• We are a multilingual website again. Read the notice about this.
  • Understand AI use at MyPTSD: all AI use is explained in our AI help page. AI use is by choice here. It exists if you want it, but does nothing unless you choose to use it.

Wtf?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Sludge

Diamond Member
I say again, WTF? Time to rant a bit because you folks will not hold it against me for long, if at all.

(possible triggers-leaving myself open to flamespray)


Check this out:

So, as part of my "new" position at the service center, me and my counterparts are supposed to do a 40 hour course to get a Nebraska Peer-to-Peer Support Certification.

OK. Fine. No problem. One more useless certification that I will never use, never need and will be one more line on my resume'. Great.

Training I can do. Certifications I can get. Hell, I'm open to learning anything.

This abortion was neither.

Foreshadowing-

The manual is printed, in its entirety, in Comic San Serif Font...all 500 pages.
The first slide of the PowerPoint presentation is rainbows ,and I shit you not, a f*cking unicorn.

This is an official State of Nebraska SANCTIONED and SUPPORTED training cert!?!

But wait, it gets worse. They open the session with introductions. Not the normal "Hi, I'm Sludge and I work for blah blah blah..."

They open with the AA/NA/12 step program bullshit. "Hi my names is Jack Offerting, I am ten years sober and Praise Jesus, I am proud to be. I served as a cook in Georgia during Nam and never left the country, but I have PTSD and want to give back" shit. Out of 20 f*cking students in the course, every single one of them opened with this type of shit, showing off their coins with faint sweat and a glazed fervor in their eyes. Thirteen of them claimed to be veterans. Only one other was a combat vet. The rest were ALL stateside desk jockeys.

Except me, of course...

"Hi. I'm Johnny. I have a long list of neuro and psychological disorders. I was in the Navy and did many awful things far outside my area of expertise and branch of service. I am the type of person you all fear because unlike all of you I am not afraid to call bullshit when I smell it. I am here because my job required it, but since my boss is right across from me at the table, I'll state that this is the least productive, most unprofessional and least helpful training I have ever been forced to be present at. Comic Sans is for morons and if you speak to a combat vet with rainbows and unicorns in the background, you will quickly be alone in the room. Anyway, I call bullshit and just want to get this over with."

"But this training is about your recovery too!"

"Honey, I have recovered just fine. I made enough money in my old career as an industrial MRO engineer I could quit and go get a degree in Biology AND Chemistry. Am I perfect? f*ck no. But apparently I am doing better than all of you because I don't need a cult-crutch to make it through the day."

"But think of the veterans you will be helping!"

"Think of the veterans I AM helping. Every damned day. Instead of helping myself and focusing on my life long dream of being a scientist, I get to sit 10-12 hours a day in front of more veterans than all of you see in a week, combined. The bulk of which are The Doomed, and only sit in front of me because some asshole <glares at boss> thinks I'm a goddamned miracle worker and therefore only get the cases no one else will touch. I have to deal with racists and rapists and multiple felons and shitbags day in and day out. All most all of them, products of 12 step programs. All of them veterans in name only. No honor. No courage. No respect. Only here to jones for another handout because they are the ones too weak to do the right thing and pull their own heads out of their own asses Notice the percentage of Vets seeking these services is minute?Guess those programs work really well, huh?"

"But that is not what this training is about.It is about you. And most of us here are vets."

"Really? Then I'm out of here while you all get warm and cuddly. There are vets lined up at the door needing help and they have to wait because you folks are in here playing cutie-cult and have all but closed down the center to do so. They are combat hardened men and women with sand under their nails and no idea how to re-integrate. They need jobs and housing and education and help. They don't want hugs and rainbows and coins. Many of them are students and only need some guidance from a fellow student. Many just want to get away from the bimbos and morons down over the hill at the student center."

"But..."

"But nothing. This sort of crap is one of the main reasons so many veterans get lost through the cracks and eventually end up at my desk. This sort of BULLSHIT is why so many returning vets avoid you folks like the plague. This is why they get sent to me. I don't give them hugs. I give them facts. Either I can help them or help them out of my office. The ones I can help, I set them up with lives better than my own. I don't do it for them. I order them to do it for themselves and do it my way, the right way, the Navy way. Today I am going to actually do my job as a Student Veteran Outreach Associate. I am going to go and actually help the people I am paid a measly 110 bucks a week to help. I am not going to do your jobs for you today."


I got up and left.


I get it. I really do. That sort of touchy-feely Jesus Saves 12 steps to humanity bullshit works for some folks. If that is your thing, good for you.

It is not for me. It is not only offensive to my person but it is revolting. To replace an Addiction/Trauma/Crisis with a different addiction is unhealthy, illogical, and a crutch for the weak.

