lostforgottensoul
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Ok, so my job is amazing employee wise. They are empatheic to employee needs and go out of their way to meet them. They treat employees like family members. There has been little issue until now and for the most part, it is a miss read of their end.
Let me explain. Their attendence policy is far lacking. They have personal and sick leave, which I though was the end all. Have it and you use it without getting in trouble. That was not correct. A year that's what I thought and learned in December that's not correct. You can have all the sick and personal time all you want, and still get in trouble for calling out as it is about patterns. But, patterns can be seen and can be wrong. So, when you lay out 16 (now 18) days out in a year, they could look like a pattern, without context. 3 days this month, 3 days 2 months later, maybe a day 2 months later, maybe nothing for 4 months but lay them out for anyone, without any context, just dates and they could look like a pattern. And unknowingly, all year, I have accentently laid out a call out pattern. It has been a bad year for me getting sick wise. But, what they are actually seeing is get sick, try to work for 2 or 3 of my 5 day work week trying to get to my days off, get sicker, be forced to call out the last 3 or 2 days of my work week. Or be forced to call out the 2 or even the last one. But, because there are 3 days about every 4th month, at least, and the 2 days between there, it lays out like a pattern. When it's just good work ethic in a disabled body...who gets sick much faster then the typical person but can work fulltime. I think 16 days is very excessive in one year. It was a bad year. No one is looking at the first 9 months I worked there. June to the following March (this call out "pattern" starts in March) and didn't call out once. But it's now 2018 so I guess that's all that matters.
Anyway, I have the flu and bronconitis and on the edge of like pnuemonia (which would mean 3 more days in the hospital...if not more as the more you get pneumonia the harder it is to treat thus the longer you are in the hospital. This will be my 4th time, if I do get it) if I cannot stablize my blood oxygen above 92%. It's average at about 90 righr now but I can get it higher so I know it's not pneumonia yet.
Anyway, 3 days ago and the day after, I pushed myself to work though I work in a call center and had no voice and had to whisper all day long and even though I had a cough that was so super deep into the chest that literally it paralyzed me. Even though every customer asked me why in the world I was working and every employee gave me that dirty look about being congagious, I was told that my 16 days I called out from March to Oct was a pattern and so, I was terrified to call out. Even though, I drove home dizzy as f*ck, feeling as drunk as f*ck the last day I worked (Sun), with a head that was about to explode with one of the worst headaches. [Edited to add: Forgot the 102 temp I had Sun that I worked with that finally broke over night Sun but started late day Sun and started to rise quickly and stopped at 102.2]. I should not have been driving [ETA: Fever included] and I wondered how in the world I was going to do this on a Monday morning with Orlando traffic.
Well, yesterday morning I couldn't stand. I stumbled over myself. At 6:15 when my alarm goes off. I tried. I showered (I think). I actually don't remember much between when I woke up at 6:15 and when I finally called in and slink on the couch knowing there was no way in hell I was putting myself in the driver seat of a car. I slept until about 10 and that's when I finally felt ok and able to drive the 2 blocks to the walk in clinic that Dr said no work until after Thurs then after that I went straight to work to let them know (after the pharmacy to learn the entire town is short on Tamaflu generic. Had to wait to get it a bit later today for that but got the antibotic and Prednisone yesterday at least). I thought that would be a good thing but maybe that makes it look like I am not sick enough? I am sick enough to drop vapping within a second and not want it when highly addicted to it (come off cigs that way). But they don't see that stuff. With their "pattern without any context" attendence policy, anything, literally, can be read into it. When I went there yesterday, I went to my sup to explain and he said, as all sups do "take care of yourself medically" and then he said "we'll talk when you are better". That didn't make me feel better but I said ok and took my note HR. HR took the totally vague work note that said I was to be off Monday to Thursday but it didn't explain why. The page that explained why I would of handed over without hesitation except it has part of my meds of it. Seriquel XR 200 megs and Xanax .5 mgs. I don't work to know those at the moment. There will be a time for that possibly but not now. When I pointed it out she said "oh, I just made a note on here, it's ok". I said "but this says more then the flu. This has broncontis as well as my blood oxygen being at 89 and my need to seek emergency treatment if it doesn't stablize..." (a walk in clinic will send you to the ER with a blood oxygen of anything below 92 if they can't get it to come up. We were able to with deeper breaths, after the breathing treatment but the Dr had to walk me through the deep breaths. The weezing is very loud.) Anyway, my point to HR is that, that page shows positive for influenzea, broncotis (which i am not such has a test but suprised to see it with the flu and not one or the other) which proves why I need the days off, and it also shows that I may need to go to the hospital, for more says off and why. She kept insisting that the one vauge page with her "flu" sticky note was enough. Though, it's missing broncontis which is important to the possible penumonia/hopistal stay/more time off.
