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Visualization And Therapy

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Hi @Echo, I understand. I tried to do so, but could not find the original reference and it didn't copy over. I have provided @Nicolette with the link to the posting. It was the best I knew how to do.
 
@Hashi and all reading this thread, this thread was a spinoff of another thread because the conversation was going in a different direction. This conversation started on page 4 of the thread called Splitting (it began on page 4 of that thread...see the link below).

It was about finding safe "places" in the midst of overwhelm whether internally or externally. Sorry about all the confusion...I should have just started a separate thread right from the get go. Here is the link. Starts on page 4:
https://www.myptsd.com/threads/splitting.40585/page-4#post-677668
 
Tonight is a difficult night for me. I am trying to visualize my safe place as my mind is spinning. @Echo, I think it was you who stated in the post prior that you needed to be in a good space and that is so true when building your safe place and trying to get back to it (for me anyways). It is like I can picture where my safe place is and I keep searching for the perfect spot on the island, trying to get into any piece of it that I have built, but whatever it is that has me tonight, well, I guess I just haven't manufactured what will soothe me out of it yet.

I have been trying all week to figure out what is triggering me. Something big as my responses are very pronounced and I don't see a reason why they should be. I find whenever I can't get to my 'place' that it is another trigger I need to sort out and figure out what will help meet my needs to soothe me out of it.

Not sure if anyone really understands this but I just felt I had to write it down. Thanks for listening.
 
Hi @Hope4Now Would you be willing to say a bit more about what you mean?

what I am talking about here is the need for a safe place to keep me safe from myself--all the inner demons which are far worse than anything outside of me in my life at the moment.

Could you say what you mean by inner demons?

When I was first learning how to do psychic protection, I quickly found that the standard approaches of protecting yourself from things outside (imagining myself in a bubble, for example) would only "trap" me with the things that were on the inside. I realised I needed to equally visualise things being moved out of me. However, I'm not sure if that's the same thing that you're talking about.

Do you have an image that represents the inner demons? That has always been my best starting point for creating visualisations. If I have an image for the problem, I can come up with an image for how to address it.

An example would be that I used to experience the energy of trauma evil that was inside me as sinister dark areas that were attached to me inside. When I was feeling overcome by sick, helpless feelings that my past attackers were still attacking me (I used to hallucinate things like them appearing in the present and surrounding me) I visualised that as an internal thing, as me carrying miniature versions of them inside. Then I could come up with a visualisation to counter that.

Some things have no natural image for me, like negative beliefs. In that case, it's helpful to attach an image to them. A therapist gave me a wonderful visualisation for that, which included having them written down in a book. That gave me something "tangible" so I could then visualise doing something with them.

what do you do when you are distressed? I'm struggling with this...sometimes I don't notice the signals of encroaching distress until it's too late and I'm totally triggered.

I'm not sure what you mean by triggered. People use it in so many different ways. For example, having a flashback, intrusive memories, intrusive thoughts, dissociating, highly stressed, difficulty coping emotionally, difficulty coping practically, or angered.

Maybe if you could give an actual example? Even a made up one, or a sort of composite of things you typically would experience.
 
Ahhh @ghotiff you are so sweet! Thank you so much! I will try that now that you have invited me to do so. Thank you.

@Hashi I would love to speak more about your psychic attack issues. I have experienced this as well and would love to expand on this. I would be interested in opening a new post on this but won't be online much today. I will be working very very hard on grounding today.
 
Okay, I just realized that I need a place that is not only a safe place for me to hang and do some self soothing, but also a place that I can visualize where I can speak my truth to people (it needs to be built in my mind bit by bit as well). Some of you may know of my post of the school bully who died and it is having me flashback and all sorts of bad things are going on in my head. I am wondering if taking this visualization thing a step further and being able to have a place where I can bring people who have hurt me or others that have been important to me and being able to say exactly what I need to say and then dismiss them. Purge them. Let my feelings out without destroying anyone (as I don't want to be like them) but allowing myself to visualize exactly what I feel and not worrying about their response (therefore not having fear come into it).

I have come across 4 or 5 issues over the past week where bad things have happened to people who have targeted me and taken a piece of my soul, so I am thinking this will be my challenge for the time being. Not sure if this makes sense but the bottom line is that I feel I need to make two places through visualization. One for self care and the other for speaking my truth without fear. I feel that may help me to be able to incorporate my truth in my life as I practice it through visualization.

Thanks for listening.
 
Hi @Hashi, thanks for sharing your ideas.
Do you have an image that represents the inner demons? That has always been my best starting point for creating visualisations.
I guess "inner demons" was a bit strong, although they do feel that way sometimes. Basically they are frightening and very toxic/destructive energies that flood me at times. They can get activated by things outside of me, or by certain patterns of my thinking or behavior, or they can just come up seemingly out of nowhere. They are always there...but are sometimes muted.

