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Relationship Starting Over As Friends? Need Advice...

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Hi, I'm hoping to get some advice from any supporters who may have been in a similar situation as me.

I've been seeing my sufferer for a couple months. We met on a dating site and had agreed to meet as friends and see where it went. However, like a lot of the threads I've read on here, we connected immediately, as if we'd always known each other, the friends thing didn't last long at all and our relationship developed very quickly. I've already dealt with some periods of isolation, where he won't answer texts or phone calls for several days, and gone for a couple weeks without seeing him. I'm getting used to this.

We have not been intimate yet (although we came close on several occasions and both decided we wanted to wait until we know each other better, so that we didn't rush into anything and ruin something good), but we have kissed and have slept in the same bed, during which he held me in his arms all night.

This past week, after barely hearing from him and not seeing him for 2 weeks, he agreed to see me and said he had something important to tell me. He admitted that he's been having a hard time lately, a lot of anxiety, being too much in his head all the time, overthinking everything, having vivid nightmares, etc. He attributed all of this to his best friend having been in ICU for the past month (which he had finally been released the day he was explaining all this to me) and also to our relationship and the fact that he thinks it might be moving too fast.

He actually expressed this once before, right before our second date, when he tried to break off the date. At that time, I agreed that if he was uncomfortable with the pace, that we should slow down. He was concerned that he had hurt my feelings and I assured him that it was fine, and I was happy we were communicating. However, at the last minute, he decided he wanted to to keep our date and everything went great, until afterwards, when he went into shut-down mode for several days, barely communicating at all. Again, I've started to get used to this. But this seems to be the pattern for our relationship. He will start communicating with me, we'll get together, things go so well and then he shuts down.

So back to this Wednesday... he said that he wants us to start over and try to focus a little more on the friendship part of our relationship and work more slowly towards a romantic relationship. He said that he had wanted to talk to me about this in person because he really cares about me and thought that if he did it over text I would think he wasn't interested anymore, which isn't true. I agreed to take things as slowly as he needs.

He's hoping that slowing the pace of the relationship and also not having to worry about his friend anymore will help to alleviate some of the issues he's been experiencing lately and that we will be able to get back on track soon.

Before I left also let him know that when he shuts down and doesn't text or respond back to me, I don't take that personally or hold it against him. I understand he's going through something he can't control and I won't ever be angry about unanswered texts nor will I ever throw that back in his face. That's something that he doesn't have to add to his list of anxieties. He was so appreciative. He said that if that's the case, I'm 1 of 100 people in his life that's like that. Especially the women in his life, like his sisters, his mom. They will generally be the ones who get on him about not responding to their messages. Hopefully this will also alleviate some of his more recent anxieties.

Now, although he SAID that he wanted to start over as friends, he was very affectionate the entire evening. When I tried walking out the door, he grabbed me from behind and put his arm around me and kind of pinned me to the door (not in an aggressive way, just kind of like he didn't want me to leave) and held me close for like 10 minutes, then tried to back out of the "just friends" thing. I finally had to ask if that's what he truly wanted or was he just going to change his mind the next day and want to be just friends again. I told him that I wanted to do what's best for him right now and not what feels the best. He finally agreed and I left. On my way home he texted me thanking me for understanding and also for having more willpower than him. He's also been much more communicative this week. Normally if I ask how he is, he'll answer and that's it. Now he'll answer and then ask how I am.

Okay, so now after that novel, has anyone had an experience like this, where you've gone backwards in the relationship? And if so, any advice on how I approach him going forward? His plan was that we continue texting, talking on the phone, hanging out at each other's houses like normal, just no kissing or other physical contact (we can't really go anywhere out, cuz he's physically disabled and has chronic pain that prevents him from being able to be comfortable anywhere but home or my place). I'm not sure how to be JUST friends with a man that I'm SO physically attracted to, especially after we've already crossed that line. Any advice on how you've handled the situation, like how often you text, hang out, etc. would be so greatly appreciated. I care so much about him and only want to get back where we were (but not at the expense of his health, of course).
 
