the person he IS, or you don't.
 
Oh no, I don't want to ''fix'' him, that's not my point at all...I'm just not sure whether he's using it as an excuse or not. Being selfish and lazy can be part of his personaity but it can also be part of his mental condition...that was my question..

See if it is his personality, I don't see myself staying, but if it's something he can work on, I want to be with him forever.
 
See, I can't possibly see life through his eyes, or feel what he feels, I'm trying to understand and decide, like your therapist said,determine if it's worth it for me to stay..I believe that in a relationship, regardless of anything, both sides should put in effort, to their own ability..
 
To me, there is a lot of growing up to be done from both sides. At any rate, why would you entertain moving in with someone who is clearly unmotivated to helping himself? You are cooking your own recipe for disaster. This is neither the time nor place for either of you to be in any kind of a relationship. Finish school yourself, find work in your field, cut him loose for now, maybe forever. You will never change him, and he has shown he has no desire/inclination to do so for himself.
 
I think it will make it easier for the two of us if we lived together, it wouldn't be such a hassle to see each other, btw he lives 10 minutes away from me atm.

I don't want to change him, I want him to get into the spiral going up instead of down. Take his therapy seriously, that's what I would love for him to do. I've been trying to motivate him but it's like he doesn't want to get into a better state. He's fine with how things are at the moment and suffers a great deal at the same time...

I've read posts on this forum before, I know there are sufferers, who DO put it effort for their relationships and who are considerate to the extend they can. My bf basically says he cannot compromise on anything of himself because of PTSD. I just don't believe that.
 
I may be off base and you can totally blow off what I say, but I will say it anyway. You need to take care of you.

To me he sounds like a slug. PTSD does zap your energy and drive but in my experience it zaps All the drive and not just the certain things like getting a job. I find no pleasure in anything and I couldn't concentrate enough to follow a TV ball game .

I have a grown child that still lives at home and the fact that he lives with his dad is understandable. Choosing to hang out with Pop and canceling on you is not acceptable...unless it was dad's birthday or other special occasion.

Video games I get. They provide mindless hours of escape. Soccer I get, but not to the exclusion of all else. Having you available only on his schedule and only to meet his needs is not acceptable.

I can't tell you what to do, certainly, but I would start requiring at least some acknowledgement that I am an important person of value from him.

If he loves you, he needs to show it. PTSD people are generally overly empathic and he does not seem to show that he recognizes your feelings. selfishness seems more like depression or narcissism .

If he wants you in his life he must let you be part of it. He can't put you on a shelf and just take you down and play with you at his convenience and put you back on the shelf!
 
I do not pretend to know how all sufferers are. But I will say my sufferer does not sleep well and while she does relatively well at her job, it is her primary focus, personally she just does not do being committed to be or do anything else well. She makes absolutely vital things most of the time. (ex: dr appts, must get the car to the shop, MUSTS) But as far as anything remotely social, the rule of thumb is wing it. Between health, sleep, and anxiety issues she prefers not to decide ahead of time. Something which makes someone like me INSANE. Plans? What is that?!

It sounds like most of his activities are like that too, adjustable to however he feels that day.
Not sure what to say about the attitude that you must adjust to his ptsd not him to you, that is true to an extent, but I am not trying to have a romance or make a life with my sufferer, just a close friendship. I too am frustrated with that attitude. It smacks of being self-centered. It is hard to accept ptsd and realize it will always be that way, your needs will always be secondary to whatever it takes them to cope. (My sufferer does well, but could do better if she went to therapy, learned communication skills. It isn't always her behaviors or isolating, but her inability to communicate that makes it hard on others.) Just the words "this is how I am, I can't change," make me angry. It is not that the ptsd can be changed, it is the way she deals with symptoms and their effects on others in her life.
 
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You want to change him. Well, he needs to want to change and the fact is he doesn't want to change. Accept him as he is or move on.

Please don't think that moving in together will fix things. I can see the first day going horribly wrong with you getting up early and him needing more sleep.

Cut this one loose.
 
The title of this thread says five years. Five years of not working, not taking legitimate steps to get in a better place in order to do so, looks like that may be it for life. I have two sufferers in my life and they are both workaholics. Work is predictable, controlled, and a place they can socialize on a superficial level. Both of them give their best efforts to keeping themselves self-supporting. Do you really want to be his sole support on and on? If you feel resentful now, it sure won't get any better!!
 
yes, before I met him he was like this as well..that explains the 5 years, we've been together for 3.
Money is not an issue for him, he has a lot of savings.

I wouldn't even be angry if he needed more sleep, in fact it happens when he ocassionally sleeps over on week nights. He has my key. The thing is he complains when I go to bed early the night before, he doesnt want to be here when I cant spend time with him and go to bed instead...So he expects me then to go to bed late and hang out with him, and still wake up early. Or he just stays at home. That is another example right there. Its as if he only wants the fun parts of it all...much irresponsibility.

I guess I'm complaining.

So is it just him or is his behaviour a common behaviour among (untreated) PTSD?

Thanks btw for the replies guys
 
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