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Other Spiritual Abuse From Familial Cult

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That they perhaps have destroyed you... but that's not unfixable.

Yeah, that's what I am starting to learn now. That I feel distoryed but that I am like Humpty Dumpty, I have pieces scattered and I am just finding the right ones and placing them in the right spots. To make a whole me evetually!

"I'm the bad person"

"I am bad" is the thought i have and have had the entire life! You got it, for me anyway!

Recovery, for me, so much of it turns on me slowly unprogramming those layers and layers of beliefs. Tried a lot of methods, but it just seems to be one of those processes that takes a lot of time, patience with the whole 1 step forward, 2 steps back, thing. And a really trustworthy T!

Yes, yes, yes, and yes!! So many layers in my case and I sometimes have to take a step or two back to them take several foward.

She's still there.

My "inner child" that I feel so very clearly! And "she" has her own voice inside my head!

we start to see little bits of that remarkable, valuable, innocent woman come out.

Yes! A tiny peak for me! But slowly coming.

Maybe it resonates for you too.

It does for me anyway! I adore yout replies!
 
Having a hard time... I grew up for the first 11 years of my life in a home where religion of any form...

I came out of the independent movement. It was very oppressive. I was determined not to throw out the baby with the bath water. So I dove into doctrine and have found my own way. There is strength to be had in going it alone.
 
I think this is where I struggle.. in my captivity every time I tried to find good or success or hope the hammer came down.. I was tormented and psychologically tortured for believing there was a me that I had the audacity to believe that I could have my own thoughts.. basically taught if my thoughts weren't his they should be burned/tossed away. Almost Complete self stripped away.

That was a HUGE struggle for me. Even when I first came to this site (which was only last Dec so it wasn't that long) my thoughts weren't my own. They were the cult's thoughts. It ran me, even 16 yrs later. I woke up with them telling me what to do and went to bed witu them telling me what to do. I had no idea that I could nor how to control my own mind.

I think that is one of the hardest things that is a unique challege for those of us that are survivors of a cult or were programmed or brainwashed. And I don't think anyone that wasn't in their trauma can truely understand what it is like to not have control of your own mind.

Even if it wasn't that strong for you, you still don't know what are yours or his or right or wrong really. You know?

It was the biggest struggle of my life. And i'm sure I looked like I was fighting the help here but it was just that I was fully controled by it and no matter how bad I wanted to be free of it, I couldn't seem to figure out how to.

It came so slowly that I have no idea how I did it. I look back on this year and how far I came, further then 7 yrs of therapy could bring me. And I think I credit most of it to all the wonderful people here that challenged my way of thinking. It helped to create doubt of the cult beliefs.

If I were to give you a few pieces of advise it would be to be patient with yourself (though don't ease up on the fight), allow challenge to enter your mind and really mull it over, post about things you can't figure out as replies are so good at helping you figure stuff out as well as challenging you, be nice to yourself. You will fail. You will trip. You will fall. Don't beat yourself up when you do. And to not loose sight of that light at the end of the tunnel as it is there regardless if you can see it or not.

A good friend once told me that when a person walks through a plot of woods he reaches a point where he isn't going in or through but making his way out to the other side. You will get there. Believe in you as I do! :hug:

Some good resources would be CBT thought records (good for challenging thoughts): Cognitive Therapy Guide: Thought Records

DBT distracting techniques (when you need to distract from distressing things): ACCEPTS

DBT self soothing techinques (for when you need to be nice to yourself and can't figure out how): Self-Sooth

Rick Ross (like the godfather of cults. It's not an active forum anymore but very good information there): Dead Link Removed

I know I am repeating myself a lot. I am off of work and can actually give a thought out reply. Sorry.
 
I came out of the independent movement. It was very oppressive. I was determined not to throw out th...
Thank you Ryan. I'm happy that you have found a way through it and created your own path... That takes some determination for sure!

I honestly don't think I'd be able to go there though.. just have to find my own way on a different path.. starting to finally feel a bit of relief in knowing that I can.. xx
 
I honestly don't think I'd be able to go there though.. just have to find my own way on a different path.. starting to finally feel a bit of relief in knowing that I can.

I know that feeling so well. Feeling like you are just in a pitch black room with all doors locked or lost in a forever forrest but I assure you that there is a light, a door unlocked, a way out of the forrest.

You do indeed need to find and travel your own path but your path leads the same direction as mine, to the other side.

I am not in that other side yet but getting there. Close enough to hear the others over there.

You will get there! I believe in you! :hug:
 
My father was a mainline denomination minister. When I entered my teens, he left the church, quit his job, and set up his own ministry.

My mother and eventually my brother and I (when we came of age) were roped into the ministry as his board of directors. The deal was, he wanted to incorporate as a non-profit which meant he needed a board, but he didn't want to give up all control. So, he became the president of the board and my family members were forced to join the board in order to create a voting quorum. It was all about control; he knew he could control us.