"Oh but this sort of thing helps so many!"

It does not, I assure you. Less than one tenth of one percent of the population that utilizes such peer support formulas actually benefits. Do the math. It is a statistically insignificant result.

All it does is substitute a cult mentality and provide a different venue to hide from reality. Period.

This state cert is not training. It is a 40 hour hug fest. I shit you not.

Quotes from the instructor:

"I love you all."

"This is about your recovery..."

"You can't help others until you help yourself."


If it is all about me, why am I in a room with 21 other people? Why am I going to be a peer support specialist when none of these people are by definition my peers? I am too young for Nam and GW1 and too old and broken for GW2. I am a combat vet in between. I am one of the ones that fell through the cracks because no one gave a shit about me and my peers because we were at "peace". (I have a medical file six inches thick that describes otherwise, but it was peace time...)

This is why I get the "special cases". I don't f*ck around and sugar coat shit. I am not politically or socially correct. I get shit done and move on at the cost of my own life. I am merely a wad of gap filler in a system that has great intentions and little action. I defend my co-workers at the MVSC. We do it the right way. Every time civilians or government folks get involved it all goes to shit.

I called bullshit. I went and got four guys jobs, two started on disability claims, and guided three resume writers through their pages of jargon. Then I went to lunch and found three more vets that needed help and didn't even know where to go. I gave them my card, and two were waiting for me by the time I got back from lunch.

By losing my cool and storming out of that bullshit, I actually got to help vets who wanted and needed help. Not handouts. Help. In months of doing this sort of work, I got to actually HELP more vets that actually earned and deserved help then I have had in the last four months.

There is Nebraska peer-to-peer support for you. I do not need the cert. I do not need the cult. I sure as shit do not have 40 hours to waste sharing feelings with a bunch of strangers in a "warm and caring" environment.

The truly frightening part? The trainer was a VA employee!!!!! Our tax dollars paid for that horseshit! It is the standard by which other State's programs are set! Jesus Ezekiel Jesus the Christos on a crutch made of corn dogs.

Note. This was me operating with low blood pressure, a sodium deficiency, reduced kidney function AND a fruit salad of VA issued brain pills (which have been changed 4 timers in 7 days). I am still pissed off. I am offended. I am insulted. I have a heart rate of 35 BPM. On top of that, I have been fighting the beast again pretty hard for the first time in a while. The Beast got loose, I went and got help, their quick fix destroyed my health, and now I am barely keeping it together and idiots are cramming bullshit in my face.

And I am sorry.

I will not be able to help any vets the rest of this week.

I am staying at home and getting my school work caught back up, hunting for a lab job somewhere, and avoiding those dickbags and their cult of squishy feelings.

"You can't help others until yo help yourself."

Goddamned straight. This week I AM going to help my self.


Sludge is back and Johnny goes on hiatus for a while.

Johnny fights the beast and loses more often than not.

Sludge makes the beast his bitch.
 
Ha ha. Loved it, Sludge. I am exactly the same way about some of the shit they call "therapy" these days. Might as well hand out coloring books and finger painting paper. And don't forget the little mat so I can take a nap after lunch.
 
Outf*ckingstanding Brother, Thanks for everything you are doing Sludge..(I prefer Sludge over johnny). Take care of yourself.
 
You had me going until you mentioned the VA. Then my mind slid back into the Mississippi mud rut I was in for nearly forty years. Run. Escape. You deserve more than musical doctors and programs. Appreciate you helping Vets when you could.

Sarg
 
The sad part is, as I read through that post again, it sounds like bullshit in itself. I wish it were. I swallowed my pride and my rage and my disgust and went into the office today anyway. Just in case someone that isn't out there drinking the kool-aid needs my help.

Right outside my office door those f*cktards are still preaching their bullshit. WHen I walked into the building at noon, I shit you not, they were doing simulated group hug therapy...

I know it sounds like I am ragging on 12 steppers....and I am.

But, I will say again, just as I have said in the past about topics such as pot use, homeopathy, acupuncture- if it works for you, great. Do it. I support you and your health, mental and physical, and hope that your god and faith and steadfastness get you through the rough times.

That does not mean I am going to do it...or buy into it.

Someone earlier pulled the standard "He is just in denial." bit as I walked back to my office from the head.

I stuck my head out of my thin walled office and stated "Just denying bullshit, is all."

They have lowered their volume level so at least I could get some valid work done.



Thanks for your support gang. Things have been really rough this year so far. I guess this sort of thing is what I get for trying to do things "the right way".

