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Relationship PTSD - The Impact On Relationships Continued

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Hello,

I am new here as well and I just started reading the carer part of the forum.

My husband is VERY understanding/supportive and VERY loving, I just get afraid of "ruining" the relationship due to the PTSD. I have been trying to read alot to get new information and to recognize the problems, as well as starting therapy. He tells me it will be fine, but is there anything I can do when I get into an episode? So that that way I don't take it out on him?

I also have problems with intimacy due to the abuse but he says he knows its not the most important thing. I just want to know if there is anything I can do (both for the intimacy and a way to explain to my husband what's going on when I'm in an empisode). I wake him up almost every night due to nightmares.

Thank you
 
Everyone is a bit different ! Keep that in Mind.

Hi,

It's been a long while since I have sent a post in.. I read sometimes as an "outsider" and sometimes just try to keep up.

As a carer of someone that has finally been diagnosed with "Chronic PTSD" from the military (Ranger). After fighting for literally two years, we finally got him his 100% disability. He gets meds, counseling, etc. He feels better now for a variety of reasons: he gets 100% medical, dental, kids get school funds, as his spouse I get medical benefits, etc, so those things are a huge relief for him. :occasion:
He hasn't had a "major episode" since he's been getting meds & counselling.
That is not to say issues haven't been out there...he still gets angry at times, he still gets depressed at times, he still has the nightmares, flashbacks, triggers, etc. So far they are now mostly managable.:thumbs-up

Since every person is different both as a sufferer & a care giver, it is a very difficult thing in saying what will help each of us.
Obviously it goes with out saying, but COMMUNICATIONS is simply the MOST important single thing to have.

I have been finding that the "unknown triggers" are the hardest to deal with for us. Especially when he didn't know it was a trigger for him.
Once it is realized then it is dealt with.

Our next hurdle is with Social Security. We have been going rounds with them for over 1 1/2 yrs.. Hopefully something will be decided by the end of this month. With any luck & he gets it, if there is enough $ maybe we can do the move we have wanted for the last 4 yrs. Guess it's a wait n see situation.:crazy:

For all of you out there... hang in there..both the sufferers & the care givers..time sometimes does help ...

for all of you out there I hope you had a good & healthy Thanksgiving & wish you the very best through out the holiday season.
Many hugs to you all...
:Hug_emoticon:

Donna & Ranger
 
This really hit home to me.

Six years ago I met a man that was on his way to Iraq. We have been friends this whole past six years, keeping in constant touch. He spent two years in Iraq and another two years in Afghanistan. We walked side by side through the whole experience or quite a lot of it.

He came home on leave, this past April, and our relationship just grew and flourished. He lives in one state and myself in another. We talked everyday by messenger or on the phone and we decided it was time to meet - he came to spend Thanksgiving with me and that is when my world kind of like fell apart, I guess.

The minute he walked in the door, I could see it. So eratic; so lost...
During the past six months, we became very very close and shared so much...fell in love with one another, actually...

We made plans to meet and as soon as we met and fell in love with one another, then he told me he was married to a 70 year old woman (he is 41) and that he married her after knowing her for two weeks because he had nobody else in his life at the time (?) and wanted someone to benefit from all that he was doing and that although he loves me, he is committed to his marriage. Just like that...after six years...He told me he married her to help her pay off the house she got in her divorce. He apologized, with tears in his eyes for marrying the wrong woman but now that he is married to her, he has to stay committed to it.

He has never been out of sorts with me but has confessed being that way with his "wife" and how lucky I am to not be her...to just take "all the good parts" and thank God I don't have to deal with the other side. He said she deals with it on a daily basis.

Since he has been home, he spent the first 5 months being alone..
he wanders about, aimlessly, kind of like the way I have, since he left Thanksgiving morning, to go home to his wife. The wife that has never really been there for him, before.....He will start to say something and forget what he was saying.

Having had a brother who was a 2-tour Viet Nam vet, I could tell that my friend was suffering and I conciously made the choice to help him as much as I possibly could, full well knowing that it could have implications on me as well. And it has. I have been absolutely celibate and single the whole past six years. It was an immense decision for me to open my life and my heart to him. He full well knew how important this was to both of us.

Yes, he left Thanksgiving morning to fly back to his wife - mind you, all the while telling me he truly loved me but there can never be anything more between us because of her. He tells me we need to stop communicating so much but yet he is the first one every morning to somehow let me know he loves me or to call me on the phone, yes, even with his wife nearby.

