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Who Would I Be If I Gave Up Lying?

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Wow Ms Spock. I realize now mwe share an uncanny array of experiences, feelings. It makes me sick to think how many like us there must be. Parents begin a cycle of secrets, fear, mistrust, deep tortures or the body & mind. Somehow it seems we find ourselves in repeat situations. I wish I knew why. If you find it, drop me a line.
 
@cactus_jack - there are times to be strategic and keep ourselves safe - I don't know your situation but it sounds wise to me.

@tripitena can you say a bit more about what you mean please? I think I understand but I am not really sure. Some answers grow and change with the days - some days I have more understanding and insight than others.
 
I would be a very simple and plain person indeed. I am not lying as much, but I think about lying so I don't feel so ashamed. I think about lying in order to ward off shame.
 
I am either brutally honest - which is generally not appreciated or - in another space. I have improved a lot. I really have improved a lot. I am not blabbing as much. I am also holding my own counsel at times, something like emotional maturity.
 
Anxious is what I feel. I feel terribly anxious! If I don't say what I think people want to hear. I feel very anxious. It is tough going. I am doing it though. I thought getting better would mean feeling better, but no it is not working out that way for me.

I am doing so much better with this stuff. I am really being brave. I am working on it.
 
I don't know if I believe you Alba, sorry, but this feeling shit is really hard going.

I have held it together today, but it has been so hard.

I went to my graduation and I asked a woman if she could take a photo of me to send to my friends. She said to me that I might want to smile, to show I was happy. I almost started crying, and a little later I almost started sobbing. But I pulled a cheesy fake smile out and smiled. I didn't like that photo. It was so fake. I don't want to be fake anymore. I really don't. I also can't tear up and cry in public, and I can't sob my guts out in public. So I struggle. I am struggling. I did jump on my distorted cognitions. I did it repeatedly. It was hard. I was upset. I didn't want to go. But I went anyway. I had to put up with other people's passive agressive, and selfish behaviours. I went for Radical Acceptance - of course it was the way it was. So I did that. And I did it again and again. Of course X was being passive aggressive, by turning up late when I was anxious about another person not turning up at all, and of course P went off, after announcing it was a better offer on Facebook, to another thing that was happening, of which, I am part of. I am embarrassed. I fully expect P to turn up tonight, so that will be more Radical Acceptance. Of course he is like that. Radical Acceptance.

It does illustrate to me clearly that I am not training people up to treat me that well. I am teaching people to use me, like I was trained by my parents to let them use me as well. So it was a real learning experience.

The other thing was that I got so upset about it I didn't arrange for other people to come, as I was so ashamed that I was rejected. My feelings of abandomment and rejection took over. I didn't even get close to thinking about other people coming until today, when I started to accept it. I was scared people would only come if they felt sorry for me. That they would feel compelled to say yes, even when they meant no. I just couldn't risk being rejected again I guess and I went into a big emotion about it all.

I didn't lie to myself today. I was upset, and I was unhappy. And I let myself have my feelings, it was hard to be truthful with myself, but I did it, and eventually the thing shifted a little. And then I wasn't so sad and upset.
 
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First, congratulations on your graduation! You worked hard for that and its a big accomplishment.

Second, I wish people weren't so complicated!
It does illustrate to me clearly that I am not training people up to treat me that well
I don't know if that assessment is accurate or not. What I do know is that it touches on a place where 'radical acceptance' gets complicated, at least for me. I'm inclined to think that it means that I just have to accept what ever happens because it is what is, no matter what. I'm not sure that's correct.

I was a member of a board where 'passive aggressive' was the order of the day. I decided to start calling people out for that kind of behavior, because it's not useful behavior. It was an interesting experience. I guess I used radical acceptance when it came to the results, because you can't control the results. You CAN be clear about how you want to be treated and you can select many the people in your life based on how they treat you.

You deserve to be treated well! I'm sorry that day wasn't one of uncomplicated joy! But I admire your determination and how you keep learning and growing. You're one of the most amazing people I know!
 
First, congratulations on your graduation! You worked hard for that and its a big accomplishment.
Thanks it is huge for me. Even going to the graduation ceremony was huge for me. It was such a big deal to invite people and turn up. I am exhausted.

I guess I used radical acceptance when it came to the results, because you can't control the results. You CAN be clear about how you want to be treated and you can select many the people in your life based on how they treat you.
Oh that person is definitely on his way out. I am not going to cut him abruptly or anything, but I won't be making any thing but the required social gestures to maintain the social glue in this social network. He will be phased out. I just gave him a year and a half support after he attempted suicide, but he is stable now - and if issues arise he will need to get professional health. I have done my dash, and that is that. I thought another person was copping out when he said that to me, but it is reality. So really it simplifies things for me quite a bit, so that clears all that up.

As for my family it turns out 1000 kilometres is really not enough. But that is okay. I made it clear anything my Mother tries to send me is to be checked for money, for my sister to keep it or the iTunes card today - my sister is to keep it - and for card/etc to be binned. She was okay with that. Her behaviours are very challenging at times, and I don't think she is aware enough of her behaviours to challenge it or discuss it. So who the f*ck knows how I will manage that - very few sporadic visits with lots of cards and presents in the mail - and texts and not phone conversations. I get so destabilised and triggered after speaking to her on the phone.

For my partner I am having a range of feelings and at some point we need to have a talk, but I am in no fit space to do that at this time.

The one good thing about all this is I didn't become highly reactive, I didn't act out, I didn't lash out, I didn't even really binge eat or comfort eat - well lunch was a bit too much - but still an overall improvement in all the categories that I have been aiming for improvement in. I even doubted my self less. I wasn't mostly dissociated, depersonalised, or derealised. I was mostly there. I wasn't happy, but I was there in my mostly not happy state, and for a bit I came out of it. So that is progress.


You deserve to be treated well! I'm sorry that day wasn't one of uncomplicated joy! But I admire your determination and how you keep learning and growing.
Thanks that feels embarrassing - but it is true I am a hard worker. It was a bit of a shitty low level type of day. But it was okay as well. There were some good moments. Papa Bear really appreciated the ceremony and he was so proud of me.

B made effort to be supportive, proud and admiring of me.
 
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I agree and relate to so much of this. Lying has been a way of protection, safety. I too grew up in an environment where it was life or death depending on what my answers and what my truth would be. I carried that into my adult life into my relationships and I have messed up a lot because of it, but no one really understood why I was like that. I still struggle today with that especially with my family but I have made way more strides at being honest with myself first and foremost, and slowly being more honest with others about how I feel, what my needs are..the truth about anything. It's inconsistent and I have set backs all the time, but just know that while it is scary to let go of that, you can make small baby steps. Be easy on yourself. We all know what you're going through.
 
Congrats on graduating @Disco Dancing Queen :D

have a habit of lying automatically to simple questions either to avoid embarrassment or to get people off my back - all my perception of course
I'm a supporter and my sufferer seems to really struggle with lying, especially little lies like @Suzetig mentioned here. When y'all were first starting to want to tell the truth and be truthful, was it helpful for people to acknowledge your lies or point them out to you when it happened? Or did that just make the urge worse.
 
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