The beast is back again, but I really am keeping it in check. I actually am sleeping better being Sludge rather than Johnny. Really strange that I have to compartmentalize my self to function. Really strange that the Beast-wrangler can sleep like a baby, yet the "normal" one sleeps maybe 25 hours a week....total...

Guess it seems whackadoo to have to refer to myself in third person as two separate people, but as many of you know, that is how it feels.

I am still really pissed off about this entire situation, more than I am about what "they" have done to my physical health at the VA this past few weeks.

If anything, Sludge is a productive muther. He got two weeks (500 problems) of algebra, and a 2300 word paper done in two days. Johnny just wants to go hide in the basement right now.

Instead I am keeping both in this small office for a bit more.
I have to go home and bum smokes from my kid before class (because on top of everything else the VA hasn't paid my paycheck since May...).
Good news is bills are all paid up.
Bad news is Sludge chainsmokes and cusses and occasionally drinks.

Gotta wind my self down a bit and fake being Johnny. Sludge destroys the family, Johnny supports it.

Can't let them know how pissed off and angry and frustrated I am.

Not healthy to keep it in, but both of Me worked far too hard these past months to get the family and the finances squared away.

I'll just fake it till they are all asleep, then log into a game and kill some virtual shit before bed. Virtual violence as an outlet for anger.

Christ.

It really has come down to that.
 
I some times think I will get old enough where I won't give a flying f*ck........NOT!!! Will never happen. I was wrote off after Nam. I will do my best so that does not happen to any other vets. I do what I can and try to do something every day.

It makes me mad as hell that you are getting something f*cking done to help. And the dumb pricks can't see it......Total f*ck!!!

J R
 
I some times think I will get old enough where I won't give a flying f*ck........NOT!!! Will never happen. I was wrote off after Nam. I will do my best so that does not happen to any other vets. I do what I can and try to do something every day.

It makes me mad as hell that you are getting something f*cking done to help. And the dumb pricks can't see it......Total f*ck!!!

J R
Yup. That is all I can do. Make sure at least one other person doesn't suffer like I did and do. hasn't happened yet, but it will eventually, I hope.

As for the rest of them, well...it is what it is. We all have our way of doing things, but as military men and women in my experience it has been and likely always will be, "Get the job done. Do it right the first time, and shit on all non-hackers, shitbags, NUBs and so on."
 
That was both encouraging, enlightening and an eye-opener Sludge. Well said!

I thought I had PTSD and became a Butch Bitch, as a colleague called me the other day.
Wrong, you're all ladies who beat around the bush, hug frigging 4 times a day when you've only been to the loo and welcome eachother back and you're afraid of saying things as they are.

It's the "respectful" and everything-should-be-roses-and-glitter attitude that is hard to swallow and *Click* went off in my head now.

So thank you for calling it like it is.
 
Seems all is normal in the world. The 12 steppers and the State "everybody is special" gang have a whole lot of bullshit on their plate. Much of it their own invention. So what do you do? Legitimize it in the form of a course....require the coarse and enlist a bunch of people to eat said bullshit.

The VA? It was built on bullshit...may even be the founder of institutionalized bullshit. But they make it pretty clear to everyone that either:

A. You are not worthy of our bullshit.
B. If you do qualify for our bullshit.... you really got to want it.
or finally.
C. We really don't want you here wallowing about in our bullshit all the time, because this stuff is addictive and we may end up killing you.

I've recently experienced C.

I'd just trump their bullshit. Hugging training? Bear hug every SOB in the group. Then claim "But I can't hug softly, I've got too much to give" Plenty of comedic releases in that game.

Peace
 
Seems all is normal in the world. The 12 steppers and the State "everybody is special" gang have a whole lot of bullshit on their plate. Much of it their own invention. So what do you do? Legitimize it in the form of a course....require the coarse and enlist a bunch of people to eat said bullshit.

The VA? It was built on bullshit...may even be the founder of institutionalized bullshit. But they make it pretty clear to everyone that either:

A. You are not worthy of our bullshit.
B. If you do qualify for our bullshit.... you really got to want it.
or finally.
C. We really don't want you here wallowing about in our bullshit all the time, because this stuff is addictive and we may end up killing you.

I've recently experienced C.

I'd just trump their bullshit. Hugging training? Bear hug every SOB in the group. Then claim "But I can't hug softly, I've got too much to give" Plenty of comedic releases in that game.

Peace

Sadly, this is Nebraska...I couldn't get my arms around the bulk of them for hugs...too much corn and bullshit.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Donation drives

2026 Donation Goal

Goal
$1,800.00
Earned
$910.00
This donation drive ends in
0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds
  50.6%

Trending content

Featured content

Back
Top Bottom