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What To Do When Disbelieved?

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Beaglefan61

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not sure why writing. nearly no hope left. disbelieved about something so much that the pain from that has kept me stuck in pain. it was a very very unlikely event. the person with whom it happened will not corroborate it. can i get through trauma alone? hurting all the time. worn down day by day. tired, so tired hard to function at all. situation so unlikely can't expect many to believe. what do i do? sorry if sound bleak at all. things are bleak and i am giving up day by day. the fight for life is being snuffed out. i am too alone in my pain and stuck there. hurts to talk about what happened as each time i do out of 8 or 9 it seems one half believes me, so it is just more hurt from trying. try to forget, but the feelings stay. feeling me slip away day by day leaving a ghost with no hope and no desire and no care for others. what do i do when disbelieved? i have tried so so hard and am stuck. i am hurting and the pain withers me to where i can do nothing.
 
not sure why writing. nearly no hope left. disbelieved about something so much that the pain from...
I'm sorry you are hurting so much, I'm sorry no one believes you, I'm sorry you feel this way. All I can say is ashenI tried to tell my parents numerous times and I wasn't listened to either. I then masse made the choice to fight for me.
I hope that you maybe have at least 1 person who believes you. It may be a therapist, but I tell you that it does wonders to get it all out and have them listen to And believe you. ;)

People here are wonderful at listening, understanding, supporting, and helping eachother through rough times. I hope you find what you need to help you in your time of need too. ;):hug: Raven
 
not sure why writing. nearly no hope left. disbelieved about something so much that the pain from...

I have encountered many situations in which I was not believed. People trying to mow me down with their cars, not being believed. Gang stalked for over 7 years, not being believed, harassed by male and female predators, not being believed.

And then after studying up on that I found out something: the ones that do not believe either have a stake in keeping such lies going (often because they themselves have committed such crimes), or they would be in prison themselves if they could be linked to illegal activities.

The people that disbelieve me are sexually abusing their own kids, the people that do not believe me sleep around with everyone, the people that do not believe me are engaging in criminal activities.

All I am saying is this: no worries if criminals do not believe you....
 
We who have been disbelieved, believe you!! I am currently experiencing "third party abuse" bc my abuser is very cunning and deceptive. So, he keeps his hands clean to avoid trouble with the law or exposure to the outside world that he is an evil freaking abuser. My therapist thinks i am imagining stuff due to my "fear", and denies that this is going on. She says the incidents i report are coincidental or random and i attach meaning to them bc i am fearful. BUT, we who have been stalked/abused/preyed upon know otherwise. At least, I know my opponent well (i was married to him for 30 years) and i have many encounters with people every day, most of which seem legit. So, i can tell when i have a "random" encounter bc they leave their "calling card". I guess he wants me to "know" i am being watched/stalked. I try to look at it as a "game" of spy vs spy in order to find some humor in his retarded game. LOL
 
No one believed me either. When I was a teenager I started telling people what was happening in my house. Those people would then go to my mother and tell her what I had said. Of course she would make me out to be crazy.

It wasn't until I had a really good therapist and he asked me why it was so important that people believed me. We discussed the issues, but in the end, I decided that it really wasn't important if anyone believed me or not. It was MY trauma, something I WENT through, and no one else would or could possibly understand, so I stopped telling.

It's only here on this website that others understand. So this is where I vent and tell.....
 
Sadly narcissists are good at pretending to be normal in front of "key people." My brother had my parents fooled for many years. (Or so I thought) When I called him out, my mother's exact words were, yes hes a narcissist, he's always been! (then why didn't she listen to me when I tried to tell her?!!!) Sigh... all we can do is keep speaking up or they keep getting away with it. Stay strong! ❤:hug::hug:
 
This is long. My apology as there is an unusual story behind it all. If you make it through, maybe you will understand WHY people are having a hard time believing.

