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My Doctor Gave Up On Me.

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I reached out to my doctor today. He said that I should seek inpatient treatment and that ECT may "snap" me out of my depression. This would mean putting my children in foster care, God only knows what they would endure, and possibly not believed. I have had much experience with not being believed, may not get them back after. I will not trade my well being for theirs. I will hold out until I cannot. I want death more than I ever have in my life, not even during my traumas. I have always had a little hope. I have none now.
 
Other Options:

- Intensive Outpatient & Partial Hospitalization would both allow you to dramatically increase your level of care, while still being at home at night with your kids.

- Some at-home-nursing companies provide supplemental childcare in the advent of parental hospitalization. A nanny service would be my first impulse (put the kids in before&afterschool care / group daycare 5am-8pm, and then have the nanny transport & watch from 8-5), but nannies aren't covered under insurance, and nursing shifts are.

- There are a few not-very-well-known programs in my city that take care of children for free (or via insurance) once and once only for their parent(s) to attend a 28 day to 3mo long drug&alcohol rehab program, or inpatient psychiatric hospitalization. One is affiliated with the DV network, another with a children's hospital, another is a stand alone children's program (inpatient & outpatient care). They're really amazing programs which include not only 24/7 residential care, transportation to/from school, but also things like art therapy/ equine therapy/ ropes courses/ etc. The theory being that whole families need treatment in the wake of serious mental health problems, drug & alcohol abuse, etc. They're very difficult to get into (the residential component, the outpatient program is as easy as singing up; they prefer children attend their programs as part of their normal lives / on an outpatient basis), and aren't advertised. In order to find out about them / apply people really have to go through the admissions process via the hospital/rehab they want to attend. Clearly these kinds of programs aren't available everywhere, and even here where they are, it's not an easy process. But it would be something I would ask the hospital social workers & intake workers about if there are any in your area.
 
It is surprising, when one has children at home the situation is so much more difficult. After all a good parent always wants to be there for the children.
I can understand that a patient does not want to be referred to an institution........ I would not either. I have learned within the last couple of weeks what can go on in such institutions and after a total stranger attempted to force his opinions on me I am shocked as to now know what some of these so called doctors are capable of. So shocking is all of this information that my brain is smashed into pieces. When one finds out about the real truth and one also has PTSD then it is excruciating to digest this information.
The devil can live anywhere and when one realizes that abuse can very well happen in such institutions then one really begins to understand how easily a PTSD victim can be abused and if a doctor like that abuses a victim within an institution like that, often physically and mentally, then there is absolutely no hope for that victim. Because once a doctor abuses like that and is also the very same person that gives a final diagnosis on such a patient he or she can give a patient like that a death penalty.
Like I said, I am in such total shock over all of this information that my thinking has slowed into a crawl and the mental fog is unbelievable.
Likewise, many other so called professionals have attempted to do that to me before, mainly to get the one person that spoke the truth away from the scene of the crime.
And it also made me understand what my ex attempted to do, the emphasis is always on the word attempt, because that is what all of such abusers have done, they have only gotten to the attempt to hurt me in such ways. I have always pulled my head out of the sling before they got close to me, but still it is a very traumatic experience nevertheless.
I am soooo sorry that the doctor would even use the word snap out of it because that speaks of his incapability to understand that when a person is already in shock that shock therapy might hurt more than help.
I don't know but it seems that is one order given in concentration camps where jews had to snap out of it too, there seems to be such a correlation with torture chambers and such institutions.
I am resorting to You Tube for many of my in home treatments, EMDR is offered there, PTSD grounding methods are offered on U Tube, as well as many other PTSD sufferers have recorded their own experiences there. Serotonin Release audio tapes are offered on there.

You see, what a victim learns is this: a predator (and that includes some doctors) seem to think that they have the final authority in a patient's life, and that can be detrimental to a patient. It is similar to a doctor that attempted to make me believe that a disease of mine he can not treat is therefore untreatable. But then I conduct my own research and voila....
A predator will tear into your very being, rip you apart, similar to a hyena, lion, wolf, and then proclaim that you have a problem there is no fix for.

A predator is counting on the hope that if he or she is done tearing into the victim that the victim will give up herself or himself. And there are many that specialize in such torture tactics.
Don't give up on yourself and your beautiful children, in such a situation you have to exclude everyone else and only do what you think is right. Try the self treatments on You Tube,they help me......
Trust yourself, believe yourself, and please don't give up hope, even if others do that to you that does not mean that you have to do the same thing. The power of a bad doctor is detrimental and then the patient not only has to heal from the ailment that is already present, but also has to heal from the abuse a so called professional has administered.
 