He tells me that I have helped him and his wife. While I am left here, "letting go" without really wanting to. I just spent the past six years being celibate and single and am now left dealing with emotions that have completely overtaken me; emotions I have never felt before in my life.
I find myself not wanting to go on, somehow. Hugging his pillow and constantly balling my eyes out. I keep looking for that message light on my computer - it just isn't there the way it used to be.

True, you can't chase after someone. I don't contact him...it is always him contacting me and telling me to let go but no-don't....one time it is "let go" the next "don't ever let go"... He tells me that he is dedicated to his wife and marriage, yet, in the same breath, tells me he loves me so much and that he always will....for me to never let go and how I have filled a spot in his life...

We have made a promise to one another to always be friends. But, I am just devistated and I don't know how to pull myself out of this deep well of sorrow. We have been close for six years and suddenly things have changed.

He is returning to Afghanistan after the first of the year, because he said that is "his job"; "what he does for a living"; "I need to pay off her home, like I promised her I would..." he doesn't need to go back, not in his condition and I so worry for his safety.

I tried to persuade him into taking his educational benefits and going to college instead of going back and he said that "just isn't me" -

It's easy to say: "if someone doesn't love you, don't chase..." but what if someone does love you? What if you know, without any doubt, that person truly loves you but is making bad choices? What do you do then? There isn't anything a person can do except "let go" and I can't; I won't; he tells me to never let go - tells me that he will never let go....that he needs me here in his life but yet, sometimes in the same breath, will tell me: "I will stop talking to you, if you want me to...if it is easier for you"

When together, we have the perfect relationship; he is always kind, considerate, loving - tells me he is not that way with his wife, at all. That she is not as affectionate as I am - that he sleeps so well in my arms, better than he ever has, in fact - yet he rebukes our relationship...this just is insane.

Since he left Thanksgiving morning, I have this wall of emotion that washes over me so completely and totally and suddenly I am plunged into the deepest sense of despair. I so innocently, openly, completely, and, totally gave him my heart and my life and I know he has issues and will always care for him and love him, no matter what he gets himself into.

How can our country send these people back to war? Even if they keep volunteering to return - doesn't the government have a responsibility to make sure they are not injured or cause injury to others? I am afraid he wants to go back to committ suicide because he is so trapped in the whirlwind of PTSD. He tells me "war is less stressful..." he has had a very difficult time of adjusting since he has been home and I have tried to keep his feet on the ground as best as I could -

I just don't know what to do anymore. I have had the last five days off in a row - and it's a good thing because I have not been in any sort of "functioning" mode. I have never experienced any emotion quite like this one!

It's not necessarily "suicidal" but it sure is a deep and dense sense of hopelessness and confusion, the deepest sense of loss I have ever experienced. Here I am, in my apartment, writing this, smelling his scent, still; sleeping in the same bed where we made love, while he is at home, sleeping with his wife but will get me a message in the morning, to say "I love you"....

oh yes, I could just cut him off; I could do that I suppose but I am an integral part of his world right now as he refuses to get help. So, I rationalize with myself: "Yes, you do love him enough to get through this....yes, you are strong enough to handle this...." I am not so sure I am anymore. I have never been so devistated. Maybe I would do him a favor? By cutting him off? But I don't think so - how could I ever live with that? Not after all this time.

I told him: "The only shame in getting help is not asking for it..." But he doesn't want to ruin his redeployment, in anyway.

So, what? I try to love and care for someone with PTSD and suddenly, "I" acquire it? I just don't know what to do anymore and thought that maybe reaching out was one way of finding a little solace....reaching out to minds and people who kind of understand.

It is so difficult for me to explain this situation. Since last April, up until now, he and I talked all the time....the line of communication was open 24/7 - since he left, we hardly communicate anymore - he even told me he made a mistake marrying his wife, when it should have been me. Being the truly honorable man he is, he is committed to his relationship even though I know he loves me. Doesn't want to hurt her. Imagine that?

It's so hard now that the phone doesn't ring anymore; that I don't see the "message light" on my computer - as frequently. Maybe I did a good job of helping him put his feet on the ground, (which I doubt) but I have been blown off my feet with a bazooka and I don't know how to get the proper frame of mind to forge ahead. I feel like I have died inside over all this and finding another man in my life, just won't do; that is not an option. Not after all of this. I made a concious decision to love him, right or wrong, through all the good and the bad and just "hope" that someday he will find his way to unravel all the roadblocks between us and find his way back.

