Gizmo, you are the Opening Poster and can and should define (though I think you did so pretty astutely already when you said, "This is for those of us who do not want to see Hillary as President of the US [snip] This is not a thread for those who support Hillary..." ) exactly what you would like to discuss here.
So I sort of expect this thread to be about 3 pages who will either not want Hillary either, will want to argue for her, or will want to take it off topic. But I'll take off my swami hat and put my crystal ball back in the cupboard.
Having stated my piece about the decision at hand... though Trump be the bird in the bush... I'd rather have him than Ms. Clinton who is incompetent or just plain doesn't think that laws or the security around confidential and above information doesn't apply to her cuz she's "special"... and the other guy's interview and impromptu striptease (not down to the basics but done on stage live during an interview for the presidency and when questioned said it was because he was doing it for a joke for his friends... or some such... well. There you have it peeps. That's your choices.
I'll take the bird in the bush/pig in the poke and hope for the best.
