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My fear is that my parents were so nice to them that they won't believe me.
That's an understandable fear. Whether they believe you or not is more about them, and their ability to face the truth than it is about whether or not you're believable. You're totally believable! I imagine they were shocked to learn how wrong they had been about G. For a lot of people, that would show them how possible it is to be horribly wrong and how "nice" truly "good" predators can appear to be on the surface. Which should make it easier for them to believe you. Even though that truth will be a difficult one. Just want you to know I hope this goes well and you can reconnect with your friend and her family.
 
She replied, after the weekend, and I assume she needed to think it over, and maybe talk to her husband.

I'm a bit disappointed in the response, in that it could be summed at "I can tell you're in pain. I care. I suggest constant prayer and Bible reading. God is the answer."

Thing is, I know she was raised to talk the holy roller stuff, but deep down, she is capable of more than that. Last time we met, she was leaving the Salvation Army because she saw no future in it as a woman, and claimed the organization doesn't allow married women to be higher up than their husbands. She was livid about how the organization/religion (C of E?) doesn't recognize women more.

It seems that she felt she had to say something "nice", but I was hoping for more validation or connection. I felt kind of brushed off, or that she just doesn't have other thoughts or coping skills when it comes to life.

I guess it's possible that she REALLY BELIEVES that prayer and bible reading can help deal with any problem.

My perspective is that such activities keep one's brain and heart INSULATED from reality and that it's the same as thinking on a railroad track, in only one direction. When I used to do that, I couldn't connect to myself. Christianity is so abstract that it led me to the middle of nowhere, or away from myself and reality.

Now, I see religion as a form of dissociation or detachment, like a drug. On that narrow track, it's hard to "feel" much.

I'm sure I could offend here, so I do apologize, I don't mean to judge if religion actually works for healing for some. I'm sure it does. And I do believe in faith and faith as a healing energy in people. I also do have faith in a Creator and feel Jesus is a good, positive teacher, with so much to offer. However, what people do with religion, to me, is not often illumination so much as avoid. I have been in church every Sunday day and night, and every Wednesday, plus Sunday School, and I was a missionary kid, so I was surrounded by religion. My experience is that if you get close enough to a person in church, they might let you see that they don't actually let religion run their whole brain or life. But if you're not a trusted confidant, you get the same "pray and read your bible" babble that is really like code for "I don't trust you."

Maybe I'm reading into this. I don't know, but it's not what I wanted to hear.

On the other hand, maybe she does feel quite a lot on this issue, and just can't do this right now, but felt she had to say something. I don't know. I think she cares, but it's like "okay, whatever. Thanks, I guess."

I think the right thing to do is give her the benefit of the doubt and be grateful for the response, even though it's not what I hoped for. Often, people are doing their best, right? Maybe I should focus more on being a good friend than expecting one. :)
 
No offense as I see it, I trust you and I am a Christian Muse. It is a question of personal perspectives, hers is not yours. Mine is maybe not yours but we can have perceptual/spiritual or not differences and still agree. The last three sentences of your post are spot on.
 
Religion for me is a moral code that I lacked. It is not a drug for me, it is a reason for me to attempt/aspire to be more than the sum of my parts. Sometimes I'm successful... sometimes not. But the benefit is in the endeavor I don't tend to focus too much on the where I'm gonna wind up stuff cuz I got enough to deal with just doing "life".
 
Really, what I think it comes down to is that people who have one or more of the following:

a. have little to no personal or relational experience with trauma (aka, the 'lucky ones')
b. have traumatic or infantile amnesia or active repression of (their own) trauma, or
c. are not relatively emotionally experienced or intelligent, overall
d. extreme introvert; lack of social engagement

do not know how to respond to others who suffer from trauma or PTSD, and it's not really their fault. They're simply not outfitted with the capacity to be a "good responder." Even when they want to help, they just don't have the training or talent.

I think my friend has d. introversion, and possibly b. repression/dissociation/denial of trauma. I recall that G. was grooming her with the group, and shortly after (2 days later) she completely withdrew socially. She selected a new friend, who was highly manipulative, and allowed her and her mother to sort of "adopt her and her siblings." After that fell apart and they moved away suddenly, she (the introverted sister) had no luck making friends. She simply never talked to anyone. I'm verbal, if you can't tell by my long posts and career as professional "talker." My friend likes to be the "listener" and then jump in to the conversation when she wants to. I'm a good listener, or I try to be for all my friends, in that I tend to be sympathetic or feel empathy for what they need. I could do better about asking questions or helping the other person feel important. I work on it, partly by just "shutting up" and partly by remembering what's been going on with them and asking them about it or their thoughts on interesting or novel things coming up, films, new restaurants, things they like.

I feel that my friends' parents were unintentionally neglectful. They are artists/musicians, who were forever tuning their guitars in some other room and/or composing. They had "dreams," which is, now I realize a dangerous thing for a parent to have. I remember thinking how terrible it was that the kids were left on their own in their rooms with a closed door for hours (all school day) with a glass of water when they had a fever. They were not checked, entertained by TV or music, offered foods or popsicles, or given a cold cloth or anything. They were expected to sleep all day. There was a culture of independence and asking God for things that people should have provided, in my opinion. --I'm not waiting for the afterlife for a hug and an ibuprofen-- My nurse mom at least usually performed okay on nursing duties. That was her strong point, when she was around.

My husband and I are becoming more aware (in our 30s) of the world as full of people who either can or cannot be empathetic in a given situation. Some people develop the skills of being more empathetic/caring over a lifetime with effort, and often, this is exhibited in a limited arena (forum, workplace, home, church community, youth organization, etc.). Others are just really good at empathy, always have been, and end up being a counselor whether paid or not, and seem to hold their own in many relationships.

I can't expect that from everyone, as it's a gift. But being on this forum, which I think attracts people in search of empathy, and empathy skills, may create for me the illusion that a disproportionate % of the pop have a baseline of such skills. :)

In other words, not everyone can write like those on this forum and that's just too bad.

Thanks, Albatross for not being offended. In a certain mood, I could really share spiritual community, but since my Dx of PTSD, my life has veered away. I think that would have happened even had it been Civil War Reenactors or whatever group we were in. I just needed a huge break from the whole culture I was steeped in and which my trauma occurred. Some of it's avoidance, clearly. Some of it's boredom (been there, done that for 30 years). Some of it cultural, I'm an academic. Some of it is I don't "join things" and avoid being a core part of a group based on temperament (INTJ).

The later is likely huge. I don't fit in, anywhere, and never will, and so should own it. I'm very, very lucky to have met my best friend and husband/life co-adventurer early, both were 17.5 years old. I have been much more happy ever since, despite differences, I love being married. Since finding this relationship, all others besides my kids, co-workers, students, neighbors, and school friends, seem too far out and I don't have the time or desire. I just want to spend my time with my husband. He likes to hang out with guys at work, but he likes his time with his wife and daughters. So, I think, I'm spoiled.
 
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