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Sex With Therapist

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Are you married? Are you bored? Are you jealous of him, or his wife?
 
I wouldn't judge a trauma therapist badly because they make you feel safe and supported. That's an essential part of he first phase of trauma therapy and is very critical to establish a positive working therapeutic relationship before doing trauma work because it will be like walking through the fires of hell itself at times, and they will challenge the client, and without that history of a good positive safe connection with the therapist, most quit or the therapy deconstructs. So I'd be very careful about walking away simply because one feels "coddled" in the first few sessions.
I cant believe I'm a grown ass woman crying over a therapist when I have a healthy loving supportive network. I am so heartbroken over this. I had never shared any of this with anyone and I purged my soul to this person. I I told him things so graphic I was afraid it would kill him just hearing it. I feel both betrayed and rejected by him for some reason.
I would be more worried if you walked away from this therapist without any emotions at all. You poured out your heart to him.

You really do put some awfully harsh expectations on yourself if you really think that even as a grown woman you should not feel deeply about what is happening.
I actually went to a new therapist today to discuss what has been going on and he confirmed that my psychologist is terribly ill informed at best. God, a whole year I did this. Most of the time 2x week. I was spinning my wheels trying to get support from him when nearly every interaction was so triggering that I could hardly see straight on
It is very concerning how dissociated you have been in the sessions without any solid plan to address it. Most trained trauma therapists can easily pick up on when a client is dissociating even if the client doesn't realize it. you need a therapist with the right skill set to work through this transference and your ptsd symptoms and trauma history.

Your therapist is not only out of his depth sexually but also therapeutically. He simply doesn't have the experience or tools in treating trauma if he has been missing how much you are checking out and allowing it to go on and in without working on skill development so you and him can bring you out of it, long before you are seeking sex to take back your power.

No therapist should be engaging in talking about sex with a client when they are dissociated and vulnerable to exploitation and/or not understanding the conversation correctly. (But I believe you did understand him well.)

That kind of transference work should be done when grounded and present (or if doing the work with a specific "part" but that doesn't seem to be applicable in your case.)

He not only clearly has personal issues, he's completely out of his depth in treating trauma.

If you go back to him, you can expect more of the same completely clueless handing of traumatic transference and other trauma symptoms.

It's not like he is the only person you can work out these issues with. It's not the first time it has come up as you described delaying therapy because you were worried about having sec with them. Your transference is something you will indeed take with you and is something that will leave you and non-trauma trained therapists confused in the future in whatever new way it comes up.

You need someone who is experienced and trained in treating trauma and feels confident and can give a good plan and description as to how they work through transference with a client. You haven't described anything about this therapist that makes me believe he is able to handle these complex issues.
I don't myself have PTSD, no. I'm coming to this from the opposite end of the table, plus am in a relationship with PTSD sufferer. So, I'm by no means an expert, just my humble professional opinion here.
Professional? Let's review that professional qualification
Just to come all out, I am a psychiatrist, albeit NOT specialized in trauma treatment. I do, however, encounter patients who could be diagnosed with PTSD (symptomatic), yet whose treatment specifically entails an avoidance of trauma work. It just would not do them any good. The reasons for such would take too long to hash out here, but just as with any disorder, physical or mental, PTSD treatment cannot be painted with one brush.
You don't have PTSD so you have never done effective trauma therapy yourself, and you haven't been trained in it either. Most psychiatrist go through exactly zero to slim number of classes in how to do therapy, and pretty much nothing about trauma or traumatic transference. You are as about qualified as most of the posters here.

I had well meaning psychiatrists and general psychdynamic therapists nearly destroy me because they thought they understood PTSD and insight alone would cure me. Insight alone left me sucidial and extremely symptomatic, especially when it came to working out transference and other core issues that came up in the therapy room. They were absolutely wrong. Thankfully one of the therapists dragged me to a trauma trained therapist and my recovery was jumpstarted by leaps and bounds. Hardest thing I have ever done, and the best.

Trauma therapy, especially when it comes to working through trauma related transference, relies on a lot of corrective emotional experiences and habitual learning and exposure work (in various ways) and thought retraining and undoing trauma bonding and etc...
. I probably need that psychiatrist that's posting to medicate me as I'm now officially nuts wanting to flog my therapist. I'll start a new thread asking if it's normal to want to tie up and flog your T. LOL
There is nothing nuts about you and your relentless self judgement and critique of yourself is downright painful to read. My trained trauma therapist would respond by saying you are verbally perpetrating against yourself by being so very harsh. He would suggest you try a different way of treating yourself, like challenging your cognitive distortions that you have about yourself (and most trauma survivors struggle with), or even simply challenging these super negative thoughts with a neutral one.

Would you judge someone else in your shoes so harshly? Because there are others who have thought and felt many of the things you have, and they were not nuts either. I'm guessing you know that and wouldn't judge them... so don't be a hypocrite and hold yourself to a different standard.
This, this is GREAT! Some call it a "lightbulb moment", I call it self awareness. So that is AWESOME! Go you!
you are discovering a lot of great insights! I am impressed with your consistent process to sort out these issues - ones you have been running from facing for while. You have a ton of things to be proud about.

