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Sexual Assault Continuing a relationship with your abuser

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I lost my virginity a year and a half ago at the age of 20 to a stranger I met at a bar down the street from my apartment. I can't remember his name.

A month after that, I met another man (coincidently at the same bar), who wanted to buy me a shot and talk to me about music. We stayed up until 5am in my room sharing our music taste and talking. He stayed over but things did not progress beyond kissing.
On our second date, he brought me out to a different bar in our neighborhood and introduced me to several of his friends. After a night of drinking, we went back to his apartment just down the street from me and I told him that I "sorta liked him" and wasn't super down to have sex, to which he agreed. In the morning, I woke up to him inside me, without a condom. I was so inexperienced and confused that I didn't speak up and I let him finish, despite my discomfort.
Over the next few months, I found that him and I shared a lot of mutual friends, and would see each other out and about frequently. I never acknowledged our interaction as assault and continued hooking up with him periodically over the next year. I'd see him on dates and would hear him talk about other girls and felt hurt, but considered it to be my sensitivity getting the best of me. As someone who has always had pretty low self-esteem, this felt like a personal low.

In early 2017, I went on a Tinder date. I'd been on one before, but dating in general had always prompted a lot of anxiety for me, so I tended to avoid it altogether, despite having always wanted a relationship. Instead of the usual small-talk Tinder thing, he immediately asked if he could take me out on a date, to which I replied something like "sure."
Our first date was about as climactic as it gets. There was drinking, laughing, dancing in an empty room, and the night ended with the two of us sharing music with each other while dangling our legs off of his roof. We had clicked right off the bat, which is something that I wasn't used to. I was in a car back to my place by 1am.
Our second date was a bit different. He told me he was at a bar with some friends not far from my house. Not feeling properly equipped to meet "friends" for the first time, I told him I'd also be bringing friends, but proceeded to get a bit drunk beforehand. By the time we all met up, it was around 12am. Things were going well, and it didn't take long for the two of us to break apart from the group and head to a different bar, just the two of us. After a long night of drinking and finally getting to the point of us both being "too drunk," we decided to head back to his place, which was also nearby.
As the night progressed, we realized that neither of us had a condom. I told him that it was not cool with me for us to have sex without one and he agreed. Being very drunk, I fell asleep soon after that beside him, believing that that would be the end of it. However, very similar to the first situation, he made the decision for both of us and did as he pleased. I was extremely disoriented and confused throughout the duration of it and fell asleep again soon after. In the morning I rigidly said goodbye and went home.
A few hours later he sent me a text saying that he had enjoyed his night with me but that next time there would "be less drinking." I didn't reply. He called me a while later. I let it go to voicemail. He texted me again. After several hours of feeling disgusted and angry, I finally replied saying that I was not okay with how the night turned out.

He apologized more than I realized a person could apologize for something. I made myself incredibly difficult to reach, but he continued calling and messaging me. After a couple days of this, I told him that I needed a while to regroup, so he agreed to leave me alone (apologetically). I had already been feeling incredibly shitty, but the idea of not seeing him again made me feel somehow worse. After a week of no contact, I decided to reach out to him (I forget exactly what I had said). I was about to leave on a 3 week long trip, and figured that this would be the perfect amount of time to think about what it was I intended to do.

Long story short, we dated for about 5 more months. He explained to me how damaged he was from a past relationship, and I decided to not mention any of my past trauma (romantically or otherwise), but completely catered to his. Once I was able to forgive him for the incident, the relationship we developed became pretty intense, and involved him talking about the possibility of us being together and me continuing to pull back. When I finally decided that I did want to be with him, he ended things. He was a few years older than me and apparently ended things because of the age disparity. He still really liked/s me and continues to send me things periodically, like songs and article links.

It's been about 4 months since things have been over but I still can't get over it. I've been seeing a therapist for 1.5 months and have set up an appointment to see a psychiatrist, but haven't really been able to open up to her about this aspect of our relationship. It feels really complicated and hard to explain (even right now) and it's something that feels really really embarrassing for me.

Writing at least part of this out has been very difficult but also sort of therapeutic. I've opened up partially to some friends about the situation, but still hold a lot of that shame in dating him after he assaulted me, so I've mostly kept it to myself.

While I think the next step for me is to talk to my therapist about the situations I've put myself in and get treated for my depression/anxiety, the idea of dating is also still really scary for me. My anxiety has been around for as long as I can remember, for a variety of reasons, but for the past several months, I can hardly go a single day without crying, and the idea of feeling this scared to date again makes me even more upset. And while I feel much more capable than the person I was when both of these incidences occurred, I can't help but fear that I'd actually let it happen again. That this is just the beginning of the absolute shit that I'm going to have to go through.

Has anyone else experienced this sort of shame that comes from continuing to date the person who initially assaulted you? How have you dealt with the embarrassment and how have you been able to develop new relationships and move on?
 
I lost my virginity a year and a half ago at the age of 20 to a stranger I met at a bar down the stree...