I don't bother him - he is the one who keeps in touch with me. His concious will start bothering him or he will have a dream about us and he will call to see if I am alright....to tell me he loves me; or I am the perfect woman - loving him right or wrong; to tell me he wished I were his wife....there is no doubt in my mind or in my heart, this man loves me. That is what is so difficult about all of this.

Since he left Thanksgiving morning, I have only been able to muster the strength to hug his pillow and literally ball my eyes out. No appetite - no desire to function in anyway whatsoever. Oh sure, I suppose I could get some counseling - but it won't change anything-not really; will it?

He goes to the VA Hospital, all the time, at my insistance - is on no medications; they do nothing for him. Shouldn't they be able to see his condition or maybe they do and just don't care? It is so very evident.

I don't care about anything else at this point but saving his life. All the rest is inconsequential to me. If I could lay down my life to keep him from going, I would. I sware I would. It's just too bad his wife doesn't feel the same way and will let the house fall into foreclosure ....instead of pushing him back there to earn a living. He is incapable of earning a living with the way his demeanor currently is, in our society. The man can barely function.

So, there - that's pretty much my story; my introduction...
anyone have any suggestions for finding myself again? For finding the strength I had before I let this soldier into my life and my world? For helping him a little more? Maybe there is something I can do now to turn this all around for him....any suggestions?

I am just at a loss anymore but I know that message will come again this morning, telling me "I love you"...this is so hard on me....

Thanks for reading and for listening.
Love to you all who are experiencing the same kinds of things.

Please pray for him and for all our service members.
I love him so very much.

I am sure there are a lot of you out there that can help me find some strength, encouragement and I sure could use it right now.
 
This is at the heart of my dilemma, I believe. My SO and I have been much like you and yours, Cowgirl. Until 2 weeks ago. I can trace a very clear line to his meds being changed a month ago, and several erratically different behaviors, moods, voiced thought processes. He says he can't handle relationship right now, and I want to respect that, and my plan is to leave on January 2. But what do you do when there is a clear cause and such drastic change? I am really conflicted.
 
It can be so hard, though.

I am one of those people who met someone already sufferning from PTSD, and fell in love. it was great, we had fun, he fell in love with me, we moved in, it was absolutely wonderful. Then the "real" him came out. Mood swings, anger, solitude, pushing me away. it was terrible. I don't know why I say was, we are still together, but I am so confused. It's a rollercoaster ride most of the time. It can be so hard. One day he want to be with me and never leave my side, and the next he seems like he can't stand me. He is going to counseling, but only once a week and I'm not sure it is oding anything. I'm so tired of crying, and wondering which person I am going to wake up next to: the guy I met and fell in love with, or the guy who can't control his emotions and feelings. I'm deeply in love with him, but am I hoping for too much by expecting his PTSD to get better? I think I would be kidding myself if i expected him to be "normal", but that's waht I want. Am I selfish to want a normal relationship? I'm so torn. Please, any advice helps!
 
Kor,

I am a sufferer from PTSD. My hubby too met me when only some of my symptoms are out and now they are full blown. He still stays by my side (this is his choice) even when I can isolate and things like that. I won't ever understand logically why he does but he does.

Now, if your relationship is turning harmful to you then you shouldn't be in it. While he may suffer PTSD, you also have to do what's right for you.

I know in our relationship we have to use tremendous amounts of communication when i'm stable and create tools for when i'm non stable to help me. So for instance, if i'm having auditory flashbacks, we discussed that when that happens, he can hold me close and use his voice to reissure me i'm safe.

Maybe you can ask him to write a letter of what he is feeling when he is unstable. I don't think he doesn't love you but isolation and pushing is a symptom of PTSD. We get scared of getting hurt or we reject ourselves and are torn up about not being the person we want to be.

So i think that when he's stable if he is saying that he loves you, he means it. So if you really want this to work, it is going to be hard and (i don't know how long it has been) but its going to take a lot of time.

Something that really helped me was having my hubby (fiancee) go in to therapy with me. That way he could understand more of the "why's" i'm doing something and learn some tools that could assist me in becoming more "normal".

I hope this helps and again, if you feel the relationship is only to hurt you not make your life better, than you need to get out so i'm sorry if i am sounding like "oh your a bad person for not staying with hiim", because your not :) Just offereing a little advice to hopefully help.

