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Why Do You Perpetuate And Reinforce The Belief That There Is No Cure For PTSD?

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Why do you perpetuate and reinforce the belief that there is no cure for PTSD when that simply isn't true?

Why do you go out of your way to prevent people from talking about this and preventing real information from getting to the people on this forum?

These are very legitimate questions that need real answers, especially in this forum.
This is not spam. This is asking why legitimate information is being suppressed here.
 
Maybe because to date there is no known cure for PTSD. This is medical fact not fiction, apart from the theories that hypnosis and some so called brain training techniques being thrown about, this is how it is for now. Even the psychologists and therapists still struggle with ways to help and support their patients.

It changes the way the brain functions, and as no one know as yet knows how to reverse this change, there is only recovery and management.

This is not just fantasy it is fact. There maybe are way's to subdue the impact of PTSD, but unfortunately these are not cures as such, it will still resurface eventually. If there were then many thousands of sufferers would not be suffering now. They would all be living normal everyday lives without all the issues that PTSD throws at them day in, dat out.

The person who does find a cure, will be famous all over the world instantly. This forum is only one place anyone connected to PTSD can find help, support, advice and infromation, they do this by lack of choice of other places out there, who give true and up to date infomation.

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I hate to sound like a "nay-sayer", because terrific progress is possible, as is management of ptsd symptoms.

That being said however, all I am seeing here is a person advocating (their own?- please correct me if I'm wrong) "techniques"; you will certainly understand my position (more so if I may take the liberty of speaking up for 'us' out there): PTSD kills- all too frequently, -and it frequently kills through denial and/ or endless "attempts' to block out the pain and symptoms (that "shouldn't be there" were it curable).

You've given your opinion: let others determine what they think for themselves. People are not "brain-washed" here; many of us have lived, struggled, survived and thrived- all in turn, with the management of PTSD symptoms for decades.

As a Mental Health Professional, you certainly must be aware that the efficacy of any treatment must be guaged over time; it's been my experience that one can even go years without major issues only to be knocked off their feet so hard it's a miracle they survive. Does that make treatment "ineffective"? -Of course not. But there's not a high rate of morbidity for nothing.

Thank you for your perspective and please accept mine with all due respect. JMHO.
 
That is your belief, not fact. So what you are saying is that brain changes state from an emotional trauma, you don't know how or why it does this, but it can't be changed back? How odd?

There are people in the Psychiatrist and Psychologist community that have known about how to get rid of this since 1995, yet in 2010 you people are still making this claim. Why would that be?

So what about the people who are changed and the past trauma doesn't affect them any more, that go on to a normal life? How do you expain that? That isn't therory, that is reality.

Funny I do this on a regular basis and no one wants to hear about it. How odd is that? There was someone on here yesterday talking about how to get rid of PTSD and you quickly deleted the theads. Rather than make these people famous you immediatly get rid of that information. So much for your theory of instant world fame.

Lots of people don't want this information out there for various reasons.

I know for a fact that the emotional effects of PTSD are reversable and that it is done because I do it. This isn't some therory, this is reality.
 
Hello larry.d,

When I see professionals on the forum as professionals (vs. being a professional who is a carer/sufferer) I always wonder about their motivation for being here. I note you say you are a mental health professional but I am wondering what that means. Are you a licensed and trained professional? If so I would be interested to hear your practice background, credentials and training. You also mentioned an "energy therapy." What therapy is it? If we knew more it may be of help to some of us on the forum and this would give you more credibility. I am always interested in hearing more about possible ways to help my PTSD and related issues but I don't see anything in your posts describing how you accomplish the "cure."

GDF
 
Yes sorry larry.d, to be honest, the tone of your posts gives me the impression of being both defensive and inflammatory. Mind you, much can be misinterpreted over the Internet.
If you conceived my response in that way, I hope you are aware that it certainly wasn't my intent.

Perhaps as others have mentioned, it would be more profitable to spend more time presenting your results as opposed to defending why they 'may' not be accepted. After all, 'alternative explanations' and questions are just the essence of (good) science itself; one would feel the facts would/ should withstand all scrutiny, if there is substantial basis to them.
 
