News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

[Freida]

I'm really starting to feel your frustration at the 'relaxed' attitude.

ya -- oregon has closed down everything -- from restaurants to salons. And yet the beach is filled with spring breakers who were intervened and said "well, it's not that big of a deal, we can't stop living our lives"

I just got the 3rd email in 48 hours confirming direct close contact with a known positive... I got it while in a coughing fit trying to breathe. The 3rd one. All by email too.

After the last notice, I have reached out for mental health support.

Oh hun ---- what a mess! I'm so sorry. And kudos for reaching out! :hug:

 

[Freida]

I was talking to G at the stables last week about a potential lock down. I'm the volunteer who lives closest to him so going to help is kind of a no brainer. Plus he is 70 and his wife is in her 60s. I can check on dad on the way up because I go right by his house. A no-leave-house lockdown? Is going to make that really hard on all of us. I can't not check on dad - i'll take the fine for that. And G? He needs all the help he can get - so he's already screwed. Luckily I live just outside a rural area so I'm hoping I can sneak thru.

 

[EveHarrington]

So, got that. That lysol is almost gone. But using it every other day or so to try to make it last but now that I have that bleach solution and know how to make it, I think I will be ok.

I’m looking into making my own disinfectant as well. I have Lysol, but who knows how long it will last and if I’ll ever be able to buy more. There are many different DIY recipes out there. I have a lot of the ingredients to do it myself.

 

[EveHarrington]

So excited I found my latex gloves today in my closet of supplies. YaY! Lol. And my reusable mask with filters came in the mail today so I’m happy about that too. I figure that even if it doesn’t provide me with 100% protection, I am helping to protect other people should I become infected, given that you’re contagious days before symptoms appear. I don’t care what people say about the lengths I go to in order to protect myself. If I’m alive at the end of this, that’s all that matters. (And oh yeah, doing my part to flatten the curve.)

 

[ms spock]

So Victoria & NSW will go into lock down either tomorrow or the next day. We had all the warnings from Italy, and Australia has done a very poor job.

I have been watching some of the press briefings that the World Health Organisation has had it's a rapid escalation of social distancing measures like: school closures, no sport events & gatherings, which are the basics for extensive testing & contact tracing that's the "backbone" of managing Covid19. It's been interesting. I am working at applying rational thought and logic to situations. I am working on not having ruminations. So I have been thinking rationally and clearly about things, which is why we are so well prepared as you can be for the next bit. We can last here for a bit.

All my friends are teaching and they are all sick. I feel concerned and a bit angry we could lose the elderly teachers - there's a whole generation of them about to retire. They should not be near any kids. But there's nothing that I can do about that, so I am doing things about the things that I can do. There's the diabetes, cancer sufferers, asthma, respiratory illness, autoimmune diseases, transplant etc etc so many underlying conditions. Through some incredibly good luck B was sick so I didn't take casual work, then he was operated on, then he needed a lot of care, and by the time I was looking around I was exposed to an irresponsible person from overseas so put myself into selfisolation, being responsible and waiting until I was symptom free - today is my first day, but for a bit there all the schools rang because all the teachers are sick much earlier in the term, and so many of them. Oh I am concerned about folks. Indeed I am so yes I marked my name absent from Tracer and I am 30 days at home give or take a day now, and it's not going so well. So I could have been one of those teachers. Anyway one of my friends was telling me how she makes every kid wash their hands on entry to the classroom. She's like a comedian teacher. She has pre existing conditions. She won't be one of the ones that is saved but she was in high spirits and hopefully her school got closed down due to coronavirus last week.

I hope everyone is taking extra care and looking after themselves.

 

[jaccat]

My store’s closing overnight in order to get the stock on the shelves. I had to open it yesterday morning. People had been waiting outside, some for 2 hours, and by the time of opening there were a couple of hundred gathered out there, all crammed up against each other. I was half afraid I was getting either trampled or punched when I got those doors open, but when it came to it they all entered in an orderly manner, and someone even thanked me. Still, so much for social distancing.

 

[blackemerald1]

I forgot to mention I am still working outside of the home and if I bring home Covid-19,

^ Yeah I understand that. Keep yousrself safe!

Just having it to be able to use it makes me feel better.

^Yeah I can understand this but resist it getting too ritualised if you understand my meaning? Use it only for disinfecting from an outside and therefore unknown source. Not for your own everyday household stuff. Make a decontamination area - like the laundry where you can undress, drop clothes into the machine, wash your hands and go get some clean clothes for inside of the house. Remember washing your hands with soap will kill it.

You can't really over disinfect as far as I am aware.

^Perhaps...

We don't know how long we are going to be like this LFS - so take care. I'm thinking of you. :hug:

 

[Mach123]

You know, I seem to do better when I have a challenge. When I was diagnosed with cancer, I didn't panic or get horribly depressed since I have a lot of tools in my toolbox, and I have some experience using them. Same with this. I don't want to lose my parents, but they are 95 and in bad health, and 82 in good health. Other than that, I seem to be holding up really well. I don't know why it is so much harder to contain my PTSD driven symptoms when it's not an huge external stressor. Maybe because I accept I have no control except what I do?

I also found out my neighbors thought I was a happy, odd, prepper. People keep telling me I was right. Huh? I just grow the stuff the chickens really like in the front amongst my flowers. I am actually out of canned vegetables, lol. I'm not a prepper, but I normally keep a pantry.

