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Terrible Mistake

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Casey_03

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So some of you may know I was planning to move back to the States after spending 10 years abroad, primarily to let my 5-month-old son have more family around. But it all went belly up and I now think it was a terrible idea to begin with.

My sister arrived to help me; I paid for her airfare so that she could help. At first things were fine, but then throughout her stay I started to realize why I never got along with her and never wanted to be near my family to begin with -- they invalidate and dismiss absolutely everything I say. It's like they don't think I have a right to my own voice/opinion.

When my sister was here, she repeatedly tried to argue with me about what was best for my son. We were in a restaurant with my son when things got very very loud and very chaotic. A live band began playing raucous music and going from table to table. People were dancing all over the place and there were a lot of drunks. I saw that my son was starting to get scared and overstimulated. He was sobbing uncontrollably. So I told my sister I was taking him outside and that we should go home, because he was already in a complete panic. Her response was, "Just let him cry there, no one can hear him crying anyway." Then, when I explained that he was overstimulated and stressed, she said, "It's good for him to be overstimulated. Just leave him." Mind you she has no children of her own and has no idea what she's talking about.

Fast forward to today. The flight is tomorrow. The baby now has a very high fever, probably as a result from being around other children in the restaurant yesterday. I told my sister that if he is still sick tomorrow, I cannot take him on the plane. One, because the airline does not allow it and doctors strongly advise against it. I told my sister that we need to re-evaluate the whole situation because a) he is sick and may not get better within less than 24 hours and b) the fact that he is sick makes it next to impossible for me to clean the apartment today and pack everything I need to pack (plus I still have to work later).
Her response was, "you're such a f*cking drama queen."

When she said that I realized how much I despise my family, and don't want to be around them. I remember her saying the same thing after I'd been molested as a child, and for the following 15 years I got the same response anytime something was seriously wrong. My feelings were always dismissed and I was scolded for "making a big deal" out of things.

To hear this now coming from someone who doesn't pay rent, doesn't have any kids and doesn't really have any serious responsibilities in life .... whose idea of a struggle is getting fewer than 6 hours of sleep .... Well, I want nothing to do with her or anyone in my family. I now remember why I left home to begin with.
 
While I am personally known to wipe entire continents off my mental map because of a few people breathing on them / I refuse to share air with them... This is just a reminder that being in the same country as your family does not obligate you to have anything to do with them.

Yes, you may need &/or want to stay with them until you have your job & 1st/last/deposit on a new place down... But if they're abusive you can go to a parents&children shelter if you're broke or emergency housing, or month to month studio on the cheap while you save for better if you've got some wiggle room. And that's worst case scenario.

There were more reasons you wanted to be stateside, than just your family, right? They just gave you a city to aim for & familiar ground while you work on a fresh start for you & your little one? How much you let them into your life, once there, is entirely up to you.
 
I agree with @Friday, i remember many more reasons for you to come back to the States then your family. It's a VERY large country! :sneaky:

My family is the exact same way with "XYZ isn't abuse" or wasn't abuse and "you are a pathological lair". Ah, pathological status now?

They are not in my life and if I had children, would not be in their life. They are abusive and not needed for my survival and in this world. I can thrive even without them. Likely would thrive without them where with them around it's about survival only.

Don't loose sight of why you wanted to come back. Other than family. I remember other reasons. Just don't loose touch with them due to an ignorant sister.
 
I suppose I would still be prepared to move there if things were really that bad here. But I realize now it's likely to be WORSE stateside, because I've now also discovered I am expected to become the full time caretaker for my 95 year old grandma. My family was being sneaky about it and acting like I wouldn't be responsible for her, but it's now come out that her caretaker just had hip surgery and they are expecting me to take on her role.

If I had enough money in the bank to believe I could get my own place upon moving back, even within a few months, I'd still go. But I don't, and there are also no prospects for earning enough any time soon. The income I do have from my part-time job will only be enough to cover food and baby expenses, not enough to save up to pay rent anywhere. It was my fault for ever thinking this would be a good idea in the first place. I just jumped the gun.

I will apologize to my sister for wasting her time, and compensate her for any expenses she incurred on this trip. But at the end of the day I have to look out for myself and my kid. At least I realized this now rather than after I came back.

I guess I don't see the point of putting myself in a position where I may have to move into a shelter when I have my own place here, and stability. That's the main thing. I have stability here, I see no chance of having that there.
 
The main reason I wanted to come back was so my son could be around family. But if that same family is going to be toxic towards me, I'm just setting myself up for instability and a breakdown.

As for my plans to go back to school (which was the other reason I wanted to come back), that was always a long shot to begin with.
 
I'm sorry this all failed. I know you were looking foward to it. But I am in agreement to not place yourself in a position that will allow your family to take advantage. I think you are doing the right thing to stop and take a step back.

Are you in a position where you are to save more money up? Go when you have the money for your own place and maybe secure that place right before you leave? Put it off some to save money?

I think a big factor to me is which country would be better to live in and raise a child in. Which one is in a better state.
 
The main reason I wanted to come back was so my son could be around family.
That's a reason to redefine family and find the family worth having him, the biological one clearly isn't it.

Casey, I second everyone above who said the States simply isn't just them. & Speaking purely of ways to support your child, where are you better off: Ukraine or the States?
 
@Ronin True, but since I was going to be living with her rent-free, she (or the rest of my family) could throw me out at anytime for refusing to take care of her.

Honestly I think I dodged a bullet here. Now I just have to do damage control here and try to keep my apartment and find a new job (since I already resigned from my full-time job).
 
@Ronin Right now I believe we are better off in Ukraine. I will just have to save up enough to pay for my own place in the States at some point later on. It will take a while, but I think I should be able to move back by the time my son needs to go to preschool.
 
@Casey_03, that is then. Or: burning that bridge when you get there.

I'd worry about getting home, first, everyone else and planning what they do, second. When it isn't being in a rush of moving continents. & Just thinking of child protective services & homelessness options, in my book America's still more survivable than Eastern Europe.

EDITed to add: Oh, seen the above. Just please make sure that family aren't the only reason for that decision, as they're not worthy of being the sole reason to decide on, with how they act.
 
I'm sorry to hear this, @Casey_03.
At such a stressul time and to be reminded of hurtful family behaviour.
You're a different woman now. Its 10 years later.

Show them that you are not going to be walked all over.

Your value isn't decided by these people.
 
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