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Supporting Vets/wounded Warriors: Words Vs. Actions

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Spock

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Just some random thoughts about actions vs. words and how the beast affects my patience.

Some of you know I'm actively engage in mentoring vets and charity organizations that support them. I try to work with folks, most still on active duty, to get over the stigma and seek treatment. Many are in a very bad place because they've been in denial or blind. So, it is very raw as you all know here. So it has become a passion, mainly because we all know people that are caught jumping in and out of the daily suicide bomb (22/day here is the USA). It may be exhausting but I've seen more than one person on here comment that by saving just one, they will feel better.

So by investing myself, I've started working my network for some charity and donations for the cause. I've also reflected on the frequent comment "Thank you for your service." That comment means a lot, especially for the Nam vets that were neglected by an ignorant public. Now sometimes, to me, with budget cutbacks and painfully slow improvement, those words are starting to feel a bit tainted, expected, even shallow. It seems that when a person says it they have an excuse to move on do nothing else, to be free of showing active support. I know the beast tells me to take it personal and most of those people are genuine and many engaged in other worthy pursuits. Still it made me reflect on it, write about it and to seek more "support" from them.

I know the men & women here understand my feelings better than most so I thought I share with you my pep talk (email message) to some volunteers helping us do a charity event:

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Do NOT disengage when someone responds that they cannot attend [the charity event] which usually comes with some rhetoric about how much they support wounded warriors and wish us well. Jump through that door!
A better response is; the fact they cannot attend is fine, we know it is late, but it is more important for them to SHOW real support, not speak of it, in two ways:
(1) Donate
(2) Share by word-of-mouth
The [event] invitation & website allow people to donate in-lieu-of attending, any amount $1, 5, 50, 500, etc. We need to put a mirror up in front of the "regretfully cannot-attends" and encourage them to go to the website and take an active role in supporting wounded warriors by using the "DONATE" button & SHARING the cause/webpage with everyone they know; so they can brag about the worthy new charity they're proud to be part of and support.
We need to take advantage of pressing them while we have the charity event as an excuse to reach out and touch their souls, yank them from all the noise that distracts them and causes them to simply repeat what they were brainwashed to say "thank you for your service."
Enjoy your turkey day, a lot of veterans died and suffered so we can have a Thanksgiving. I'm thankful for their sacrifice and I will reflect on it this thanksgiving as I do nearly every day. The fact is that at least 22 will kill themselves on Thanksgiving to stop the pain they brought home with them from combat; 22 more will do it the next day, and on and on, exhausted by life. That is the brutal reality. This is what drives [Joe,] [Bill] & myself.
This is my passion. I hope it moves you as well. I don't mean to offend but this is my truth.
I appreciate all the hard work you are all doing to help me actively engage my passion.
I sincerely thank you,

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So I intend to still tell my fellow vets thank you for your service and be gracious to anyone saying that to me but I'm working on adding a little encouragement to my response because after the words, it is up to us vets since we're the ones most invested.

Stay safe, stay strong
 
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I don't know why you're thanking us. What you speak of is why we're here. Over the years, I've been blessed with fellow war Vets helping me. In school. At work. All manner of things. And now, I've the capability and mechanisms necessary to help Our "new" Vets. I also am blessed to come away from this place a better, stronger man. You guys did that and nobody asked you to.

Some might say it's part of our oath. Other, the bonding that occurred in battle. Still others, like myself, repaying kindnesses and paying it forward. And yes, I still search for that one of the 22 I might be able to turn around.

Don't thank us, you're a part of it all.

Sarg
 
Well Done Spock. There are so many vets in need of guidance, help and motivation. It's hard to take that first step and you're there to help to do that. I admire that.

Here, on these forums, we don't always see eye to eye and have differing opinions but at least we can still voice them. It's people like us that have made these freedoms possible, regardless of the war you served in and what it's particular outcome was or is. It's about people willing to serve their country and do it with honor and integrity. I'm humbled by the sacrifices that ya'll have made and I know I'm a surly, old bastard but glad to be here even still.

As Sarg said; you're and we are all a part of it all
 
I don't know why you're thanking us. What you speak of is why we're here. Over the years, I've been blessed with fellow war Vets helping me. In school. At work. All manner of things. And now, I've the capability and mechanisms necessary to help Our "new" Vets. I also am blessed to come away from this place a better, stronger man. You guys did that and nobody asked you to.

