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Dom Violence Why am i so terrified to leave?

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SameBoat

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Hi everyone,

I've been following this forum for a while and finally decided to make an account so I can post.. I was very inspired by @courelly s brave choices and actions and I wish I could do the same. Reading through all of your stories has me wondering if I really am in a special situation or if I need to just suck it up and take off without saying anything. maybe y'all can give me some perspective..
I'll try to keep this brief but here a short account of the last 10 years leading up to this:

I met my guy when I was fresh out of high school and headed to college. I became good friends with his sister and the three of us hung out often. that first year was great.
At the end of the summer his sister and I were in a car accident and unfortunately she passed away while I walked away with minor injuries. (I wasn't driving) This obviously was a huge blow to all of us and for me was my first experience with death up close or even anyone i knew well.
We stayed together through that and through the grief and everything i'm sure i overlooked thousands of red flags. I don't even want to type all this out now, i feel like such an idiot. But it is reality so here goes.
He was cheating on me with many women, even dating some of them and when i finally confronted him about it and said it was over he chased me down the road and swore up and down the i was the one he 'chooses' and blah blah blah. So, i of course was very flattered and very worried about what he was doing on his own so we moved in together.

At this point he became very condescending about money and mean saying I was lazy and never paid for anything (Quit my job to move there and the new job i got right away was slow to start on hours so I had some money but he had a lot from a settlement)

Cue escalating emotional abuse and we went on like that for a while until one day, I can't even remember what started it but he slammed my laptop down on my hands and when i pushed his hands away he shoved me hard on to the floor. Nothing like this had ever happend to me, so i jumped up and shoved him back away from me. At this point he choked me until I was unconscious on the floor.. I can't really remember what happened after that but he blamed me for coming at him saying he had to defend himself and I stayed.
That was 5 years ago. Since then he has choked me unconcious again, kicked a door out the wrong way and cut my face with it, kicked me in the face, drove me out in to the woods saying he was going to beat me (for implying that I could 'take him'), tried to choke me several times but now that i know he goes for the throat I can usually wriggle enough to keep him from getting a hold there, and the list goes on and on..

We run a business together (not very well due to constant fighting) but when i try to leave it always comes down to I'm abandoning that and don't care.
This is only a small part of it, the worst part is the day to day, which I've seen described over and over again here on the forum. Its like from the time he opens his eyes he is just this miserable human being who cannot handle even the slightest inconvenience or disagreement from anyone. He flies off the handle, breaking things (all mine not his of course) calling any and everyone the most foul names he can think of..
My concern is that he is an actual psychopath.. as in the small percentage of abusers who crazy enough to kill. I have attempted to leave in the past but every time I come back or don't actually leave because he goes in to a screaming crying raging destroying episode.
He has two sons, one lives with us and one recently moved back to his moms due to all the fighting around here and my guy cares less and less what they see hear or think about the fighting. they are also part of what keeps me here, even though they are not mine i love them dearly and I don't want to abandon them. But also how am i supposed to have a relationship with them when they hear all the terrible things he says? They know that he is the crazy one but i also don't want to model this type of relationship for them
As for me, I am a strong and smart woman, very independent and capable (i paid all the bills for the last 4 years) and I never ever thought I should be in this situation. I'm the one that tells everyone else to drop it like its not when a relationship isn't working. I am successful at any job I've had and generally very well liked by people i work with and friends so i really don't think the terrible things he says about my character are true, I know myself to be very easy going and laid back, which is probably what got me here.

sooo.. why can't I just leave? I'm afraid he will come after me, and on the one hand i feel like that's being irrational but on the other hand I feel like he's the type of person who would wait to get their revenge until they won't get caught. I've thought about reporting it but he is from the small town we live in and i feel like even telling people what happened would be enough to trigger major retaliation for me 'ruining his rep'

So i guess the million dollar question is how to i extricate myself from this situation? I've pretty much decided i need to leave without saying anything because he will never let me go calmly but i also know that will trigger his rage.

That's enough for now.. didn't keep it very short :)
 
Hi @SameBoat - welcome. I hope we can support you with making the right decisions. Have you been diagnosed with PTSD? Do you have a therapist? Do you have anyone in your real world aside from your husband/partner's children that know about this abuse?

I don't want to answer with a really long message straight up. It isn't a simple thing. You have to be ready and willing to move on. It's takes a lot of courage.

I have met a lot of women who are great in their professional lives - smart, educated, loads of good character & treated with respect etc but when they go home they are abused.

So whilst I think each person's situation is different and special and unique. Not so different, special or unique that you deserve the kind of treatment you have described. Nobody deserves disrespect and abuse. :):hug:
 
It's very hard to leave an abusive relationship, nobody here blames you for your doubts or judges you in any way. Fear is reasonable in this circunstances too.

