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Spucky

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Hello,
I am a 61 year old woman. As a small child I was physically and psychologically abused by my father - a WWII and Korean War vet. He had physical and emotional injuries, and eventually died from the physical effects at age 74. My parents were divorced when I was very young. My mother remarried to another WWII vet who also had the physical/emotional injuries. He was in and out of VA hospitals. He was drug/alcohol addicted. He also abused me physically, emotionally and sexually.

When a teenager, I decided to get out of my mess of a family and made a life for myself. I have a master's degree and have been professionally employed all of my life. As many survivors of abuse do, I packed up the trauma and stashed it away. I practiced avoidance of anything to do with veteran's, military, etc.

I work in hospice. Hospice does some work with veteran's, but I'm on the admin side of things. Last week my boss called a meeting because she had been to a conference on veteran's issues. She gave us a veteran's website to look at before the meeting. I looked at the website and basically it freaked me out reading about veteran's with PTSD, etc. I sent my boss an email telling her in general terms about father/stepfather and that I felt I could not attend the meeting. She wrote back with a rather vague response, indicating I had to go to the meeting. I asked her to please clarify, and she told me she expected me at the meeting.

About 10 minute into the meeting, she started talking about how some people grew up in military families, but she didn't. She then spoke about her experience with vets with PTSD in emergency rooms. She then asked me about local community groups working with vets. This has nothing to do with my job or my life. I told her I knew nothing about anything to do with vets. I was shaking badly at this point and she told me to leave the meeting. As soon as I stepped out of the meeting I had a complete meltdown and ended up in the ladies room, on the floor, sobbing. Nothing like this has ever happened to me before at work or anywhere else, since childhood.

A coworker helped me and she was so upset by what happened she went to HR. HR was kind and apparently talked to my boss. My boss followed up with me by telling me I should not have sent her an email about this - although she has created a culture of communicating with us only by email. She turned it all around and made it my fault. She told me other people had stress and triggers and have to deal with it. The next day, we had our regular meeting and she told me that she wasn't firing me, but I should look for another job. My performance evals have always been good. My boss had issues with all the other managers, and vice presidents throughout the organization. She is basically disliked by everyone.

So, here I am at 61 looking for another job in this terrible economy. I'm going to find a therapist, but that means I will be on the hook for all the co-pays. I seriously thinking about finding an attorney, but don't know if I should.

Right now, I'm just looking for a bit of support and validation. My son, sister (much younger) and friends don't know about my history or this event, so I can't turn to them.

Thank you!
Spucky
 
Welcome Spucky. I'm sorry that you had to go through this with an ice queen for a boss. If she's not going to fire you... then to hell with her. Put feelers out if you want to, something ideal might pop, but if you've had good evals up to this point... stand fast and look for opportunities to lateral so you don't loose your benefits or seniority. I would certainly go back through HR and find out "the landscape" so that you have an opportunity to meet or exceed expectations by your next eval period. Finding an attorney may be premature... but finding a therapist is not. This situation showed you an area where you can use some professional healing. If she is disliked throughout the organization, you can adjust your thinking and feelings by not over personalizing the event. It's about her decision and management style... not about you.

You were right to give her a heads up about being vulnerable about the content of the meeting. She was not empathetic. You did appear at the meeting, and you did the best you could. Shake it off. I'm a firm believer that sometimes things happen for a reason. Perhaps this incident will lead to some healing for you. I've had some tough employee situations... and grew the most when I stood my ground and walked through it. I think you're using sound judgement about the current economic/employment situation. Clearly you are intelligent enough to choose what YOU want to do and how to proceed... I did that too. My manager did not run me out. Though in my case I did ultimately leave, it was in my own time and in good standing. They called me just this last May and rehired me (not my idea) and my former manager gives me a wide berth, as I do her.

Shake it off... from what I'm reading, this meeting content may have been a one off for you. It uncovered an area where you are fragile and still hurting from unresolved trauma. Moving forward, do the profesisonal thing... without taking her bait. Sometimes I bit my tongue near off. Sometimes tears would come out of the corners of my eyes. But after I talked to my CEO (We had no HR and in my case she was a VP) I understood my role and my standing... and kept it professional. I focused on setting an example for the others (I was an Aquatics Director). I stayed above the gossip and did not encourage animosity or conflict.... and it paid off.

Very glad you're here. This is a great place to work through our trauma and abuse issues. (((Hugs if you will accept them)))
 
Welcome to the forum.

I'm so sorry you had to go through that. You did the right thing letting your boss know - she really let you down. She obviously lacks compassion and understanding.

I hope you can find comfort on this forum.
 
Hi Spucky,

Welcome to the forum and I'm glad you are reaching out for help. I have trauma experiences relating to a work environment and like you, I told my boss's boss about what was going on, and HR. What I discovered is that HR is all about protecting the company, not the employees.

How the hell can this woman stand up talking about VET's with PTSD and not consider your PTSD!!! Hypocritical! You have rights and this woman, did not want you to send the email as there is now a paper trail leading straight to her! Keep the paper trail going.