Thank you all for the responses. The last couple of days i went through a ton of feelings. Sadly, i am less caring and feel less connected to others because of the terms of it. This hurts my life as i moved to where what happen did happen because for years i was wanting to get to a U.S state that actually believes in mental health care. I have a masters in psychology. My disconnecting from others or not caring has consequences to my career choices. Not only that, it feels better to help make someones day be a better day and do that not because of some hero complex or some covert narcissism motive of being seen as a 'good guy'. It just had felt better in the past to help a frown become a smile. It just felt better inside regardless of if the other person thought better of me or not. Even doing something anonymously had the same result . . .and i am losing that step by step. I am fighting hard against it, but i am losing because of the terms. I have been alone in a truth of one, left stranded. I am detaching from care of others too much.

Sadly, the circumstance itself is so surreal that people don't believe it. Okay, this is where i may lose some of you and that will hurt. This is what i go through. I am left alone in a truth. Saw something one expert put about 'healing from ptsd requires others believing us'. For those of you who have gone through disbelief, i am sorry as i now know too well how much that hurts.

The circumstance?

Years ago someone pulled out a Playboy magazine that had some picture of some amazing looking woman. Okay, i am a guy so couldn't help but appreciate the pretty face and outrageous body. There was something else though. The facial expressions really got to me! They were extraordinary. Some years back i wrote the playmate and after writing her i got a couple of long distance phone calls when at work. I had no idea of who could have been calling from that city. There were years of synchronicity that happened that had me wonder if something more was supposed to happen. Some was outrageous. I mean like being in her home country and and being in a town nearly 500,000 and talking to one person there while there. The person said her sister was in the states now, on the other side of the camera flying coast to coast, but said something about her age that struck me as odd. I had this image of the playmate come to mind for some reason. Years later i found she was from this town and has four brothers. There is more below i will say on that, something important.

I moved to a place where for years there was no way to contact me, but moved to a different state and was finally more in the open. Finally after all the outrageous synchronicity was less than my level of fatigue, i posted on my facebook about the playmate. A few days later i joined a dating site and there was someone on the site who i thought looked like her. Looked up the screen name and she had also joined an adult based dating site. I started dissociating. A wrote something about that on my facebook and after a few weeks something unusual happened.

I was at a store and went back in to look at something. On my way out i saw a woman who was coming in. She had a coat on with a hood and the hood was covering her face. For some reason, she was looking at me with one eye peering out of the hood. The store was warm inside. I wondered if maybe someone a bit Schizoid personality who was afraid of people, but why then wasn't she walking away? Why was she walking right toward me instead? She got close and slowed down, then stopped before me. I began to look under the hood and she looked up and the hood fell. GUESS WHAT? It was not the woman from the dating site. It didn't just look like the playmate. IT WAS HER! Her face went from expressionless and a bit stunned at the hood falling into a mixture of pained relief and appreciation that was like no other expression i had ever seen. I stood looking aghast at her for a moment. In the same city? HOW??? There was something like a flash and i remember vaguely walking to my car and don't remember the next 6 or 7 hours. It was the only time loss i ever had in my life. I posted in a haze on my facebook about the woman with honest eyes and a sincere expression on her face. The next morning there was this phone call: "That was ME in the store". *click* The voice sound was angry, yet the type of anger that has a huge amount of hurt under it.

My mind struggled with it and i put 'oh was that her in the store?' on my facebook. I was still in shock though. Part of me was hurting beyond belief that the woman i had been concerned about for years i walked away from. I tried to talk to others. Responses? Oh you saw someone else that looked like her but so much wanted it to be her that you saw her in your mind. Oh, you were stressed and it was an hallucination. Yeah folks, a hallucination that makes phone calls! I was being ripped away from what i knew and fell into psychosis.

During this there were those who simply did not want her around and they said some pretty vulgar things about her. Do you know what happens to someone who is in psychosis when you provoke them? Yeah, i went on a rant on Facebook. Okay, so how would you feel if people only liked you for your body and one lone voice actually writes asking about your heart and when he finally talks about you, you go to meet him and he walks away? Then he says vulgar stuff about you on Facebook? That itself is a trauma. I remember things i said. OUCHHHHH. I have had flashbacks about things i said to her.