I realized this about myself when quite young. I get distracted by emergency status. Pushed away from myself by the here and now. When I'm alone with me,(bored) my stuff comes to get me.

 

[Mach123]

I really probably should take a break from social media. People, friends of friends, not just any random stranger, are getting just spiteful.

Hawaii has implemented (or at least is working on) a mandatory 14-quarantine for anyone new arriving in the islands - which is great and important! People are discussing about how this is gonna be enforced.

One person suggested to "Call up National Guard and just put all new arrivals into barracks, in a fenced-in compound"

And they keep seeing nothing wrong with it. That's the same group of folks who keep calling tourists "Virus" and stir up hate by publicly posting (and hence shaming) pictures of tourists which grumpy faces in cars on their way to the airport. The irony....the larger proportion of these people aren't from here, either, but moved here at some point in their life. They too are what locals call "transplants".

This continued xenophobia and racism is too much for me.

Another batch of friends keeps making very very hysteric and panicky posts. Apparently there now is a website with models when the "date of no return" is for each state. Hawaii has been implementing a lot of measures already for the last couple weeks and since this week very drastic measures including de-facto lockdowns, closures of all state parks/beaches/... etc. ...and they still keep making it seem like the local government isn't doing anything and we're headed for doom. It's being extremely politicized but also polarized with the way people keep stirring up panic.

I have "big island news" in my YouTube feed since Kilauea. I watched the eruption every night and I've been attached to it since, I watch a couple other channels from there , 2 guys in Lelani Estates. At some kind of town meeting a couple days ago, one of the local surfers was complaining about the "surf spots destroyed in the eruption". LOL I lived on cape cod for years, same kinda small town vibe. I hope things go ok for you out there. : )

 

[blackemerald1]

Australia has done a very poor job.

On our current testing regime which is not far from the best in the world we are testing positive for covid19 for less than 1% - that's not poor. Poor would be South Africa, Jordan & a lot of the rest of the world where they simply do not have the resources. Further, tracing of contacts with infected persons is still happening. We are not abandoning the measures that China proved were effective.

school closures,

^Two ways of thinking on this. Close down the schools and elders may be needed to supervise children at home thereby exposing many, many elderly people. Children lose their education, social interactions etc. or,

Leave schools open & you risk the spread of the infection amongst predominantly young who statistically are less affected. But yes, teachers likely will be exposed. Perhaps take those high risk teachers out of the system? Too late now I suppose.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't??

Schools are due to close for the Easter holidays. Those schools that do close and elect to teach online are required to still provide a physical school environment for children to attend as well as an online mode. This is to assist with all of the 'essential service' providers who have children who require an education. We cannot pull essential service providers out of the system however their children must be catered for in terms of education.

There is also very little information that children are super spreaders of the covid19. So there may be no greater risk within the school environment. There seems to be some inconsistent commentary regarding children being super spreaders but no data exists in the world. The only caveat to the whole school situation seems to be that even in schools there should be protection of the elderly (teachers) and practicing of social distancing must be adhered to. So children can still go to school tomorrow if their parents elect to send them.

There is a list of places that have been required to close & they include clubs, bars & the restaurant trade. There is no wholesale shutdown of businesses aside from those being told to do so.

All my friends are teaching and they are all sick.

^Are you saying you have a cluster of teachers, in QLD with covid19 because it's not on the National database that is being updated hourly if they are?

These teachers you speak of are not lost. Our current death toll stands at seven and has done so for three? days. There has been no spike in mortality like you suggested. However there has been a jump in infections directly attributable to failure of young adults not following social distancing rules.

 

[Mach123]

I feel good. My wife is fighting with me that's awful, but what's new about that? Don't listen to the rumors and it's all rumors. Don't take things personally people are messed up. Don't watch the news. Stay safe in there, for people at home, and out there, if you have to go out.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

Turn water off after handwashing using the towel you dry your hands with.

I just started to do that last night. But then @Justmehere was talking about fabic not being a good thing for this virus so that worries me too. Sort of confusing on what the best measures are. So, if I'm overdoing it, at least I am doing the things that I should to keep myself healthy. Or, at least I am not under doing it. How I see it anyway.

But, yes, I am doing that too.

I’m looking into making my own disinfectant as well. I have Lysol, but who knows how long it will last and if I’ll ever be able to buy more. There are many different DIY recipes out there. I have a lot of the ingredients to do it myself.

When I quoted JL the receipt didn't quote as well so I used 4 teaspoons (or I did 4 and a half teaspoons) of bleach to one quart (32 ounces, which is what it said on the spray bottle) of water. And then if you want a gallon, then use 5 tablespoons or 1/3 cup of bleach to the gallon of water.

Make a decontamination area - like the laundry where you can undress, drop clothes into the machine, wash your hands and go get some clean clothes for inside of the house. Remember washing your han

There is no place, other then inside my apartment, where I can take off my clothes. The only non-inside the apartment space I have is a screened in porch. But, its fully screen.

^Yeah I can understand this but resist it getting too ritualised if you understand my meaning?

I do understand what you are saying but this is more anxiety, panic, fear then rituals. And rituals are the exact same every time in that exact order and I can't stop myself from wanting to do things in that order everytime. That's not the case here. This is more fear, anxiety, and panic based.

And I am only spraying door knobs, light switches, and faucet handles. Nothing else needs to be. So not like covering my entire apartment in it. And doing it once a day after