When a man asks you to go on a date, to put it bluntly, he means he wants to f*ck you.
If you agree to that date he thinks you mean, probably/maybe.
If you go on a date to a place with other friends, that is still just a maybe.
If you agree to leave that group and go off alone with him, that is a "probably".
If you go alone with him to his house that is a "almost definately"
If you get in his bed, that is "yes absolutely definitely"
That is how they think. Next time you go on a date with a man you have not already decided to have sex with,
1) Arrange your own transport to and from the date, either your own car or taxi, do not rely on anyone else to drive you home!
2) Do not agree to go anywhere that means you and he will be alone unless you decided you want sex with him. You can always find a nearby place to kiss and make out while other people are close enough to prevent it going further
3) Do not get drunk, if you drink alcahol, pace yourself, drink it slow.
4) Remember all of the above and stay safe.
 
When a man asks you to go on a date, to put it bluntly, he means he wants to f*ck you.
If you agree to...
I don’t like what you’ve written.

Though I think it comes from a good place, it comes across very judgemental, as though she was in some sort of control of what happened to her or could’ve prevented it. I read her story and didn’t think anything she did was out of line; what was out of line was the awful thing these men chose to do without her consent.

I just think it can be a very damaging rhetoric especially for the future to be in the mindset that men are sex fiends. It almost gives them a pass while you have to hold all the responsibility because it’s up to you to stop their advances, as if “no” isn’t enough, or being asleep isn’t enough. They just can’t help themselves so we have the pressure of being exceptionally vigilant.

I’m not naive. I’m all for staying safe, but what baffles me is that as women we are forced to have this voice at the back of our mind questioning if this action will lead to this and the end result of that, all for going to a bar and having a drink with a guy you’re interested in.

She was clear she wanted nothing further in both cases, so you can understand why I’m confused why her story would warrant that response.

I agree with @EveHarrington on taking a break from the dating world for a while. Open up to your therapist. That should be your safe space and there’s nothing you should feel judged for.

I can relate in a lot of ways to your story. I met my abuser through Tinder and skimmed over the usual small talk much like you did and met with him. We met at my flat (before receiving a lot of backlash for this, I informed friends and even had one meet him briefly before we were alone), and had a seemingly normal date getting to know one another. Long story short, we ended up kissing and before things advanced I informed him I was on my period (a blessing I thought that would remove the pressure of sex as I had never been intimate like that before). He proceeded to try coerce me into performing oral sex (I said no many times) and ultimately r*ped me. After everything, I still let him stay and share my bed to finish our movie, where he took the opportunity to try to force me again (this time giving up after I continued to protest).

I felt a lot of shame in admitting that during therapy. That I hadn’t immediately kicked him out and asked him to leave, feeling somehow that that invalidated my story. But what he did was not justifiable, regardless of how long I’d know him, despite the fact we were alone, even though I kissed him. I did not consent to what he ultimately forced me to do. It was fear and confusion and me in survival mode that let him stay, and I hope I’ll eventually stop feeling so guilty for that.

In terms of moving on with new relationships, men in general have been a struggle for me. I’ve always had low self esteem and a lot of anxiety and mistrusting feelings when it comes to men (relating to my past); the assault just intensified that. Hyper vigilance, feeling uneasy but still craving this idea of love (in my guess to compensate for the way I feel about myself, hoping that they can be the one to “fix me”).

I wish I had helpful advice; just know you’re not alone. And the only people who should feel ashamed are these disgusting human beings who don’t know the meaning of no and take our kindness and comfort for something to abuse. xx
 
I don’t like what you’ve written.

Though I think it comes from a good place, it comes acro...

I didn't write my response to this thread with the intention anyone might like it. I said it how it is. I have enough experience in my life to know, and to paraphrase one of your comments, too many men ARE exactly that, sex fiends. Men do not ask women on dates because they want to be their buddy. They do it to persue their sexual attraction for a woman and like it on not, their ultimate goal is to have sex with them.
This in no way puts responsibility for what happened to the victim of a date rape on her because she trusted a man who then raped her or because she didn't realise what he was planning when he gave her alcohol or invited her to his house.
The responsibility for rape is NEVER on the victim. Period.
What I tried to do is raise her awareness to the fact that too many men are not what they seem when they smile and ask a girl out on a date, and there are things she can do to ensure if she is ever again unknowingly in the company of one of the predatorial sex fiends, he doesn't get the opportunity he is looking for, and that is by treating ALL men she doesn't yet know very well, especially first dates and blind dates as potentially one of them.
 
Further to my previous comment I could reel off instance after instance of my own experiences when the kind of circumstances I described arose.
One of the earliest when I was a teenager at a party, a girl from school who didn't like me and I didnt like her was there. She had too much to drink, she was outside throwing up. There were several guys from our school standing around her one of them was behind her with his arms around her waist while she leant forward throwing up. She quit throwing up and just remained in that position leaning forward with her hands resting on the ground. She appeared to be passing out while the guy continued to hold her by the waist from behind in what was an obvious sexual position. That did not go unnoticed by the other guys and one of them said, while gesturing towards the backyard of the house, let's take her back there and f*ck her. None of them said no, they were just looking at each other, obviously considering it.
This was 5 guys I had grown up with, that I thought I knew. The one who initiated the idea started trying to get her by the feet so him and the one with her waist could carry her. He said to the others come on, help me, we can all do her. That was when she seemed to come out of her stupor and woke up to what was going on and she screamed NO!! and started struggling. That was when I stepped in and pushed them away from her. I ended up taking her home to my house.
I don't think she remembered anything about it afterwards. She said thanks for letting her sleep on our couch but that was the only time we spoke.
That's just one instance I could go on and on about others.​
 
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