Visualization And Therapy

[ghotiff]

This is interesting stuff...

Is your glass one-way. That is, can you see out, but no-one can see in?

 

[shimmerz]

Is your glass one-way. That is, can you see out, but no-one can see in?

Such an interesting question @ghotiff. If I were to imagine myself inside then I would need to see outside and the glass would have to be impenetrable. I don't think I would trust that if someone were to come up to the glass though. At night I would have to keep the lights off so nobody could see me inside.

If I was outside I would have to make certain that there was a completely clear view of all of the rooms - no place for someone to hide anywhere. So all walls would have to be completely clear.

However, I really like your idea of starting with a simple structure. One without different levels and no rooms. I hadn't thought to start there. thank you so much!

 

[Hope4Now]

@shimmerz what a troublesome burden you bear. Feeling trapped is a terrifying experience.

This conversation about the glass walls being clear or one way has made me realize something. I don't like people to see me. I mean they do, all the time. I like to see them, but not the other way around. Somewhere along the line I disconnected with that piece of myself--enough that I am social and have a job in which I am regularly seen as a speaker. Just in the past year people have begun videotaping some of my lectures and putting stuff on you tube. This really disturbs me...and I now realize it is related to my not wanting to be seen. I don't like to see myself either. Hmmm.

 

[shimmerz]

Ahhhh, @Hope4Now ! Isn't it so interesting. Just one question from @ghotiff and look at this! I love these little pieces of the puzzle. Not wanting to been seen yourself! That is something that sounds big! Sounds like an issue that needs some thought. Does your inner voice tell you anything about this or whether you are ready for it?

 

[Hashi]

Just a quick response about dissociation and control. I forgot - I've been able to deliberately dissociate since as long as I can remember and I forgot that this isn't necessarily the case for other people. For me, dissociation can be a "I have to have a break from everything" type of coping strategy, and that's what I was referring to.

I do also understand the involuntary "This is a crisis - quick, shutdown, we'll worry about everything else later" sort of dissociation. Apologies, this isn't the sort of dissociation I mean.

I'm sorry for the confusion.

 

[Hope4Now]

@Hashi, I can deliberately dissociate too. Been doing it ever since I can remember. Sometimes it happens involuntarily too, on a lower level. I'm pretty sure that early on I got stuck in that lower level and am just emerging from it. Always thought it was just a normal state of being until the past few months.

See that house as yourself.

@Pencil, I remembered another dream from early this morning. (I only slept for around an hour last night...miserable night). It was in the attic of the house this time. Very interesting what it revealed to me. About as Jungian 101 as you get. It's nice when dreams are so transparent. Actually, I'm just glad I'm starting to remember some of my dreams. I hope this means I am doing some healing!

 

[ghotiff]

Question

When I disassociate I am completely not present and I loose time. That is once I'm back, I have no idea what happened while I was gone.

If you can deliberately disassociate can you then (when in a bad situation) choose to not exist for that time period. I feel that when I disassociate, time stops for me and so while things do happen, they don't happen for me (no knowledge at the time, and no memory after).

 

[Hope4Now]

@ghotiff, I can only answer for myself. My dissociation is in a different place on the spectrum. With some few exceptions (some voluntary, some not), I am conscious of what's happening...kind of like a dual consciousness...even if I can't control it. I do remember it more or less. What you are describing is further along the "continuum" of dissociative behaviors.

 

[shimmerz]

I have co-conscious as well @ghotiff. I can then drop entirely (my who body is in a comatose state). So I move from one into the other or sometimes am just co-conscious @Hope4Now describes.

If you can deliberately disassociate can you then (when in a bad situation) choose to not exist for that time period.

This statement really struck me. Yes, I believe that is exactly what I do. And as I have worked through dissociation I have learned that for myself, I am choosing not to exist. I have caught myself consciously doing so.

 

[ghotiff]

I won't derail this thread anymore...but thanks for the comments. I think I don't yet understand what the spectrum is for disassociation....maybe I do it more often than I thought. I had thought for disassociation you had to 'lose' time, this doesn't happen to me very often.