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Undiagnosed Ptsd-like Symptoms Even Though I Can't Recall Anything From The Assault Itself?

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Roughly 15 years ago I was mugged/attacked walking home with friends. I have some memories from before, though how much of that is me actually remembering or based on the recollection of my friends I don't know. And I can remember getting to a friend's house, waiting in the emergency room, having some guy stich me up and then getting home afterwards. But it's more hazy and dream-like, almost like a slideshow. I don't know what happened, according to my friends they later found me behind a hedge that was too high to climb over and too dense to get through. I don't remember if they did any tests/scans at the hospital, but I don't think so. I also can't remember what the attackers look like,, which as I'm writing this seems odd, since they had been sitting with us at the beach for an hour or two before.

Anyway, no one seemed to be bothered that I couldn't remember anything, the scars weren't that bad and ultimately I moved on. In 2006 I left my hometown and moved to the US. In 2009 I was diagnosed with ADD by a psychiatrist and she prescribed ADD medications for me until I moved back home a few years ago. Shortly after, I increasingly started having more difficulty falling asleep, sleeping well or through the night, and once in a while I would wake up covered in sweat. I put it down to the climate (no AC..), nightmares, the bed/pillow, or the changed meds and dosage (since the same aren't available in Europe unfortunately). I started to hate people ringing the door, because I would either wake with a racing pulse or startle/freeze feeling like I was just caught doing something naughty. In the beginning I tried various mattresses, pillows and started taking melatonin. I also started using earplugs, which helped but also made me feel more anxious. I noticed I always slept better when I wasn't in my hometown: I had no trouble falling sleep, I was more rested and I didn't startle as often.

Then starting around this Easter weekend, I wasn't able to fall asleep at all. I lay awake for hours, and if I managed to doze off for a moment, something always woke me within an hour. A few times I managed to catch some sleep around 10/11am. Then the other day I was jolted awake, heart pounding, by a tiny pop of an expanding water bottle, even though I was using the ear plugs. That episode kept bugging me, because of the incredible overreaction and also because I realized how often simple things like a neighbor slapping a door close would startle/almost freak me out. When I stumbled over a list of PTSD symptoms somewhere and I saw the "exaggerated startle response" listed, the assault immediately came to mind.

My first search was for memory loss in combination with PTSD and at first the results looked promising. But they all referred to key details or memories missing, or not being able to recall details weeks after the event. Or just having vague feelings. I also read about people thinking/inferring something may have had happened to them based on triggers, nightmares etc. I know something happened, I have memories from before and jumbled ones from hours after. But nothing from what actually happened. Not back then and not now. Not even some vague feeling or image, nor the length or time. Or how they look like, after sitting across from them for an hour or two. At the trial I didn't even feel anything consciously or subconsciously when I looked at them and gave my statement.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read all of this. I'm looking into psychiatrists for some expert opinion and/or help, but in the meantime I was hoping for some feedback. I've read that PTSD sometimes might get misdiagnosed as ADD, and a lot of the other symptoms fit or make sense looking at them from this perspective (trouble sleeping in my hometown, but not anywhere else for example), but I'm not going to start diagnosing myself ;). And describing what happened in the first paragraph left me feeling anxious and restless, which took me a while to realize.

So, is this something I should bring up, or is PTSD dependent upon some/any recollection or memory?
And should I be concerned about a complete memory loss, even 15 years later? I used to just shrug it aside, now it has me a little worried.
 
Roughly 15 years ago I was mugged/attacked walking home with friends. I have some memories from before,...
Hi there zouper. Thanks for the post. Welcome to this community.
I am sorry for the trauma you suffered. Glad that you found us. This is a good and safe places for us to come, share and support each other.
There are to many similarities In disorders for a lay person to diagnose PTSD or any other Mental illness. I would do as you have said you are seeking out a Psychiatrist to make a diagnoses. I would encourage you to do that ASAP. You have describe a very familiar set of symptoms to what I and lots of others I think can relate to. Again welcome.
Peace be safe
 
Welcome to the forums!

The way you describe not remembering this traumatic event fit with PTSD. It also fits with having a mild concussion which can happen with assault and lead to someone never remembering the event.

I was attacked once and I don't remember it but have symptoms related to it. I remember the sound of knocking on the door. I remember a few snap shot like images at the hospital. I don't remember the assault itself.

I know I was assaulted because I have the 911 tape and the attacker confessed. I have heard my voice on the tape screaming for help. I don't remember the screams or even calling 911. And I still don't have first hand memory of the assault.

I have a friend who fell and had a mild TBI. They don't remember the fall at all, but they totally did fall, and was taken to the ER and etc. They were not traumatized by another human, but had lingering TBI symptoms like impulsivity and anger and loss of a good attention apan.

PTSD is not dependent on a recollection of a traumatic event. In fact, not remembering a confirmed traumatic even can actually be a symptom of PTSD.

To really sort out ADD vs PTSD vs other possibilities, a neuropsych eval might be worthwhile - but if first be sure to meet with a good therapist or doctor and tell them of the trauma history and not remembering it. They will then better be able to sort out what's going on.
 
I also went through an attack by a person that I could identify as my attacker, yet when it was time to go to court, I just could not get myself to return for the full trial because the defense lawyers for my attacker raked me over the coals so badly & re-victimized me as my attacker sat there & stared past me with a smirk in his face. There were other witnesses who testified to the attack & eventually (when I was a no show & he used all his money up on the attorney), he changed his plea to guilty & served 8 years for altering my life.

Everyday since May 9th, 2001, I think of my attacker & my forever altered body & brain. I wish I could forget & I sometimes wish I could get angry & go find the SOB & beat him up & break his bones or put him in a state of disrepair that would render him helpless & drooling in a wheelchair. But for some reason, I no longer have that anger & can see where this seemingly "senseless" act of violence served a purpose & allowed me to eventually have a much more mellow life with a monthly disability check, instead of endless job searches & standing in unemployment lines.

I recently took an in-depth test for ADD & it turns out I may have been living with it all of my life & no one caught it because I got by in life & didn't see a need to look into my may problems with learning certain things in school or as an adult. I mostly did odd jobs & moved around a lot until I got married, started a business, had a child & got divorced...then I had to re-enter society & went right back to drinking & using drugs in order to stay up & drink more & then go to work in the construction industry who didn't care (in those days) if we showed up drunk or not!

There is a lot more & I won't go on with my life experiences, but the point I want to convey is that anyone who suffers from a life changing event that includes violence upon their person, would be wise to get some type of counseling with an agency that specializes in PTSD & trauma. I know that if I had gone to more counseling, that I could have spared myself some grief & most of all, spared my kid from having to deal with an unstable mother.

So, whatever you do...I think you should always do it for yourself & to be a better person in this world. I personally do not feel that PTSD ever leaves a person, but a person can learn to leave PTSD in an envelope that can later be opened at a time of their choosing. Once opened, it is difficult to stuff back into the envelope without organizational skills. I am hoping that getting some help with my ADD brain will help me to further organize & reorganize my brain so I can once again do some of the things I once was capable of doing before I was beaten! The work history from the SSA is proof that I am not hallucinating about my past. I have had to piece things together like a puzzle that was thrown off of a cliff. My search seems endless. That's okay, because at least it keeps me busy!

So, I hope something I have said & shared gives you or someone else a glimmer of hope in the time of dark despair that PTSD can throw "us" into without prior notification! Knowledge is power. Learn all you can. Try everything until something feels "right" for you.
 
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