In concern when i fought to get to a better place, i went onto some people search site. Looked her up and found one listing i had never seen before in the city from which i had those phone calls after i first wrote her. There was something about the age that was the same as what the brother in that city of 500,000 said. When looking the name online i found one listing that i looked up and found my jaw dropping. The picture looked just like who? THE WOMAN FROM THE GROCERY STORE!

There were some indications she may have looked in on my facebook since, but not so many of late. I pleaded for corroboration of what happened at the store, but none has come. Many have disbelieved.

Part of me is still in that store, in a state of shock. Part of me is in a horror of pain talking saying things of a psychotic mind under the wrong influence seeing what i am saying while yet another part of me was saying "no you walked away don't say that about her you will hurt her!!!!!!!!!!". I ended up in the ER because of the guilt of things i said. I walked away from her leaving her hurt for having believed in the person who cared enough to write her in concern. Then i ranted against her. ouch

My psych nurse diagnosed psychosis SECONDARY to trauma, the trauma coming first. My therapist was never convinced fully it wasn't just some hallucination. I have lost many people. With some, maybe i was better off as some of those who were the ones provoking against her. At the end of the day, i have gone through too many feelings far too alone and the trauma of being disbelieved for this ever happening has been incredible.

She is not a better person for having believed and showing up to be left stranded then attacked in word. I am a worse person for having gone through tons of pain being disbelieved and am disconnecting. My faith in God is shot as so much of the synchronicity i thought a sign from God. There were other things as outrageous as that thing where the only person i talked to in a city of nearly 500k people was her brother, so my faith in God is beyond shaken. It is broken. My ability to care for others i fight desperately to keep, but i am losing the war. I have such a need to be held as a bawl my heart out for how this all went and be believed. To have cared about someone and it to have hurt both her and me has been terrible. So many pulling away and leaving me alone has hurt.

And i don't know how many here will simply think me crazy for what i say. I put this here as i am drowning and the last gasp of air is already gone. I am taking water in my lungs and desperately need someone to breath a bit of air in. I am losing faith in God for having believed. i am losing faith and care of people. I don't care much about afterlife or heaven or hell anymore. I just want to save any care i have of others without that care just being some act to impress others. I don't care to impress others that way. It being less sincere care, i simply don't care to give much at all now. I am losing the war. I am losing care for life. I am losing care for others.

I don't much believe in prayer anymore, but if anyone can pray i would appreciate it. The problem in so much of this is that two needed others to make the needed difference. Instead, others did not help or made things worse. I am not sure about her friends, but none of them had the ethics to say 'hey dude i'll confirm what happened just don't tell her i did so' if she was too much in shock herself to say a thing. Maybe she was too numbed to confirm things herself. All but two of my friends made things worse. Sometimes in life we need others to bridge the gap and be peacemakers and healers and this was sorely lacking.

Is there compassion out there? Is there room for belief in things which seem implausible, but actually happen? Is there reason to care? will care just lead to pain? If this sounds at all melodramatic for how i put things, i am sorry. Typing this is nearly like bleeding through my fingertips. I am hurting badly. I am fighting with my last to not give up on other people. I am hoping someone she knows will help her in ways she comes to be a more healed person, yet if she is not talking about what happened when i am trouble my hope of that seems vain. Why would she have flippin' showed up at all if she had the right people in her life? She wouldn't have remembered so well a couple of letters asking "how are you? I was concerned you were being hurt".

Thank you for all who replied. If you just think i am crazy, you can get on the band wagon with that. It is a crowded bandwagon full of people who were willing to disbelieve yet not try to help either of two who were hurting. For any who don't jump on that bandwagon, thank you. I am more broken than i can say. . . . all for having cared . . . . and not being able to stop when it really counted.

I feel stupid for even putting this here. It is like the last gasp of someone who is really desperate. Can you see how a few might disbelieve? Can you see where that has led to much pain? What do i do now? I have no good answers to that anymore.