It is surprising, when one has children at home the situation is so much more difficult. After a...
Thank you. I will try the YouTube videos you suggested. Another person, in PM told me about it. It's kind of like drowning right now, I can catch my breath for a second, then back under I go.
 
I am not in your situation, but I was in the situation in which my therapist and I decided inpatient was the best option for me. It was super hard to admit, but once I went I was relieved that I did and learned so much. My therapist didn't give up on me, she just wanted what was best for me. That said, I don't know what your doctor is like but he should make you feel supported and not given up on.

It's worth looking into some of those programs that @Friday mentioned to see if there is anything like that for your children. I am guessing your don't have any trustworthy family members that could take the kids for awhile. Also, the suggestion of an outpatient partial program is a good idea. I went to one and it helped me a lot at the time.

I really didn't want to leave my kids to get the help I needed, but in the end everyone told me that if I couldn't take care of myself, I couldn't take care of my kids the way I wanted to so that helped convince me to go inpatient. Best wishes in figuring out the next best step for yourself.
 
I am not in your situation, but I was in the situation in which my therapist and I decided...
I can appreciate your sentiment, thank you for your kind words, but without me, my daughters have "the system" which we all know is very much a broken one. I have raised my children on my own, for the past 17 years, kept them away from the many things I had to endure. I have PTSD from childhood sexual trauma, witnessing suicide via firearm when I was 15, and then MST. I am broken in many ways, but have always kept them safe. Now, I am faced with a horrifying thought of one of them possibly having to endure any of that, vulnerable people, make easy targets. I know I need the help, that I don't deny, what I deny is, abandoning what I hold most dear, that is why I have often pushed away suicidal thoughts. Once a child is placed in childcare it is often difficult to get the decision reversed. Especially when the person has no one. I am glad you have support, but not all of us have safe family, to entrust the care of our children. I will most definitely look into the resources mentioned above.
 
I understand how hard this is, been there and I know the roller coaster we end up facing and the problems with the system. I have had a lifetime of PDOC's making judgements that were more harmful than good.

I do think the Partial Hospitalization is a good idea, most general hospitals that have a psych ward have a PHP program. And many hospitals have daycare centers. I am looking to go back into PHP myself. And that ECT option your PDOC suggested well as far as I know most psych hospitals have abandoned doing them, most places its done is in general hospitals with the patient in the psych unit.
 
@1234567891011 - please look into TMS treatment options in your area. Daily TMS, which is outpatient, coupled with a daily PHP, may help your suicidality.

ECT itself is not necessarily inpatient.

It does sound like you are barely functioning.
Now, I am faced with a horrifying thought of one of them possibly having to endure any of that, vulnerable people, make easy targets. I know I need the help, that I don't deny, what I deny is, abandoning what I hold most dear, that is why I have often pushed away suicidal thoughts.
You are also abandoning them, in a different way, if you do not seek treatment.

Do they know how ill you are right now? I would guess that they might. You say you've been raising them on your own for 17 years - is the eldest mature enough to care for the younger for a few weeks if you did start ECT inpatient? As I said, it's not always inpatient treatment, but getting stabilized can take two weeks. Two weeks, I'm not sure you would even be getting into foster care...
 
@joeylittle Is right, you may want break it down into parts, simplify things and work the parts one at a time. So it is not overwhelming and you can have structure in the process. And it helps you think more clearly.

First Part: check on treatment options
Second Part: Address Child Care Issues
Third Part: Get help with making this happen once you know where you stand.
Fourth Part: Don't leave us, there is a lot of support here, its been a life saver for me at times, even now. Stay present both on the forum, and in the moment.

the above is an example: you know your needs and issues, make your own list.

Once you are done with your treatment, taking DBT would be a good idea. It will help you cope with life and suicidality.

@joeylittle is think is 100% right about you sound like you're barely functioning, I myself right now have been going thru a crisis and have suicidality too. But from what I have read on this thread your functioning worse than me. That being said. You need to get some professional help like I have started too, you can't afford to be paralyzed mentally to where you do nothing, because that can not go on forever, at some point something will need to be done, and there is the possibility that you won't have the choices you have now. Where would that leave everyone else.
 
Think he just does not want me as a patient since taking my case probono...
ECT is not significantly less expensive than TMS. Are you saying he has TMS available in his office suite? In that case, you should ask about it. He's not wrong, steering you to ECT if you are completely unable to regulate your suicidal thinking. But it sounds from your concerns about leaving home that you are willing to regulate the thinking, you just don't have the skills right now.

Does that sound true, to you?

Edit to ask - are you on any medication?
 
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