Insight is good, BUT insight alone doesn't always lead to change when it comes to PTSD. Don't get frustrated or hopeless if you return to old patterns. If insight alone worked, the recovery rates would be even higher and a lot shorter. Just look at how many "I know I should trust my therapist but..." posts there are...

You are on the right path, keep working at sorting this out and keep considering if this therapist really has the right tool set to help you sort through these issues that have been impacting you for so long.
 
Oh my psychodynamic t did that to me too to an extent. Except I was in denial about my trauma and only mentioned very l...

This is all very interesting and relatable. For a long time I had a deep feeling that my therapist thought my trauma was my fault so his psychodymanic technique definitely kept the shame alive for me.
I agree this dominant shift in my intrusive fantasies for him is not a breakthrough, it's more of the same, but at least now I feel more empowered. I am disgusted that I was so vulnerable to him all this time. I agree I have boundary issues in therapy but I really don't outside of there. Therapy is very hard for me because my life is utterly perfect except for this. There is nothing to work on except therapy itself. I have a lot of control and good relationships and resources. But I am a hysterical pathetic mess in therapy. I would leave for good but I have a serious physical injury that wakes up PTSD occasionally so I need an outlet for this insanity or else this PTSD will destroy my beautiful life. For me the PTSD is SEVERE when it comes on. Like I want to set myself on fire and jump off a bridge. So leaving therapy is terrifying, hence my attachment this guy.

My husband and friends hardly know I see a therapist. They would never say I had boundary issues or any issues really, except maybe I'm too controlled. I'm essentially two completely separate people it seems.

I actually got ahold of Bessel Van Dr Kolk who has written a lot of books about trauma. His sessions are expensive but I think I'm going to see him a few times.

I appreciate the feedback. So many interesting perspectives.
 
Are you married? Are you bored? Are you jealous of him, or his wife?
Yes! Great husband. No I'm one of those extremely busy type A people. Never bored. Not jealous at all. That emotion never enters my mind even when it probably should.
 
But it could destroy his career, jeopardize his marriage, end yours. Do you feel you don't get attention in your marriage? How's your sex life? Do you want out of your marriage?
 
Erotic transference and the issues with control and power that the OP is sorting out usually have very little to do with the strength of a marriage or how well the marriage relationship is going or the quality/quantity of sex with one's spouse.

It's all about the past trauma and traumatic relationships.

It can't be solved simply by having a good marriage, and I take the OP at her word that things are going well there.
 
I wouldn't judge a trauma therapist badly because they make you feel safe and supported. That's an essential part of he fi...
We must have been writing at the same time. Thank you for this. Yes, normal adult me is a bit harsh with my younger traumatized part. I go through feelings of hating her for trying to ruin my beautiful life. I suppose I need to be more accepting of this damaged younger part of me. Exiling her or shaming her doesn't make this go away, does it...

You are so right that my therapist is trying to fix me via insight and it's not working. He doesn't have any other tool to use. I need to feel the care and concern and I need to feel heard. I've told him this so many times but he says he does have care and concern and my problem is I can't conceptualize that's true. Im realizing that's not true because the new therapist I talked to was SO supportive I instantly cried. Such a foreign feeling.
 
But it could destroy his career, jeopardize his marriage, end yours. Do you feel you don't get attention in your marria...
I oddly have a very good sex life and a high sex drive. I would never ever tell on my T if we slept together so in my mind I wouldn't let it hurt his career. But yes I feel an obligation to his wife. She was the biggest barrier. If he had ever suggested they were on the rocks I would have definitely come on to him. Regarding my husband, when I was seriously contemplating sleeping with my T I was certain this would just be part of therapy and have nothing to do with cheating. I have never cheated on anyone and the concept of sleeping with my therapist seemed therapeutic... I am understanding how insane this is now. It took me a week of suffering and 100 posts here to get it but I do get it now.
 
Yes I just asked because I have a very rich and powerful relative that sleeps with other peoples spouses because its all she doesnt have. A trauma based psycholgist friend told me once people often do it to end their marriage accidentally.
 
Yes I just asked because I have a very rich and powerful relative that sleeps with other peoples spouses because its all s...
I understand that, but I'd be suicidal if I wrecked a long marriage like his. I picked a therapist with a 30 year marriage just because I knew that would stop me.
 
But it could destroy his career, jeopardize his marriage, end yours. Do you feel you don't get attention in your marriage? How's your sex life? Do you want out of your marriage?

Have you been assaulted, abused, sexually assaulted, witnessed or been a party to life threatening violence & have PTSD? Have severe issues with touch, trust, boundaries, connecting to others, or personal space? Does your anxiety spike and lead you to want to run, lash out, freeze, or beg heir forgiveness?

Normal Life Issues vs PTSD Life Issues :coffee:
 
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