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Sufferer Serious Illness, Persistent Hate Crime>complex Ptsd

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Laura 2

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Hi all

I've been reading the forum for a few days and I'm impressed with the quality of discussions and knowledge here - as well as your kindness.

I developed what is now Complex PTSD as a result of terrifying persistent crime whilst recovering from a serious illness (i.e. what is called disability hate crime here in the UK).

That sounds so simple but, as I look back, the real cause of the PTSD was that no one took it seriously and I was basically left to try and deal with all the horrors alone. I know I could have recovered with just a reasonable amount of help and support.

Before the serious illness and unstopped crime, I was a very functional, highly resilient lone parent but over the last 10 years my life has been destroyed bit by bit - it's like being the epicentre of a slow-mo train wreck...I can see it happening but, because of the extreme PTSD effects, I can't do anything to stop it.

It's not for the want of trying though. Nowadays, every single day is a battle to get through and it's exhausting in itself. (Reading some of the discussions here about whether or not people really have PTSD and the DSM5 criteria, I should say that the crime involved persistent and active psychological terrorism and £thousands in physical damage to my property over many years, de facto imprisonment because of constant fears of being attacked and my life was daily in jeopardy to some degree or other).

I am very scared of everyone now (except one amazing friend) and have zero trust in any of our 'services'. Although there are a lot of staff and police who do want to to the right thing, there are also many who just couldn't care less and who are incredibly callous. The abuse I've experienced from so many is shocking in itself. I think this is what's called 'secondary victimisation'. (I even had to take one therapist to court because of her appalling, drunken abuse, which was proven and I won the case, though not before the NHS denied it and tried to cover it up. One result is that, by making a valid complaint and winning a court case against against an NHS practitioner, you're more or less blackballed as a patient: I don't have a GP, for example, now).

In most ways, it seems like I'm existing in an isolated parallel world that runs alongside the world of the mass of people who are untouched by the toxic combination of serious illness and hate crime. Fortunately for them, they don't have to experience these services - and just cannot believe it when you tell them about the negligence and even abuse that their taxes pay for. I don't know, but is this a reason for why services are so bad? These people who run the services and the fortunate people just lack understanding and empathy?

To cut a long and horrifying history short, I also have some questions about quality of help/therapy for PTSD sufferers, especially in the UK. Is 12 weeks, once a year, long enough? Should there be specific services for PTSD sufferers instead of referrals to general counsellors who may or may not have any knowledge of PTSD? (One qualified and certificated counsellor I met with - and obviously quickly rejected - had not even heard of PTSD!!)

Also, my experience is that as a target of persistent crime and a casualty of medical negligence and abuse one is perversely blamed and shunned. Why? Why do people who think of themselves as decent, caring people in reality generally treat disadvantaged and poorly people with such contempt? That leads on to a question about whether you think your PTSD would not have developed if you'd been helped sooner or treated better when the triggering event first happened?

Perhaps you'd like to help me think about these questions if I start threads about them...?

Meanwhile, thank you all for being here. It's vile to know that so many people are similarly struggling though.

best wishes
Laura
 
Thank you for your response, Chase... I love the doggie - he looks very wise!

I hadn't heard the 'No Health Service' substitute for National HS. Very sadly, it seems like the 'No' is all too common for many people here. In the last 15yrs I've personally seen such a deterioration. I'm finding that you cannot get any decent treatment for e.g. mental health issues unless you have psychosis, schizophrenia, serious bi-polar disorder, or are a substance abuser or criminal.

While I certainly agree that these people do need help, I believe it's very short-sighted not to treat the rest of us, most of whom actually work and pay through heavy taxes for the NHS: without such support/treatment, a fair number will become unemployed because of the untreated MH issues and there will be less money for services = the decline that we're experiencing now??

In my region, nearly 20% of the population (according to the regional MH service) are, like me, in the 'rest of us' category and have been referred for treatment which we may or may not get. And that's only the people who have identified that they need help, the real number of people suffering MH difficulties is likely to be quite a lot higher.

Sorry, didn't mean to write an essay! It's just that the NHS was a brilliant institution and now it's become so dysfunctional and depleted. It's very sad. (And sad that the US, where I have lots of relatives, has imported a very similar model of healthcare provision).
 
I too am in the 'rest of us' category.

Sadly CPTSD seems to fall into that category so easily. I was assessed for NHS treatment and as I was on a 'good day' the senior psychiatrist decided without even seeing my records that I was safe to be discharged.

The UK is very backward when it comes to MH issues in the community.

All I can say realy is thank goodness for this forum and the people on here.