I was in an abusive relationship too and eventually left.
I do think you will do what's right for you, writing this is just the first step.

As for reporting, it's entirely up to you and your feelings of safety. Safety first!
 
Thank you all for your responses. I do have a strong sense of wanting to model a healthy relationship for them.. the oldest who still lives with us is 14 and has his own little girlfriend now and I would hate to be the one to contribute towards him being in a relationship even remotely similar to this and i worry that he could be on the giving or receiving end of it. He is the absolute greatest kid in the world I would do anything to be able to take him with me.
On a side note, I've been reading Bundy and this forum and all kinds of materials in the last several months and among many other things I have come to the realization that the kids' mom probably isn't as bat shit crazy as he makes her out to be, she is a little crazy but now my view is that that stems from years of abuse by him and it affected her differently than it does me. I've always been neutral towards her though and she's always hated me so not much chance of talking that one out lol

I have told one friend the specifics of what he has done to me as far as the physical abuse and i have told watered down nicer versions to a couple friends, usually when I'm about to make an escape attempt. Right now it feels like I'm being held hostage, I don't have the option to end the relationship or it sends him in to a deadly rage. So a few people know things aren't great. OH. His mom knows.
Ok this was really crushing for me and made me realize that I am alone in this and let it get this far and now it's up to me to extricate myself from this. So that night when he drove me off in to the woods (only turned around after i reached over and started honking the horn and his mom called and i kept repeating what road we were on over and over) so we make it back to the house and she was over visiting (lives a couple hours away) and I told her what happened and some of the things that had happened like he had pointed a gun at himself and me before and the statistics of that and that I was leaving this night. To my shock she ASKED ME TO STAY. I can't remember what the reasoning was, I'm sure its that she didn't want to be there with him when I left because he is as abusive towards he as he is towards me minus the physical but he says terrible things, uses all her money, manipulates her.. and this is a woman that I call my mom (my real mom lives in costa rica, we are close but not in distance and of course I haven't been able to visit) and I that was kind of my last lifeline that telling her would be a safe way to get out but even as I write this I know that that is probably the worst ally (as far as someone who has only my best interests at heart and absolutely wants me to get away from him) and I should have expected that answer.
My family probably suspects something is wrong but I haven't confirmed anything and they don't really ask.. I think i will be most ashamed to admit it to them because even though I know they love me I also know that's not how they raised me.. The me that I was when I first met him would have never stood for the things I'm taking now.


Ok one last question.. So I am not a big girl, but i'm tall 5'8 and very athletic, he is 5'10 and very slim but also veery muscular and athletic. I'm am pretty fit and strong for a girl but not a body builder or anything.. He calls me manly, which if any of you saw a picture of me you would laugh hysterically at that, but he seems to think we are evenly matched because of this? I weigh more than him but that's really because he has an 'eating disorder' where he refuses to make himself any meals and wants it served to him but only during the 20 minute window when he is hungry, otherwise he won't touch it. He says that he has to defend himself against me but I know that's not true because when i am fighting for my life from him I have to be very careful not to hurt him too much and only fight defensively because it will be so much worse if I did hurt him. And not only that, it's not in my nature to be violent I've never been in a fight except with him, even when he is trying to hurt me I still see the person I love somewhere in there and know that punching him in the face would have consequences that last longer than this argument we are having now. But I guess therein lies the difference in a normal person and an abuser. *lightbulb*

Thanks for listening guys, I think it is helpful to write this stuff out.. it seems so crazy in black and white like that.

Also should maybe note that he doesn't drink and neither do I but he smokes pot all day every day and is an absolute nightmare when he even gets close to running out. I smoke daily too, but I think it's more of a coping method, anytime i talk about quitting he says dont cause then he'll have to deal with me being a bitch.. funny though because now he has been out of town for two days and I haven't smoked once or even wanted to and have been happy as a clam to be able to wake up in peace and quiet. But that is a rarity that is always preceded by days of anxiety and then a hysterical fit when its time to leave that results in him leaving hours late for whatever it is.
 
Hi SameBoat..

Really glad you have posted and are talking..with us or anyone but that is key. Mine isolated me to keep the "crazy under the roof" and over time I lost my perspective ala PTSD raging.

come to the realization that the kids' mom probably isn't as bat shit crazy as he makes her out to be

Same here. Early on I thoroughly questioned and ultimately bought his story of the events. YEARS later I finally meet his family and the older sister (to her credit) called BS on his whole story. That was horrifying....I never met the gal but overtime she raised the kids to be healthy and successful....so it was a funny twist that later in my marriage I defended her. I feel bad...never knew her but believed his story.