I'd suggest you send her another email (including the union). Tell her that you will not be quitting as she recommended, and the fact that she has said that to you is discrimination. Lodge a formal complaint with your Union, and send a copy to the CEO and board of directors. Write an 'incident report' dealing what exactly happened, ask the co-worker who helped you in the bathroom to write an incident report also that you can lodge with the union. Anyone who overheard what your boss said and the suggestion that you should leave, ask them to write an incident report also.

Don't take what your boss has said lying down. You have right's and grounds for unfair dismissal if she pushes you into quitting. I've seen it before and the best thing you can do is to start compiling as much evidence as you can.

She should never have suggested that you quit your job - she has put herself in very hot water by doing this. If she suggests it again, tell her you want her to put it in an email to you. If she refuses, you will know that she has no legal grounds to ask this of you. It's just bullying and politicking. And all I would say to her is ... 'anti-discrimination laws are pretty solid these days, don't you think?....

I'm a little riled up..this is one of my pet hates and it makes me sooo mad!!!

Love to you xxoo
 
Great points PTSD sufferer. I have never had a union job... and Florida is a "right to work state" they can let you go here if they don't like what color you're wearing.
 
True Alby and Unions can fight for you as well, my husband is going through right now. There are procedures. I guess it's all about "picking your battles".

All in all I have had some horrible bosses too and been in a situation where I found myself without a job in shock. It is horrible.

You have every right to feel the way you do. If you want to work in this field it seems you are more than qualified, if not, think about how you can use your skills to work in another field...age is nothing when you have ability.

You did everything right! As was said, HR works for the company...they do. Fight if you want to, if not, shake it off as Alby said and move on ;)

Either way you are very welcome here ((((((((hugs))))))))

peace,
Rain
 
Well said Rain. For myself... I tend not to voluntarily fall on my sword particularly being an older woman. I found that by modeling professionalism and staying above, not giving back in kind to disruptive tactics... I win.
 
GOD THAT MAKES ME MAD!

You were vulnerable and they had no mercy. What the hell kind of hospice workers are they, anyway? Where is the mercy and understanding?

They are useless human beings and they should have been born mushrooms or something with no brain.

I am sorry, that just makes me so mad. You were crying on the floor in tears and no one came to you. You made yourself vulnerable and were stomped on.

I know how it is. When you are 22 and crying on a floor, oh, then someone will come to you because you are young and pretty. A young man or woman in distress is a tragic hero, all passion and potential.

Then we age. Suddenly our suffering is not so romantic. It is annoying , I guess.

I see that now. No one really gives a sh*t and they probably never did before. They probably only thought the trauma could facilitate some interlude.

I am sorry for being so angry and blunt about this, but if you were crying at MY work place, I would put my arm around you and give you some tea and we would talk about things till you calmed down.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...........
 
I know how it is. When you are 22 and crying on a floor, oh, then someone will come to you because you are young and pretty. A young man or woman in distress is a tragic hero, all passion and potential.

Then we age. Suddenly our suffering is not so romantic.

I wish I could hit the like button a hundred times.
 
You could also request 'mobility'. That is, ask to be moved to a different team under a different manager. If she wants you to move on, maybe she can facilitate the process of mobility if you give her a list of the teams you would be happy to be moved into???? Or maybe you can suggest a redundancy with a retirement or long-service benefits, if you want to walk away now???

I don't think this is 'giving it back'. It is standing up for your rights! I was a manager at 22, a director in a multinational at 25. I have two degrees and a third on the way (a Masters). I will also be doing my PhD next year. I have seen what bad managers and corporations can do (and was traumatized by it) and I have seen what good managers do in good corporations (and was thankful for it).

She can't legally ask you to leave, and she shouldn't even suggest it. It is not hard to accommodate you, when you were honest and asked directly not to be involved in the meeting prior to it happening. She forced your hand into it, and you ended up being in an emotionally distraught situation. Not only that, she tried to get you to talk to the whole team about your experiences with vets when she knew full well that you had a traumatic experience!

Participating in that meeting affected your mental wellbeing. That is why she said that you shouldn't have sent her the email - because she is now liable for the emotional distress that it caused you!! She is trying to cover her own backside, and doing so in a very underhanded way. I'm livid!

Considering she is sympathetic to vet patients with PTSD, and dealing with such illnesses is her job, she should be sympathetic to you!! You have a great track record and are very qualified, there is no reason for her to ask you to move on, other than covering her own backside!

The market is tough to find work, if you have enough security and don't need to work, by all means, walk away. If you find another job (a better job) by all means walk away. But if you are feeling 'forced' into leaving when this will affect your security by way of loss of income, then hold on as long as you possibly can until something better comes along.

If you want to stick around and she treats you any differently for it, you need to have the back up of a paper trail.

It's just my personal opinion, but as what she is doing is my antithesis, I don't sit back and take this sort of behavior. But I have to admit that as this takes me back to the sick games around (one of) my own traumas - I may be responding emotionally to this with more of a 'fight' response, than most.

Sorry if that's coming across. I know I am livid! I'll butt out now...

Hope things get better for you soon, xxoo
 
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