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Well that's just it, I didn't know she had severe abandonment issues. She never told me at all, and for a long period of time until we started to get close there was no indication whatsoever of any issues. Occasionally she'd take a day or two to respond to a text message and would never make the first move but that was it. I was totally blind-sighted, AFTER I had taken a huge risk in getting intimate with her (which she knew was difficult for me even if she didn't know why), which is the only thing I am upset with her for.

Thank you for the advice about co-dependency. I will look into that, because this seems to follow a pattern. I don't go looking for people with problems to try and "fix" them; I always find out about it later when I already care for them, and then yes co-dependency issues do arise. I seek out relationships that I think will be healthy, but somehow they never are and I don't find out until it's too ate.
 
Sorry, my sentence wasn't clear; I have now edited it. I was wondering why you got involved in this relationship when you yourself have such abandonment issues? The reality is that we all tend to think we can fix things by entering into what we think will be a better relationship, when actually the truth is we have to fix those things inside ourselves. No amount of love from someone in the present will fix why you have abandonment issues from the past. Only you can do that. Apologies for any confusion.
 
You are choosing an unattainable partner in that you know she is going to continue to pull away.
 
I think the girls have given you some very sound and good advice, @Gryffy Having co-dependant relationships are not healthy.

To love another is to trust and to unconditionally give... To love the need to be loved is selfish love and has no trust and could easily be conditional (if she doesn't love me, I won't love her) love.

Work on loving yourself more and you will find the right someone who will stay!
 
Sorry, my sentence wasn't clear; I have now edited it. I was wondering why you got involved in this relationship when you yourself have such abandonment issues? The reality is that we all tend to think we can fix things by entering into what we think will be a better relationship, when actually the truth is we have to fix those things inside ourselves. No amount of love from someone in the present will fix why you have abandonment issues from the past. Only you can do that. Apologies for any confusion.

Thank you. I do see why you'd think that......it's a little different. I didn't really date in high school or college for several reasons, the main one being focused on my work (but grappling with my sexuality and then falling in love with a straight girl didn't help). Love and relationships are an important part of life and I felt lonely and like my growth in that department had been stunted. So I've been making an effort to get out there and date people in the hopes of having that kind of healthy relationship in my life.

During HS/college, even though I didn't "date," I did have two long-distance relationships with people I knew online and talked to every day so we grew close. Both of them had serious personal issues and ended things very abruptly without telling me anything and blocking me out. Maybe part of the initial appeal WAS that they were unattainable, but I realized that that's not what I wanted so I tried dating locally. With most people, there was just no mutual attraction, which is normal. Two people led me on and were rather harsh in kicking me to the curb, and then this girl with PTSD who again abruptly ended things with almost no communication. It's to the point now where even when things seem to be going well, in the back of my mind I still expect to be abandoned, I tell myself that I'm being silly, but then it happens again which reinforces the problem.

It's weird because one part of my brain is sane- on my own, I'm independent and don't have too many confidence issues anymore. I've accomplished a lot that I'm proud of and I've got my life together. However, when people keep leaving you, it creates this other part of your brain that says "you weren't good enough. They weren't willing to try to work through this with you because they didn't think you were worth the effort." Even if they do care, I always end up caring more about them than they do about me (I'm careful not to be clingy, but I do get attached too quickly when I find someone I'm into, which is very rare), and fall into this pattern of putting more into the relationship than they do. Which isn't healthy and I know I need to work on that. At the same time, I still do need to have at least one normal, healthy relationship in my life, so I have to keep trying even though I consistently get hurt. Just the more it happens, the harder it is to recuperate.
 
Question: If people with PTSD are capable of love or loving others and they choose to love themselves instead. Is it a choice or decision to hurt.

I am also referring to intimacy being withheld as a trigger response.
 
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My girlfriend loves me but she has never said it and she might never be able to. She has told me before that there have been times when she has been "terrified" of me for no reason. I went over to her place on Valentine's Day and I could tell she was extremely anxious. She could barely talk to me and she didn't make eye contact at all. It was like this for a couple hours. I know she loves me because if she didn't she would have never allowed me to come over in the first place. There are days when I hardly hear from her at all. Sometimes it spans several days. Inviting me over came at a huge cost to her personally and I am so grateful that she was able to fight through the anxiety because we had a fantastic weekend. PTSD is extremely overwhelming and sometimes she gets triggered and doesn't know why. I don't know if this will help you but I don't believe sufferers withhold intimacy. When you feel like she is withholding intimacy she is more likely dissociating. I don't have the link for that but there is a good post in these forums about it.
 
Mouseshadow, Your girlfriend sounds almost like my friend. The first time she ever apologized for her behavior was, not until she came out of a six-week coma after almost dying in 2012. By that time, we had known each other nine years. The push/pull isolation has continued even after her apology.

PTSD is a lifelong battle. Last week I told her, that privately I have always had some feelings for her, but have always supported her decisions, whatever they were. Because I didn't want to pressure her about anything.
 
A lot of people don't understand how I was with a man for over 2.5 years who never said he loved. The above was familiar. He always tried to show it in little ways. And I knew he loved me, but it didn't keep me from being afraid when he isolated. Now he's been gone almost 8 months and it's taken me so long to accept he isn't coming back this time. It hurts because I know he loved me as much as he was capable.

The closer we would get, every advancement in us led to an isolation episode. I wish I had handled the last one better and I wish he had ended it with me instead of just avoid it and walk away. But, I guess that's not that unusual with PTSD.

I do have a better grasp of PTSD now, but it is so hard not to take it personally when the person you adore most in the world ignores you. I wish I had been stronger. I wish he had trusted me a little more. I know loving someone did trigger him. Or more when he thought he'd let me down. I think now that love in general is a trigger for him.

I don't know where I was going with this now, the post above by mouseshadow just touched me. I wish I hadn't need more verbal reassurance. I wish my own issues hadn't caused me to be so fearful of getting hurt again.
 
Bewitched, you are guilty of being human. I am headed down the same path with my girlfriend. I know she really wants us to work but she has to take care of herself first and it will always be that way. I took her shopping for Valentine's Day. I bought her a coat,dress, two pair of boots and a nice necklace. She was very excited and happy. Unfortunately that may have overstimulated her and she has had a rough week after. I have hardly heard from her and it's been difficult. It's two steps forward and one step back. I'm going into this with my eyes open knowing my fate may be the same as yours because even if you were the perfect supporter it may have not been enough. The reward is worth the risk and either way I will come out of this a better man.
 
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