Kunoichi
 
Disappointed

I'm new to this site and have been reading the carers comments. My husband of 27 years fell apart 18 months ago. We were each others best mate. Our relationship was a true partnership with each one's skills complementing the others. It was never abusive. We raised 5 sons, including triplets by working together as a team. He was diagnosed with PTSD and he no longer works. I have mourned the loss of our planned future now the kids are grown. He is slowly learning how stress affects him. At one stage I would often feel like I was dealing with a 10 year old. He only responded in a positive manner when I acted like his mother! Now he has progressed into an argumentative teenager. Even our boys notice. At times he can be verbally abusive now. How can a permanent decision about our future together be made whilst he is trying to deal with this disease. I understand that eventually there may come a time when he no longer improves. Then I will need to assess the situation from my long term prospective. I know the man I love is in there, I get glimpses every so often.
I have found the angry discussion regarding carers staying in abusive relationships very upsetting, probably because I know I may have to make a difficult decision in the future. However, the main thing I have learnt about PTSD is that every situation is different. Every sufferer is different. Every cause is different, no two are exactly the same. Therefore, widely generalising comments about carers &/or sufferers doesn't help either. Perhaps Rachel could return to the sufferers forum and let the carers, 'care' for each other.
 
Wow

You are right but I would like to add one thing that I have learned through my relationship/non-relationship with a sufferer.

After a wonderful start, things changed, slowly at first, but then like you stated I wound up being abused almost daily. Perhaps it was my self doubt which made me believe that I was worthless, ugly and hateful (I heard it so often). I let my personal friends slip away and became isolated myself and depressed. The yo-yo syndrome!! But your comments have helped reinforce the "moving on" that I am now trying to do.

Sure its painful stepping away from someone I once loved and cherished.I ended up feeling that I was the failure that I being a "well person" should have been able to help more and be more forgiving. Maybe that was the trap I created, I learn more and more each day.

:clap:
 
I have currently been "demoted" for lack of a better word, to friend, by my boyfriend. He has just come out of a prolonged shut out for the 3rd time in 11 months, each time he has been gone at least 5 weeks with the longest being 10 weeks. Told me just needs me to be his friend and can't do a relationship right now and doesn't know if he ever will be able to. As much as it hurt to hear him say that, i kinda found it to be a bit of a break through for him, he was actually able to be honest with himself and me about where he is. He wants nothing more than to be with me and he loves me deeply but his fears of hurting me are just too great. he doesn't doubt I am strong enough to handle whatever he throws at me but more that he isnt strong enough to handle hurting me time and time again. He was married and has 3 children. His wife died of cancer. He says he could see the damage his condition did to her, that he is toxic, that she didnt fight the cancer because she wanted to escape him. He doesnt want me to ever feel that way. I try to point out to him the chnages he had made over the past year. he often tells me that he could never speak to her the way he speaks to me, he is so open with me about it all and in a lot of ways, it makes it easier for me to deal with having that understanding. He has put himself in a position of isolation, taking a job in the mines, he only comes home every 5 weeks... his children are living with their grandmother because he thinks he is no good for them. He has been misdiagnosed so many times over the years and been given meds that didnt work, that I think he honestly believes things cant get better. I know he wants to get better, I just don't think he knows where to start.

He knows I love him warts and all and until my heart decides otherwise, I will always be waiting for him... Some times I wonder though if him knowing that just adds to the pressure on him but at the same time, i always promised him I would be honest with how I felt about things.

Bah! I need an instruction manual!

I dont even know If I've made sense... I tend to ramble and go off topic...
 
I am a little bit excited this morning.

I got a text from my BF last night which Im sure most other girlfriends would cry over, but this one made me smile. He said "I'm not feeling so good, I'm gonna run and hide again"

This is the first time he has actually told me he needs space before he shuts down! He also took the time to tell me it wasn't my fault and not to blame myself.

Ok, small victory, but you know, I haven't cried and I'm not worried.
 
that is great Cin

regardless he is communicating and that is a great!

follow your heart and take care of you to
 
On the attack

When my husband goes on the attack verbally, I simply state that he has really hurt my feelings or whatever, then I walk away. I also tell him I love him still whenever I feel the urge, I just say it in a way that doesn't require a response. What I can't seem to figure out are his triggers. He's home all the time because the tumor resection disabled him permanently. He has speech and understanding deficiencies and cannot read fluently. Imagine going through life without speaking nouns. I never just let him get away with attacking, but if I attack back I'm letting his disease control me. Easier said than done all of it.
 
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