Oh, it was on that people search engine where i also found that my current address and current phone number are clearly listed, thus me understanding how she could have followed me from where i live to the store. I wish anyone she had known had said 'please don't say such things about her' when i was so far gone, but they didn't. I don't understand much anything anymore except i hurt and certainly must have hurt her. Even a couple of things from the past that i had stumbled over ended up being directed at her and i am sick to my soul as i have never been before.
 
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I'm so sorry that you are hurting so much and that you feel all hope is gone, but I can say from experience that there is still hope and help out there. One thing I can say is if your T doesn't believe / won't listen, can't help you then you need to keep looking until you find one who can. There are tons of T's out there and you need to find one who fits your need and who you feel comfortable with. Don't give up hope, it's really what keeps us all going. Hang in there. :shy:
 
Thank you RavenGirl. Yes, i am hurting. it has been hard in that there has been more effort in trying to be believed as there has been in any actual healing. The hurts from disbelief has made things horrible. My old T was maybe trying to find too too many ways to disbelieve. More effort was spent on trying to convince her of the truth than what was gotten from any healing. I got more tired for even trying! That is the way most of this has gone. My nurse practitioner, who is extremely adept with psychotic disorders, considered me to be psychosis SECONDARY to ptsd, the precipitating event being the thing in the store and then my meltdown and outburst against the woman who was there. She listened and went with symptoms enough to be able to tell the difference! I have lost her also though. At one point i mentioned to her about being sore about anyone the playmate knows not being willing to say the truth and leaving someone doubted and hurt for even trying to tell the truth. She said it was "inhumane" to leave someone doubted for the truth. If a friend of mine was not saying the truth and the another person had their life on the line about it, you bet i would say something! It is called doing the right thing and if the friend was too upset to know the difference it would be my job to. It is being responsible as a human being! I seriously worry about this woman's friends! Of my therapist i can say, anyone who tries to find ways to disbelieve? They will. Just because something is uncommon doesn't mean it didn't happen. Where does that leave me though? It has been hard to not give up hope. When i am reassigned a new therapist as the old one is going out, i hope i don't have to jump up and down screaming the truth for any sense of belief. That is when it causes more harm than does any good. It also leaves me angrier at the playmate, which i don't think will help anything as what is really best if for ALL to heal in ways needed. I appreciate your comfort and hope you are right about there being hope. I hope something very unlikely happening won't be my doom, all for having cared in the first place and believing in God that maybe something would come that was healing to the woman about it rather than something to where too many other hands left it being something twisted. I had my own stuff i needed to get out before this came up sure, but i tried at least as hard as i could and a few tried as hard as they could to make things worse because they make things worse as a usual way of doing things. Beware your influences! If keeping too many around who squabble and degrade others on petty meaningless crap will they be the best influence when something major comes up? Um, NO. I hope your hope is good hope that things will get better and things can end up okay. Mine is running out and many may not know all the old stuff i have face and all the efforts i have tried to face so many fronts so this wouldn't twist me into being a worse person - one who would either say ugly things when not in psychosis or one who simply walks away leaving someone in pain. Talking from a surreal land wondering how this all happened, Beagle, with thanks.

Correcting one line: People who squabble and degrade others on meaningless crap will NOT be the best influence when something important happens.
 
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She said it was "inhumane" to leave someone doubted for the truth. If a friend of mine was not saying the truth and the another person had their life on the line about it, you bet i would say something! It is called doing the right thing and if the friend was too upset to know the difference it would be my job to. It is being responsible as a human being! I seriously worry about this woman's friends!

If they're counseling her to stay far, far away from an unstable & obsessed fan, I'd say they're probably just fine.

For the love of Mike. Why on earth are you angry at her & her friends? A guy she met on a dating site and bumped into at a grocery store has gone into psychosis-fueled stalker-mode and you think they owe you something? That they are the reason you're not together? :confused: Please tell me that the hope you keep referencing isn't hope that you can be a part of this woman's life?
 
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