I would be looking at relationship history. I am going through a similar situation but from his side of it. I have a disastrous relationship history and 4 years ago I decided that enough was enough so I was staying single because it was comfortable and safe. This year I chose to change my life completely by going into full time education which gave me goals in life. I met someone a couple of weeks ago and she has she same complaints as you about me "running hot and cold" all the time. She is aware of my past and I have explained to her that her lifestyle is completely different to what I am used to ie she is used to a noisy environment whilst I enjoy peace and quiet. This is definitely an adjustment period for both parties and probably pushing comfort zones since a new person has not only entered a life but is going to be someone very close emotionally. That can be very stressful for some people (me being one), especially if there are existing psychological stresses present.
you seem to be communicating and understanding which is a great start. Try and look at the situation from the other side and encourage him to understand your side of it. Hopefully you will gradually build on that and things will work out. Neither of you needs added pressure but a little compromise on both sides will help. For example, I had some bad news on Thursday and I isolated myself to think about it (which was not appreciated) but now I know that even a quick txt to say goodnight will satisfy her concerns. Be mindful of your concerns (and voice them gently) but listen to his too and work out a compromise to suit you both
 
I would be looking at relationship history.

He was medically discharged from the Marines after an injury and subsequent failed surgery, which made the injury much worse. Sometime during that situation was when his last relationship ended (I don't know the details of the breakup. I'm letting him tell me anything that involves hurt or emotions in his own time, I'm not pushing him on those things), so this will be his first relationship in over 6 years AND the first since his PTSD symptoms surfaced.

I think he's sort of gotten used to his periods of isolation and what that's going to mean for his close relationships (his friends, family, etc.), but I think even he doesn't know what's happening right now, as this is a first for him as far as dealing with the feelings of a new relationship and having PTSD.

Like I said in my previous post, I'm hoping that my telling him that his isolation periods don't anger or hurt me, and that he won't need to worry about backlash coming from me during or after these periods, this will take some pressure off of him and will ease some of what's his swirling around in his mind ALL the time.

During that conversation I also told him that I like him for exactly who he is, as is & I accept him PTSD & all. I told him I don't want to try to change him, only work together and communicate to get where we want to be.
 
you sound like you are being patient and understanding. That cant be easy but keep it up even if you think it is about you. It will not be about you! If he is still in your life then it can only because he wants you in his life but probably doesn't know how to interact with you on that level. I have been single for 4 years and the thought of an emotional attachment terrifies me. He may well be the same but again, he is hanging on instead of running away. That says a lot about how much he likes you so hang in there and let him deal with things slowly and carefully
 
Reading over your relationship history, because you haven't been together long, his pattern of behaviour sounds like he never has been quite ready for a relationship. As a sufferer, sometimes we want the close companionship of another person without the pressures that can come from being in a relationship, and that sounds like what he wants. It doesn't sound like you are comfortable giving him just friendship.
He has moments where it seems he wants more, and this sounds like hormones talking, as all his other words and actions are pleading to just be friends. If this is something you cannot do, because of your level of attraction and involvement, it might be wise to just take a step back from all of it and give it all some space until he is sure what he wants and you are capable of giving him what it is he wants.

Do you know if he is in therapy? It might be the best thing for him right now to get himself sorted and start to overcome what he has gone through.
Take Care
 
I was in a nearly identical situation a few years back and it was disastrous. Basically, I always wanted to be more than friends and he was not in the right place for a relationship. So I was perpetually hoping for more and he would give me hope because he either didn't want to hurt me or genuinely wanted a relationship himself but wasn't ready. Long story short, there was a lot of pain, it ended terribly, for the both of us. And it all could have been avoided if I'd been strong enough to just be honest and say, "I'm not okay with being just friends. So I'm walking away."