So I am not a big girl, but i'm tall 5'8 and very athletic, he is 5'10 and very slim

I am 5'9" and dead even with mine. Very athletic as well. Narcs are oddly...self restricting....mine has odd eating patterns and while in some ways it is healthy..his thoughts driving them are weird. His talk that you are "even" physically....he's gaslighting you. My ex's wife was obese - happened during their marriage. He complained about that seemingly legitimately. I am lean and athletic...so he he would touch me then mutter "all bones here" little things. Never tell me I looked nice. Oddly...he pushed food on me! Its all games and my or her weight was a manipulative tool only.

And athletically I am just a disappointment to him. But I can run an ultra and I did high altitude mountaineering with him. Fact is I am far more fit than average...and he ridiculed me. First he "trained me" and then I "didn't perform to my potential."

Get it? Did I mention I am in my 50's and can do this stuff?

There is no winning believe me..or better put no REASON to what is happening.

Truth is leaving is BRUTAL hard. But I made it to the other side under terrible circumstances (for me) and I'm free. I am thankful every single day.

I grew up with addicts. I was always thrilled that I didn't have addictive behaviors.

He loved wine...I am sad to say that over time I started drinking with him. He like the food actually pushes me. I know he was "self medicating" but over time...wine in the evening let me sleep, so much tension and unease built over the years. I was intrinsically ashamed..not an alchoholic....but using alcohol for a purpose. Its a slippery slope....makes me sad to think about it now.

I kicked alcohol immediately when he was gone. It was easy to be honest. My days were ...just normal, nothing creepy happening and I just didn't need it. I went months with nothing and fine. Now, occasionally in a social setting.

Fact is I was "self medicating" too....and with tension and stress gone....I'm back to "normal" almost overnight and so happy about that.

Keep talking, it is very nice to meet you and your decisions are your own...there is no expectation you do anything. Its a journey for all of us and truth is...I think there comes a point for "ready". Mine came and had it happened 2 yrs earlier..I wasn't ready. But the time did come.

Best, Whirlwind
 
Can you tell your family? I worry about your safety.

My ex's mom also told me to stay.. oddly enough once he went to the hospital with a kidney stone and she forbade me to visit lol.. i didnt want to anyway and didn't go.. he was supposed to go to his parents house but went to stay with me after, I told him I didn't want him there but he stayed anyway.

Plus, he forced food on me and then controlled my weight. If I gained 1lb he would tell me to stop eating. He trained me.. After that I developed an eating disorder.

He also had a son, eventually I had to turn my back and decide that as much as I loved the kid they weren't my family to save.

You're not alone. Ask for help from your friends and family.

I manipulated him to leave like it was his choice. Took me months, but he thought it was his decision to leave and I was safe. Something to consider..
 
Yes!! With the athletics! So we hike together and used to train together but now he doesn't really workout because he just blames it on the fact that he hasn't eaten (Read:I haven't fed him) but when we do workout or do anything he expects me to be great but not so great that I make him look bad.. so its like you said there's no winning.
I have a competition next weekend, its something I've wanted to do for 3 years but every year he finds a way to get me not to, different manipulations he doesn't outright say I can't go. But this year I am determined to do it and I have saved up my own money to get there and do everything. He is supposed to come with but we'll see... every trip or holiday turns in to a nightmare of monologues and complaints.

Can you go to a shelter in a different town?

Hah figured out how to quote ;)
I can, I have a car and family and friends all over the state and country who would help me in an instant but its sad to admit that I dont know if they can help me get out and I would hate for one of them to get hurt in the process of it. Lately when he gets too out of control I will leave the house and sleep in my car somewhere (I have money for a hotel but too cheap lol) but even then I'm too scared to leave leave like leave town.

I manipulated him to leave like it was his choice. Took me months, but he thought it was his decision to leave and I was safe. Something to consider..

We are at the point where he constantly tells me/suggests/comments that we aren't compatible and shouldn't be together and he could be so much happier and I deserve better etc etc, this ranges from calmer monologues to screaming fits of i hate you BUT as soon as i agree that yes it would be better if we took some time apart or say that I want to split of he freaks out and loses it out of control again. I don't have any love for this man, I mean I do but I hate him he is the most vile human I have ever known. Definitely a narc
So i feel like i'm being held hostage. I have to play the 'no i do want to be together I still want to try..' or its a smashing things destroying fit of rage.
I think the best way to leave si without saying anything but he's already made it very clear that he takes deep offense to this and considers it very rude (more rude than hitting someone apparently) so I worry about the ramifications of doing that. He doesn't stalk or follow anyone and my hope is that he would soon be distracted by all the women he's been missing out on on facebook and wherever else haha but who knows, its been 10 years
 
I should tell my family.. My dad knows a little bit. I know as soon as i tell them he would be here in an instant to take we away (well not an instant because he is a military contractor overseas lol) but I can't even imagine how that would go and I'm scared he would try to hurt anyone who came to take me away. I leave the house for work so could slip out then but still have to confront the fact of telling him at some point.
 
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