Do you have an image that represents the inner demons?
Some things have no natural image for me, like negative beliefs.
Yes, lots of them. This is part of the therapy I am doing. However, I'm still just starting to distinguish separate bits from an overwhelming amalgamation of...well...overwhelm.

Some of the energies are memories of past traumatic experiences; the ones that are linked to specific whole memories I can visualize as pictures. Other energies are just tactile, visual, or auditory fragments that make no sense and create no narrative, but are quite frightening nonetheless.

Some of the energies are somatic ones. Massive chronic pain in sacrum and legs that prevents me from doing much at all, and various other physical sensations and movements that are not attached to anything at all in terms of memory or emotion. Just pure dissociations at this point. I have no visuals for these.

Some of the energies that get toxic are "belief" energies, or what are called "protectors" in Internal Family Systems therapy. They are not demons really, although they get so extreme in their attempts to protect me from overwhelm that they feel like demons (e.g., the belief that I am not real, or that I have no right to be alive are just two of the really extreme ones). These are the ones to which I've been able to attach visual images.

I'm not sure what you mean by triggered. People use it in so many different ways. For example, having a flashback, intrusive memories, intrusive thoughts, dissociating, highly stressed, difficulty coping emotionally, difficulty coping practically, or angered.
Maybe if you could give an actual example? Even a made up one, or a sort of composite of things you typically would experience.
For me, "triggered" means that negative energies get activated enough that I lose some sense of myself. I might depersonalize, dissociate (lose track of where I'm going, or how much time has passed, or the thread of a conversation), or have actual physical reactions (shaking, chills, dizziness, excruciating pain, more intense involuntary body movements or speech sounds). All sorts of things can trigger me--for example, a common external one is witnessing or being forced to engage in interaction with someone who is angry, or being with someone who is intoxicated or stoned, or feeling trapped somewhere, or being with my mother. The externals are easier to manage than the internals. The internal "triggers" are far less identifiable and harder to manage--that's why I was trying to figure out safe spaces to go in my mind that would help me "come down" from these. Problem is, once one of the energies gets going--e.g., say I made a mistake or forgot something--it's like a tsunami can build very fast.

Here's an example. This morning I was aware that I was feeling some negative energy and I worked on trying to get grounded, doing positive visualization, etc. I was pretty shaky as I got in the car to drive to work. Feeling frightened, having intrusive and overwhelming memory fragments, pain zinging around my body...I was starting to dissociate but noticed it and pulled myself out of it. Over the course of about 30 minutes, I was completely flooded by physical and emotional pain, and a barrage of memory bits. I had to sit in my car in the parking lot at work for almost an hour before I felt I could go to my office. During this time, I pulled out my journal and tried to write what was happening (writing is very helpful for me)--I could not grasp my pen well--my grip was like that of a young child's, and my handwriting also looked like a young child's (messy, all over the page) even though the content was my conscious adult thoughts. It is like dual consciousness.

It does pass eventually, but I would like to be able to manage it better, especially when I have some warning that it's coming on as I did this morning.

The problem I have is managing to hold on to AND feel safe in the "safe" space in my mind. I have great visualization. I just can't seem to get myself to the space...can go there in my intellectual/visual self, but the emotional and physical selves do not feel safe there.

It's all very strange, really. And I'll stop talking about it after this post because I'm not sure I'm articulating the experience or the problem in a way that makes sense to anyone else.
 
When I try to do this, it's as if part of me is there but most if me is highly conscious that it isn't real...isn't truly safe for me, is just something I am making up. So I can't relax into it physically or emotionally even if I can spiritually.
I have the same issue. Taking me for a walk in nature makes me feel very unsafe. Here's a question, @Hope4Now: have you ever lost yourself in a description or a ... whatever ... in a book, or song or a poem? Those were my safe places, not with people and most definitely NOT out in the open. I'm struggling here to articulate my thoughts as much as you - but let me try. Visualizing a place and trying to find safety there simply does not work for me. I get the impression we have the same difficulty.

But I do remember a feeling of safety, or actually almost a sensation of safety - and I find trying to get back to that feeling, instead of place, far more helpful. Silly example: I was 12 when I read Anne of Green Gables, and I remember reading the passage where Anne walks home in the 'purple twilight', and the description of the sounds and a general sense of peace.

That was when I fell in love with language and literature; I remember the moment - I was completely absorbed and lost in the text, and I can go back to that moment. So when I need a safe place, I first go back to that feeling (or similar feelings experienced at other times in response to other texts / things ) and then create a structure around that to contain that feeling, to keep unwanted things, people, intrusions out. Don't know if this makes sense to you.
 
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