I most certainly do not have the expertise needed to seriously address this question, but I can't help thinking that given the continuing failures in diagnosis and given that it has not been all that long that abundant and sustained research attention has been devoted to recognizing, understanding, and finding treatments for PTSD, it does seem premature to say it can't be cured. Do we even know that it never has been cured? I also think it is plausible that if the brain can be altered by trauma, it can be changed again by treatment.

Maybe we need stronger evidence that PTSD cannot be cured before we are willing to accept the potentially self-defeating claim that it cannot be.

But, again, my knowledge is very limited.
 
Larry, i percieve that you have your soapbox in place here....speak now, or forever relinquish your IP address?

Are you going to ask for payment up front before you cast your pearls?

Why not let the proof be in the pudding?......before the snake oil is injected?

I swear I've researched to the ends of the earth and never heard anything so brash proposed by anyone whose opinion could be backed up by fact!
 
Hi Larry,

You're coming onto this forum and advertising yourself / the technique you use. Your not coming on here with actual provable facts outlining a cure. The evidence is already posted around this forum, the science is currently still in place, that no cure exists for post traumatic stress disorder. Treatment and cure are two very different things. The psychiatric community agrees as a majority with the evidence based science of the brain... no actual cure exists. They can treat the stigma of the trauma, negative emotional distress can be removed from past trauma... but none of this is a cure for the actual physiological change that takes place between the right and left brain hemispheres.

You're coming on this forum to market a technique / yourself. Do you honestly think that this forum is not already aware of every technique in the field? One technique is not a solution or cure to PTSD because you say it is. Science has the facts, not you, I or another person here. This forum is not based on the typical nonsense that other forums may allow... being misinformation. We outline the facts. As the facts change or new developments occur, then we outline them. To date... still no cure actually exists. Right now, the current focus is upon brain cell regrowth which may present a possible future cure for many mental health issues, though again, they don't have the full facts on whether it provides a majority result to state a cure. Still in development, and far surpassing your technique that you try and market.

How you approach this forum is everything, as to whether you get banned or not. Try and market yourself / a technique, you get banned. Discuss it, answer questions and don't come on here in an attacking method, and everything will be fine. My sister-in-law went and did a few week course on brain retraining, a type of hypnotherapy / turning negative behaviours to positive, blah blah blah. Literally a few weeks and she got a certificate, then thought she was going to change the world with this life coaching technique / trauma skill. The only thing she discovered was that she wasted more money on total nonsense because she thought she could just change a rape victims trauma in a few sessions if she followed this outline. All total nonsense and a scam at best, as the only people making money are the trainers from the suckers taking such courses.

More studies are now finding that the DSM is wrong with time based assessment. The symptoms of post traumatic stress more often than not surpass the theoretical timelines for diagnosis, yet PTSD actually isn't present, only ASD. When people seek help, they get a half arsed diagnosis of PTSD when they actually have ASD, then seek professional help and come out absolutely fine. That is the exact and expected result of ASD, as it is completely curable, in the sense that treatment removes all issues. PTSD... absolute, scientifically proven, not the case.

Please outline your science based facts with credible references, as has already been outlined here over the years about the fact PTSD is not curable. A website endorsing your technique is not credible. I am talking mental health journals. I am not talking about the effectiveness of a technique either... as I do not dismiss that many techniques are very effective for the treatment of trauma, as this is fact. They do not cure PTSD though, again fact. Please provide such evidence before attempting to argue the promotion of your technique.

This forum is nearly 5 years online, and we've heard it all. Your not going to introduce anything new... just do a search and you will find your technique here already. Again, discussion is one thing, pushing / marketing yourself or a technique is another for self gain / purpose. Not acceptable here as this is a community, not a promotional tool.
 
So let me get this straight. A new guy shows up, claiming to be a mental health professional...puts up a couple of posts with an inflammatory and accusing tone, claiming he regularly cures people of their PTSD but offers no data - just the word of a total stranger - and I'm supposed to BELIEVE him?!? :rolleyes:

Dude, I don't buy it...ANY of it. And if you want credibility to eventually share your information with us, quit acting like an angry conspiracy theorist in your posts, and approach this community with the professionalism you claim to have.

Good grief.
 
Hi Larry,

I'm in the midst of flight travel at the moment though will respond tomorrow. Could u please pm me your psychiatric degree thanks for verifation as a qualified mental health physician please, as your response seems very angry. Thanks.
 
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