Your situation sounds similar, at least in the sense that you seem to be longing for a romantic relationship while he keeps saying he's not really ready. I would advise you to be honest with him. There is a very good chance that, at some point, if you try to be friends you two will end up sleeping together (because you're both human, and there is an attraction), and you may then take that to mean you guys are in a relationship ... but he'll still not be ready for the relationship. So you'll feel used and just be even more confused. That would be my prediction, but I realize I may be biased because of my own personal experience with this sort of situation.
 
It doesn't sound like you are comfortable giving him just friendship.
He has moments where it seems he wants more, and this sounds like hormones talking, as all his other words and actions are pleading to just be friends.

I am absolutely willing to do whatever I have to do to give him just friendship, both because I enjoy his company, just hanging out and doing nothing romantic and also because I know that he is worth any effort. The hard part is that while he said he wanted the friendship, he seems to have little conviction when it comes to sticking to the decision. He couldn't or wouldn't keep his hands off me the entire night and I had to keep questioning what he wanted and I kept it friendly. After I left, he sent me a text thanking me for understanding and for being stronger than him, but then also sent me a bunch of semi-nude photos and graphic texts. Again I questioned him about the just friends thing and he agreed and said he would stop with the pics and texts. Things have been more friendly since then, but generally it seems like I'm steering the dialogue, so I have to be the one to be the strong one here. Which is fine. I can do that for his mental health at this time and for the greater good of the relationship in the long run.

He does have standing psych appointments and also has the ability to do drop-in appointments and was going to take advantage of those to discuss his recent increase in anxiety and nightmares and also the new relationship.
 
I would advise you to be honest with him.

When we had the discussion about going back to being friends, we discussed the fact that we both knew that it was something that I wasn't happy with at the time. That was part of the reason he had been isolating from me the week before, because he knew he was going to upset me with the news of going backwards. I also expressed myself very honestly in our conversation and afterwards about how I truly feel. He knows that ultimately I want a relationship with him, but that I'm willing to go at his pace to get there. And I guess I need to start to think about and interact with him in a completely different way than I have been. It's definitely a learning curve...
 
He reached out to me on Sunday and asked me to come over to spend some time with him, which I did. I was over there from about 4 pm until midnight. We watched movies most of the time, but at one point he again tried to be more intimate with me (kissing, etc.), which is hard to deny him because I want that too ultimately. I asked several times if he was sure that's what he wanted and he assured me he did, but when I pressed him and asked if it was going to trigger him and make his anxiety worse in the long run, he was unsure and stopped.

We talked for a long time after, about what he might be afraid of when it comes to the relationship (he doesn't know), why his anxiety is triggered after we're together (all he can say is that the more he cares about me, the more anxious he gets). He's talked to his psych about us already and they are trying to get him set up with a relationship therapist.

In the meantime, we're still backing off a full-on romantic relationship for now, at least until he can see this new therapist. We both agreed that the "just" friends thing is too hard for both of us, especially him, so we're going with something in-between for now. Kind of a chaste relationship, with only cuddling, hugging, hand holding but nothing more. I find it easier to stop than he does, I'm always the voice of reason, so that's my role now, to make sure we're doing things that are really for the good of the Team.

We were also able to talk a little more about his periods of isolation and what we need from each other during those times. He's agreed to let me know when he's having a bad time by texting me so I know not to bother him and then he'll contact me again when he's ready.

All in all it was pretty good and productive :)
 
Props to him for talking to his therapist about this and being open to a relationship therapist -- that's a very good sign!

I really feel like it is too. Which is why I'd like to continue to take things slow and not rush anything, even when he is sometimes pushing for being more physical, because afterwards he seems to get really spooked.

I don't know how quickly things go as far as scheduling in the VA, but hopefully he'll get set up with this new relationship therapist soon and they can help him at least help him try to understand what's going on on his head when it comes to us so he can possibly cope better and we can move forward and work on it together.
 
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