Some might say it's part of our oath. Other, the bonding that occurred in battle. Still others, like myself, repaying kindnesses and paying it forward. And yes, I still search for that one of the 22 I might be able to turn around.

Don't thank us, you're a part of it all.

Sarg
Well noted Sarg...my primary awareness began early in OIF & OEF when the first cries of baby killer and disdain began to be directed at service members & started up again but Nam Vets squashed that with a heavy hand! That was having our back and keeping the public on point with its anti-war rhetoric. For that we are all grateful.
 
Spock. I care to think that there were a number of us Nam Vets that said, "It ain't gonna happen again!". WE were not going to let you guys suffer and die like so many of us did. WE started the battle cry all the way back to the Gulf Wars. A little Lady named T-Bird started Hadit, a group of hard nosed Vets formed VBN, VA Watchdog.org. all websites dedicated to helping new Vets.

Here and now, folks are more generous to you guys. Wounded Warriors (to which I contribute every month), the PTSD and other work dog projects, just too many to name, all in response to you. I hope that we had a little to do with that.

I just kept saying over and over...it ain't gonna happen again.

Sarg
 
Nice work Spock!

Hey, there were very few there for us when I returned. Thank the Lord that has changed over the years.

I still have an application somewhere for the VFW that was rejected because VN in 1966 was not a war. I've heard similar stories regarding the Legion as well. Never looked back for another 45 years. I have a lot of respect for those who did not give up the fight. They took it to them, they being VVA and the VVAW, and made it better for those returning today.

Today I can lend my time to what is needed to foster the awareness of existing problems with returning warriors. I get up to the local VA PTSD ward with a message of hope and support along with a couple of 'can-shakes' each year. This the least I can do and let them know they are NOT forgotten!

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Ba, I think they just opened up an office just up the road. I keep forgetting to stop by and see if they had any little things I could do to help. Something that wouldn't be too high profile but helpful none the less. And yes, both the VFW and Legion turned me down when I first got back. Therefore, they have never had the pleasure of my greenbacks in their hip pockets.

Sarg
 
I've never had a veterans service organization reach out to help me, no one not ever.

The DAV helped with my last claim but only after I went to them, became a life member and prodded the shit out of them, much like the VA.

Just because they're made up of vets doesn't mean a thing to me. From what I see they all have a political agenda and the members want to drink cheap beer and polish their medals while they tell their incessant war stories.

I was told by a couple of those orgs when I got back that my war wasn't a war. Haven't forgotten that.
 
Roger that, Jar. My Dad's great uncle was some big foombah in the VFW. Foombah says no service officer. Last contact with foombahs until my last go round at the Board of Appeals, remanded to Phoenix, where they sat on it for two years. Amvets. My opinion is poor of them but I've heard otherwise elsewhere.

Yep! It was a police action. Nobody, I mean nobody ever gave me a ticket book. No Harley with the blue light on back.

But I do see some encouraging things. Much to my surprise our new Vets coming home are jumping into the Service Orgs. and giving them a breath of clean air. One is in our Vet Center group meetings. He's studying to become a service officer. Some issue in contention will come up and he starts tapping away at his I-Pod or whatever and quotes chapter and verse. I like that. Instant right answers.

Sarg
 
You have to have hope for the future or else, what's the point.

Personally, I feel that I'd hate to see other returning vets having to go through what we did. Unfortunately, I think that's like a parent not wanting their child to have to struggle as they did.

The truth may be that we're better, at least in some ways, for the struggle. I won't wax philosophical here but I think in part that's so.

"Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to go to his class." -Choi, Hong Hi

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
 
You have to have hope for the future or else, what's the point.

Personally, I feel that I'd hate to see other returning vets having to go through what we did. Unfortunately, I think that's like a parent not wanting their child to have to struggle as they did.

The truth may be that we're better, at least in some ways, for the struggle. I won't wax philosophical here but I think in part that's so.

"Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to go to his class." -Choi, Hong Hi

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

I like that quote and agree with you Jar
 
... Foombah says no service officer. ...
But I do see some encouraging things. Much to my surprise our new Vets coming home are jumping into the Service Orgs. and giving them a breath of clean air. One is in our Vet Center group meetings. He's studying to become a service officer. Some issue in contention will come up and he starts tapping away at his I-Pod or whatever and quotes chapter and verse. I like that. Instant right answers.

Sarg

Very interesting feedback...I was wondering why DAV hasn't done shit for me either despite their claims. Now you have me fired up to get in front of them and call them out. AFW & Am Legion...always coming hard at me like salesmen...this is depressing news.
 
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