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Soul Recovery Or Retrieval

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therapybankrupt

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Hello everyone reading this! I came across this on the internet in my research for healing. There are Shamans and other types of spiritual groups that believe they can get back the soul once it is lost or retrieve piece of it. I am wondering if anyone had tried this? Can you elaborate? Thanks

tb
 
I actually saw this on TV before. I first learned about this in a class I took at the University. Shamans are known for healing and being able to communicate with the dead, is what I took from the class. I know they perform a ritual to align your soul. It includes music and chanting, I believe. From what it sounds people in East Asia choose their shamans. That is about as far as I remember, this was a while ago. I don't know how to locate one though. Maybe look up shinto religion?
 
Please be careful, looking into this.

I think only we can call our own spirits back (which I'll call it here). It's something other people can maybe help us with but they can't do it for us. I would be really, really, really wary of anyone claiming they can do it for you. This is not to do with how sincere they are - they might be, and they might not be - but so much could go badly. And personally, I don't think this is a valid approach.

Do you know David Chetlahe Paladin's story? If not, I recommend googling it. This is my image of calling one's spirit back. After various ordeals, he returned to his Navajo tribe broken physically, mentally and spiritually. The elders carried out a ritual which forced him to choose between becoming present and whole again, or giving up completely. He chose to call his spirit back.

Two points about the story.

The first is that the elders didn't retrieve his soul for him. They didn't tell him how to, and they didn't take him through any steps. They merely faced him with the necessity for him to do it or remain lost. If anyone's seriously looking into this, they're probably already aware of that need. I'm not convinced that anyone else can add much, or can genuinely help with this process, through dramatic ceremonies, rituals, weekend retreats, shamanic treatments or the like.

The second point is - are you a Navajo? I'm not being flippant, if you're a Navajo (or were brought up in whatever tradition is being drawn on) then this won't apply. If you're considering something that isn't a tradition in your own cultural background, I think it's good to ask yourself some questions:

- How much genuine, full understanding do you have of the meaning and implications of what's being offered?

- Do you know enough to assess it and make an informed judgement about it?

- Can you tell if it's an ethical and responsible way to use the tradition?

- Can you tell if it's likely to be safe for you?

- Are you attracted to it because it's outside your usual experiences, and you hope it can work in some magical way, when you wouldn't expect the same from a tradition you're more familiar with?

- If it really is powerful and can have an effect of any sort, do you want to actually put yourself/your soul in the hands of someone you don't know using a method you know little about?

There are two ways that I think other people can help us in the process of calling our spirits back.

One way is by encouraging and guiding us. That doesn't have to be religion, or even something like meditation, although it can be. It doesn't have to be from your own cultural tradition either. It could be shamanism. My personal view, though, is that it needs to be something that doesn't promise dramatic magic (including in the shamanic sense) and doesn't promise to do anything for you other than help you to find your own way.

The other is that I think some rituals and traditions can give us support and help in the process. For example, I've had a blessing from a monk at a Buddhist temple. I did this knowing a lot about Buddhism and what to expect. I knew that the blessing could be powerful, but that the power wasn't a magical one, it wasn't going to suddenly change everything, it would be completely safe and the monk wasn't retrieving anything for me. He was only helping me to connect to energies/spirituality or whatever you want to call it, that I needed to connect to for myself.
 
Do you know David Chetlahe Paladin's story?

Hashi I looked into Davids story. Who was a shaman when he died. The story I got was the elders took him to the river and threw him in and said regain your soul or die. He swam for his life as a cripple and got out of the water and walked. May be this would do it for me. LOL

I just had an interest in researching the soul retrieval for fragmented inner children. I read on a couple of sites that it is possible to feel whole again and not so empty. Just trying to find out a little bit from others experiences. Thanks for your input. There is a retreat in my near area run by a psychiatrist with shaman therapies. She has teaching retreats also. Never want to count any therapy out.

tb
 
Oh and this type healing is used for those who were in long term relationships with narcissists. There is a school of thought that you surrender parts of your soul during the relationship/ They list PSTD symptoms as soul loss symptoms.
 
The story I got was the elders took him to the river and threw him in and said regain your soul or die.

Yes, I was thinking of asking if you wanted the real deal! But the point is still - they didn't do it for him.

Whatever aspect it's for, the key thing for me is the difference between someone supporting and guiding you in your own process and someone saying they'll do it for you. As I said, shamanism or other things can help you on your journey, but I don't believe someone else can retrieve your soul or part of it for you.

As I see soul retrieval, it's not about someone else bringing it, the healing is the change that you're making in order to call it back. Which is what David's story is about.
 
This approach worked for me, though I also did it myself rather than rely on an other person. Between that and becoming a fireman, my symptoms have almost completely vanished.

The hard part, if you aren't able to do it yourself, is finding someone who can; a decent shaman is hard to find in a society that doesn't acknowledge their existence and thus has no rules and no recourse if something goes wrong.
 
It makes a lot of sense to include the soul into the healing process. My understanding of shamanism is that they act as guides or interpreters. There's different words for that sort of wisdom in different cultures, but the interconnected view of the soul, the earth and that beyond is pretty universal.

Wading in with some meditation may point towards the path that suits you best. It's not always the path of our ancestors, it can be, but it doesn't have to. Personally I'm of western European lineage and found myself drawn to Afro-Caribbean beliefs. It's where the light came shining from when I was in darkness. It's not my place to know why, I can be grateful for that light without understanding what made it shine.
 
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