I was badly ostracized by my parents and brothers when I went my own way.
 
My father was a mainline denomination minister. When I entered my teens, he left the church, qui...
I'm so sorry you had to deal with that situation @BuckarooBanzai.. its damn near impossible to individualize yourself in those situations.. I was put in sort of an enforcer position.. while we didn't actively seek to obtain members my father used me to coerce other family members into obeying/staying. It was horrible.. If they left or I didn't follow through like he wanted me too?.. I became the lightning rod. And was severely ostracized and emotionally obliterated back into submission.

By the time I left a lot had so it wasn't as bad as far as having people come after me... But my relationships with family are severely damaged and fragmented.

I'm really glad you broke away and freed yourself from the toxicity of that abuse. <3
 
That was a HUGE struggle for me. Even when I first came to this site (which was only last De...
Yes, I honestly believed with all my heart I would be killed.. there was no convincing me otherwise.. and I still have a tendency to see news world events through prophecy and numerical filters. It's not as bad now bit before it just was second nature and when bad things happen I keep thinking. Was it true?.. pisses me off when this happens.

I've been here about the same amount of time.. but depending on what stage in recovery I would come for a bit then avoid coming here because I felt too vulnerable.. couldnt grasp everything that people were trying to do to help.. and I felt very inferior.. for not being able to.. then I felt that if I couldnt grasp I really had no way to offer anyone else support.. and absolutely was terrified of saying something that wasn't ok or right. so a lot of young almost infancy/adolescent type reactions.. projecting and fearing bring ostracized again for failing someone somehow..

I'm getting better at not doing that but I know it's going to take time to deprogram and reprogram. Thank you for the resources. Defiantly will be checking those out! You are awesome! And I really appreciate it! Let's blaze trails homie!
 
Yes, I honestly believed with all my heart I would be killed.

Me too! I mean, i justify it by saying they needed me as I was "the demon child" and per their bible, there were only one true one and I was that true one for several reasons (i think he wrote it to fit me) so they'd never kill me. They needed me in this cult. But being held under water until you passed out. Chained out naked in the winter time or when it was thunderstorming and lightrning....and other things, dying went through my mind so many times.

So though I justify it that they'd never kill me, I was convinced I was going to die during it all.

and I still have a tendency to see news world events through prophecy and numerical filters. It's not as bad now bit before it just was second nature and when bad things happen I keep thinking. Was it true?.. pisses me off when this happens.

Was the prophecy true?

I research things and people like Nostradamus whom actually did predict several historical events.

You mean like that or like different kinds?

I've been here about the same amount of time.. but depending on what stage in recovery I would come for a bit then avoid coming here because I felt too vulnerable.. couldnt grasp everything that people were trying to do to help.. and I felt very inferior.. for not being able to.. then I felt that if I couldnt grasp I really had no way to offer anyone else support.. and absolutely was terrified of saying something that wasn't ok or right. so a lot of young almost infancy/adolescent type reactions.. projecting and fearing bring ostracized again for failing someone somehow..

I thought i saw you around for a while.

I, also, have had many issues with myself here. Not a site issue but a me issue. Especially when I first joined as I had no idea how to be around people, connect to people, be vulernable. I did put it all out there but being vulernable was so hard for me. Not protecting myself all the time. Not defending myself all the time was so hard for me.

Personally i needed, badly needed this. Support. People that care. I was like someone thats not drank water in days, once i realized it was water and wasn't poisoned i absorbed it, down the water, so very fast.

But it took a while to realized the water wasn't poisoned. That people weren't here just to hurt me. That was my biggest hurdle here.

This site has been such a great lesson for me. One huge ongoing lesson.

And its ok to have issues like that as we have to learn how to be around normal people. Or people that arent the cult. And we stumble. We may stumble a lot. But in the end, we learn, right?

I completely understand! And it is ok! :hug:

I'm getting better at not doing that but I know it's going to take time to deprogram and reprogram. Thank you for the resources. Defiantly will be checking those out! You are awesome! And I really appreciate it! Let's blaze trails homie!

Yes, it does take time to deprogram and reprogram. I ran far in a year but everyone moves their own pace and i have fell in a hole which is what i am currently trying to climb out of. And hit many walls which I had to take down brick by brick until I could climb over. So we have our own hurrdles and pitfalls. The thing, for me, is to keep moving. Don't self judge about falling or getting stuck. Just work your way unstuck. Untangle what is making you stuck. But don't self judge due to getting stuck.

Fall, start to dig out. Hit a wall, start to take it down.

My therapist says that we will always run back to our comfort zone. So when I feel too far out of my comfort zone, I get scared and i will run back to it. It's natural and ok. As long as you gain that self awareness and start to move out of your comfort zone again. Because the more we move out, go back, move out again, we will move out further each time.

Sorry to ramble and for the long post. I hope some of this makes sense and helps.

It is so hard to heal after a cult. I just want you to know you aren't alone with any of this at all. And I totally get it! :hug:
 
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