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Other Religious Sacrifice?

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Nilrath

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I'm feeling a little empty right now. Last night I KNEW that I was going to have a flashback. I felt it coming on like a sneeze. I recall having an inability to think about anything positive, a lot of confusion, and a heap of terror. I don't really remember much else.

When I get flashbacks, I often black out for periods of time, ranging from 15-30 minutes, to up to 4-5 hours. I also tend to blank out of conversations rather easily. Does anyone else experience this?

My main question is kind of hard for me to talk about. I don't talk about it too much, but the trauma that ended up giving me a lot of trouble down the road happened 10 years ago in Pakistan. My father wanted to take me there because my grandmother was dying. She ended up dying while I was over there, which was kind of a shock to my system. She was very nice to me.

This was my first run-in with death. The cultural rituals of interacting with the dead body were very very strange to me and I remember being terrified and extremely uncomfortable. This, however, is not my trauma. Maybe a small part of it.

I LOVE animals. I loved them even more back then. One morning was a religious holiday (Eid al-Adha), where people will sacrifice an animal, and give a third of the meat to the poor, a third to their friends, and they will keep a third for their own immediate family. I had no idea this was going to happen. I walked outside of our apartment to find that the streets have been flooded with rivers of blood from the sacrifices, and I remember wading through it and trying my best to stay respectful of everything, but between all of the blood and all of the bodies of the animals (there were hundreds within sight at all times), I couldn't help but feel a terror that I've never felt before, and i still feel to this day. My heart is kind of racing as I type of all of this, but as I said before, I'm a bit empty right now, so it's a bit easier to talk about. A lot of times, my flashbacks will put me in that same place. Surrounded by blood, and absolutely terrified. There's a bit more to that story, but I don't feel 100% comfortable with my own trauma yet to talk about it.

I'm just a little confused as to how something that occurred when I was 12 years old can affect me today. I did witness an act of (what I would call) police brutality back when I was working as a security officer, which sent me spiraling back to when I was 12, around 2 weeks later. Is it possible for something like this to traumatize me this severely? Or is trauma purely subjective?
 
Welcome, Nilrath. I am somewhat familiar with Eid al-Adha and I'm so very sorry you weren't before you were exposed to it. It's really too bad your family didn't explain to you what was going to happen beforehand, even just so you could understand the tradition. I can well imagine it would be traumatic, especially as you love animals. I, too, love animals and I would never choose to witness that, and I would also be shocked out of my mind if all of a sudden I was exposed to it without warning.

And, yes, once you have PTSD it is possible to be re-traumatized even by something that is not necessarily life-threatening to you personally. I've had to go back into therapy a month ago since my husband's heart attack, which both my psychiatrist and new therapist say re-traumatized me. Once I knew he was going to be okay, I broke down and started feeling all the symptoms about as badly as I did before being diagnosed 10 years ago. This is one reason they say there is no cure for PTSD. We just have to keep managing it and it can come back in full force in a time of great distress. And in your case, you were exposed to your dying grandmother at 12 years old -- no easy feat -- then all this animal sacrifice. No wonder it comes back to you!

I'm glad you found us. There is heaps of information in these forums and lots of nice supportive people on here who know firsthand what this feels like. Take care.
 
I'm just a little confused as to how something that occurred when I was 12 years old can affect me today.
Memory, itself, is strong. People can be fully taken back into memories that are 20, 30, 40 years old, with the right prompt - a smell, a sound, a sight, almost anything.

That would have been a very, very vivid memory.

Was it on the same day of your trauma, or proximal to your trauma? I often get a kind of pre-flashback memory that is associated with my trauma, that is no longer actually traumatic, but it's like a warning sign that there are even more vivid things coming shortly, and those are the unresolved things. When I read your story, that's what occurred to me.

A useful little personal exercise is to think back to a memory that is old, but has positive attributes - and notice how powerful that memory can be, too. For me, anyway, it makes the haunting of the bad memories a little less...freaky, I guess, as a phenomenon.
 
Thank you for the interest in me! I honestly wasn't expecting any answers but both of you guys kinda helped with my fear that no one understands/my trauma isn't traumatizing enough to warrant the severity of my symptoms.

To be honest, it wasn't so much when the more recent trauma occurred, it was more of the symbolism of the trauma. Someone of higher power beating or killing another living thing, who is helpless. Any situation that I encounter/read about/see on the news like that is almost a surefire trigger for me.

Also @hodge -- Wowee! I can totally imagine that would re-traumatize someone for sure. I'm glad I found you all too. It's really helping me feel like I'm not alone, and that's important to me right now. I have all of these negative emotions, and I don't know how 75% of them got there. It's nothing like my old depression issues for sure!
 
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I understand, @Nilrath. I love animals so much, I cannot understand killing one for any possible reason other than starvation desperation. Fortunately, I didn't have to overcome any religious beliefs that said otherwise. It would have been much harder for me if I had. Though I do totally understand and respect that that eid comes from the Abraham story. But to my personal spiritual beliefs, that doesn't mean we have to reenact it every year literally.

No worries, hubby's really well now. And, as I said, I'm back in therapy and I was really lucky to get a trauma therapist this time for the first time in my loooong life (I'm in my early 50s), so yay!

Are you in therapy, hon? If not, I highly recommend it. I mean, you can get lots of useful info and support from us here, but it would really be better if you could get help from a professional and see this forum as an additional support system. I totally understand what you're saying. I also did not understand where all my emotions and symptoms where coming from but with the help of a therapist and this forum, I started to get a handle on it. (Oh, and my new therapist re-diagnosed me earlier this month; she said that major depression symptoms are now part of the PTSD diagnosis, which I didn't know. Makes perfect sense, though.)
 
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When I get flashbacks, I often black out for periods of time, ranging from 15-30 minutes, to up to 4-5 hours. I also tend to blank out of conversations rather easily. Does anyone else experience this?

That would be dissociation. There is a wealth of information about it here on this site. There are varying degrees of severity. Don't worry if you don't feel comfortable talking abou tyour trauma yet, you can choose to share at your own pace, or not even share at all, and still get support here. You have been very brave to share with us what you have so far.
 
Oh, and be sure to take news fasts when you need to. It's all coming on hard and heavy these days, and I need to do it, too. :hug:s
 
Yep, Fadeaway is right. (Thank you, Fade, for your ability to get to the point!) Just go to the top right of the screen and search on dissociation. You will get tons of posts. So you may want to include another word or two that broadly expresses what you're looking for, like "physical abuse dissociation," or whatever fits you.
 
Are you in therapy, hon?

I sure am. I just restarted therapy last week. It's looking pretty good so far, and i'm keeping a very positive attitude about it. The dissociation is what really pushed me over the edge, because it wasn't always an issue. I'm not expecting any miracles, and I know i'm likely going to live with it for the rest of my life, but if i can just have flashbacks/panic attacks slightly less frequently, I will be happy :)

Also big thanks to the others, I've been doing more research on dissociation because of it. I'm still new to everything PTSD, so I appreciate reading other stories. It really helps me not feel totally alone.
 
Good for you, Nilrath. Getting into therapy can be a huge step. I'm so glad you have a positive attitude about it because that will help you get positive results. I found that with therapy my flashbacks and panic attacks lessened a lot, so I think yours will, too.

Hang in there :hug:s if that's okay.
 
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