We should overthrow the NHS. Doubt we could do any worse than them. :-)

Laurie
 
Thank you, love my dog! I rescued her from the desert a few summers ago - poor baby has canine PTSD but she's getting better under the love of my family. I wish I could bring her over but I'm not such a great ESH (emotional support human).

I am horrible about making up fitting meanings for things like this. I actually like the idea of the ACA - the insurance thing we had going on wasn't working. Loads of people didn't qualify and the actual costs of medical care in the States is astronomical. I am all in favor of universal health care and treating people seriously before they become disabled from what ever it is life has thrown at them. That makes me a bleeding heart liberal, I prefer the stance that prevention is cheaper than the cure - no matter if it is mental or physical. More than one desperate person in America has committed crimes in order to get thrown in prison just to receive care. That is so sad. :(
 
The change in US healthcare isn't to adopt a program just like the NHS. I'm not sure if this opinion has been influenced by family who hates our new "Obamacare", but overall it is a good thing that has kinks to be worked out at present, and sadly these kinks are being used as proof of failure rather than expected, as nothing ever rolls out perfectly!
 
Welcome to the forums, Laura. My traumas were also made worse by being ignored, rejected, and ultimately further hurt by the system which is supposed to help, though I'm in the US. I'm sorry you've experienced the same. While I support the ACA, I'm very glad I live in a country where I have the choice to go find a doctor completely unaffiliated with those who hurt me.
 
Sadly CPTSD seems to fall into that category so easily. I was assessed for NHS treatment and as I was on a 'good day' the senior psychiatrist decided without even seeing my records that I was safe to be discharged.

Hey Laurie - thanks for your thoughts. It's affirming - though really really horrid - to hear that other people have similar experiences.

I'd like to know what any senior psychiatrist actually understands about PTSD and CPTSD.... it seems to me that a lot of the research and certainly the diagnostic criteria are written from a point of view of what the clinician thinks s/he sees rather than the actual functional and disabling effects.

OK, there are no easy/cheap tests for PTSD like there are for e.g. heart disease but diagnosis of many physical diseases is based solely on patient reportage. Not so with psychological disorders. It appears that somehow, almost automatically, one is more or less disbelieved...or, more rarely, if one is believed then there is little or no treatment.

Like you, I am 100% sure that patients could do a better job of running the NHS. (In my former life, my work gave me lots of experience of service improvement, which is basically how I know for sure that things could be a lot better.)
 
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Thank you, love my dog! I rescued her from the desert a few summers ago - poor baby has canine PTSD but she's getting better under the love of my family. I wish I could bring her over but I'm not such a great ESH (emotional support human).

Oh, poor doggie...I'm sure she's with the best people now though. I can't bear to ask how she developed PTSD, the things that humans do to dogs thoroughly knocks me out.

From what I know about the ACA it's a great idea, but like so many other good ideas the translation to practice seems to be fraught with problems.

Like you, I think prevention always has to be better than cure. Somehow that concept doesn't translate to practice either. Yes, I've heard about people committing crimes simply to get the treatment they need. It happens to some extent here too. It's so sad.

Maybe it's the PTSD talking but since I've been dragged into the mess of public services I've realised that human society is not as civilised as we like to kid ourselves; in some cases it's even downright barbaric. Hrrmph.
 
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I'm not sure if this opinion has been influenced by family who hates our new "Obamacare", but overall it is a good thing that has kinks to be worked out at present, and sadly these kinks are being used as proof of failure rather than expected, as nothing ever rolls out perfectly!

Yes, I think it's a good thing, though from much of what I've discovered there may be some nasty pitfalls. (My family members are either under VA care or rich enough not to be affected, fortunately).
 
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Welcome to the forums, Laura. I'm very glad I live in a country where I have the choice to go find a doctor completely unaffiliated with those who hurt me.


Thanks Caterpillar.
Being made to feel like a pariah is so damaging. I can't get my head round why people who do think of themselves as decent and compassionate turn to rejecting when faced with the actual reality of pain and suffering. I'm sad for you and everyone who has to go through this. It happens so much in the UK - trouble is that by the time you're crushed by it you have no strength to complain which is what's needed to make things change IMHO.

Have to say I so envy your freedom to choose a completely independent doctor. Here they just all close ranks against patients who have valid grievances no matter if they know that their colleagues have been negligent etc.
 
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I'm sorry you went through that. Some folks who ought to be ashamed of themselves have none. I too have some people in my life who seem to think that mental illness is some joke that people should just get over. Sometimes I wish they would be stricken with the curse so they can see just how easy it is to live like that. But I think you find many friends here who do understand what it's like, and will be here for you.

And boy is that a cute dog. =)
 
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