Why Do You Perpetuate And Reinforce The Belief That There Is No Cure For PTSD?

[Nicolette]

Larry - the lowest form of defence is attack which is all I can see in your last post. Nothing of a professional nature!

 

[cherryblossom]

I also see alot of attacking behaviour, but no substance to back up your argument. Give me some statistics about the people with PTSD who you have cured. I'm always willing to listen to a good discussion, yet I see nothing but self promotion, based on nothing.

Larry, give us the honest facts.

 

[larry.d]

Well if you're going to keep deleting my replies to make it look like I'm not answering, more power to you! You don't want answers. You don't want the truth. This is just a power trip for you. I wrote a long reply last night and posted it here. You deleted it.

 

[AthenaErdmann]

Larry,

Before you assume that someone is deleting your posts – did you check that your long post actually became visible on the forum? If not, please read the forum FAQ about “Your Internet Connection - Losing Your Writing”, and remember that there are many pieces of computer and network software between your computer and this forum. Long posts run a real risk of being lost due to Web browser, operating system, or Internet connection problems, none of which have anything to do with this forum and which the forum's admins cannot influence in any way.

I deemed this post of mine likely to become a longish one, so I wrote it in a word processor and saved it as a file locally, so if something goes wrong in the posting, I don't have to rewrite everything. You can take that as a friendly suggestion.

About the issue itself:

From what I have observed, the growth of the medical body of knowledge quite often follows this type of a trajectory for an issue:

• descriptions and observations of a problem, which is deemed to me medical in nature and which may or may not be a new phenomenon (e.g. some women die of childbed fever soon after giving birth)
• hypotheses – quite often more than one - about what causes the problem (e.g. breathing night air, wrong diet prior to giving birth, sin, wrong position while giving birth, “something” that causes the disease moves from an already ill person to a healthy one, the evil eye...)
• more or less thoroughly tested suggestions for a cure - usually more than one (e.g. Ignaz Semmelweis' systematic observations that mortality from childbed fever goes down from 10-35% to under 1%, if midwives and doctors wash their hands with a solution of chlorinated lime when they move from one maternity ward patient to another)
• isolation of and proof for at least one cause of the problem (e.g. Louis Pasteur's observation of that bacteria exist and are connected to illness)
• connection between cause and cure (repeated statistical proof through controlled tests that bacteria X causes a certain type of childbed fever and that antibiotic Y kills bacteria X effectively enough to cure that type of childbed fever, both in petri dishes and in real patients)

Based on the above and if I am not grossly mistaken, to convince any person who is capable of critical thought, you need to at least establish the following:

• what hypothesis of the cause of PTSD the treatment/cure you advocate is based on
• what objective, peer-reviewed, widely enough published research results exist that support that hypothesis for the cause
• what the main components of the treatment/cure you suggest are (described in enough detail)
• how those components of that treatment/cure are related to the proposed cause of PTSD
• what objective, peer-reviewed, widely enough published research results exist that have sought to measure the effectiveness of that treatment/cure for PTSD
• what objective, peer-reviewed, widely enough published research results exist that have sought to measure the ineffectiveness and/or unwelcome side-effects of that treatment/cure, if it is used for PTSD

My credentials? Both parents - though they sucked as parents - were capable medical clinicians and researchers and good teachers, and I was and still am quite interested in their work. Also, I graduated with a nurse's degree and worked in the field 1983-1987, before I discovered computers.

Athena

 

[catjudo]

Larry--
You needn't continue to post the same lengthy, inflammatory, argumentative post. It has not been deleted, merely temporarily placed in moderation. The language and attitude of the post comes across as hostile and argumentative, which violates forum policy. Rather than deleting, it has been placed in moderation so that anthony may make a decision about whether to let it be posted as is, edit it to make it compliant with forum policy, or delete it. As he is currently traveling and tending to personal, family issues your post is not his top priority at the moment. You must be patient.

 

[Andre]

Lets see here Larry you've provided no real information on anything, continue making claims of "suppression", and under all that are attempting to define yourself as instantly persecuted for bringing a "cure" you probably want $19.95 for (with one-time special offer of two for just the price of shipping and handling). Go peddle your stuff somewhere else crackpot (and be glad they don't allow extensive cursing on this forum).