Anyway, I accepted that and asked about it being approved. As, when my sup went over the 16 days in a year "patteren", those are unapproved and unplanned. What is approved? Well, that's when HR takes a medical document for an unplanned absense, sends it over to management to ask them to approve it. That doesn't go against you. But, there is not set anything for this and not every doctor's note will be approved. Thus why I was pushing so hard for them to take the other paper that proved how sick I was. But, this now looks like more of the same pattern. Worked 3 days, (was only just getting sick the first day was sick Sat and really), off 2.
This is becoming way longer then intended so let me get to the point. HR told me that it is up to leadership and management to decide if it's enough for approve unplanned or not approved unplanned (my sup said it was up to HR). So, I went back to my sup (managment)...who makes those calls and told me that they simply usually side with what HR said. He said that they usually take HR's word for it. Have to go off the pattern. I told him that if I knew I coul be written up, I would force myself to work he repeated that I have to medical take care of myself, but they have a business to run and with Florida being a State they can literally fire you without reason, and with such a vauge attendence policy, I am terrified that they will not approve this and will not even bother writting me up and will fire me. I mean, my stats have gotten better but those words just won't leave my head. You have to take care of yourself but we have a business to run to.
Others talk about your thoughts on all of this as I am just in a mental frenzy. I didnt have a chance to talk any further with my sup as he just kept saying the same thing, and my body was doing way worse yesterday and had already driven about. I did take a copy of the doctor's note but i dont think it will matters. Not in Florida. Florida is an at-will State. They can fire you and don't need a reason. What do you all think? A write up I can handle. It would suck but I can handle it. But their attendence policy is so vauge that it doesn't even call for corrective action. It just says up to termination. Though I don't have that part memorized and the only part of the handibook they email you is code of conduct when hired. The rest I believe is in their intranet. I cannot find their attendence policy online for nothing and it's also not in my email. So it's not like I can look there but I don't remember it having a set up corrective action before termination. Wouldn't they do that first? I am not written up for anything else. I go talked to about my tone but that's back when I was first hired and my AHT is way down. I'm all internally worked up over this but those words "you have to take care of yourself medically but we have a business to run too" has really freaked me out! Help! So I can properly rest and get better!
Let me explain. Their attendence policy is far lacking. They have personal and sick leave, which I though was the end all. Have it and you use it without getting in trouble. That was not correct. A year that's what I thought and learned in December that's not correct. You can have all the sick and personal time all you want, and still get in trouble for calling out as it is about patterns. But, patterns can be seen and can be wrong. So, when you lay out 16 (now 18) days out in a year, they could look like a pattern, without context. 3 days this month, 3 days 2 months later, maybe a day 2 months later, maybe nothing for 4 months but lay them out for anyone, without any context, just dates and they could look like a pattern. And unknowingly, all year, I have accentently laid out a call out pattern. It has been a bad year for me getting sick wise. But, what they are actually seeing is get sick, try to work for 2 or 3 of my 5 day work week trying to get to my days off, get sicker, be forced to call out the last 3 or 2 days of my work week. Or be forced to call out the 2 or even the last one. But, because there are 3 days about every 4th month, at least, and the 2 days between there, it lays out like a pattern. When it's just good work ethic in a disabled body...who gets sick much faster then the typical person but can work fulltime. I think 16 days is very excessive in one year. It was a bad year. No one is looking at the first 9 months I worked there. June to the following March (this call out "pattern" starts in March) and didn't call out once. But it's now 2018 so I guess that's all that matters.
Anyway, I have the flu and bronconitis and on the edge of like pnuemonia (which would mean 3 more days in the hospital...if not more as the more you get pneumonia the harder it is to treat thus the longer you are in the hospital. This will be my 4th time, if I do get it) if I cannot stablize my blood oxygen above 92%. It's average at about 90 righr now but I can get it higher so I know it's not pneumonia yet.
Anyway, 3 days ago and the day after, I pushed myself to work though I work in a call center and had no voice and had to whisper all day long and even though I had a cough that was so super deep into the chest that literally it paralyzed me. Even though every customer asked me why in the world I was working and every employee gave me that dirty look about being congagious, I was told that my 16 days I called out from March to Oct was a pattern and so, I was terrified to call out. Even though, I drove home dizzy as f*ck, feeling as drunk as f*ck the last day I worked (Sun), with a head that was about to explode with one of the worst headaches. [Edited to add: Forgot the 102 temp I had Sun that I worked with that finally broke over night Sun but started late day Sun and started to rise quickly and stopped at 102.2]. I should not have been driving [ETA: Fever included] and I wondered how in the world I was going to do this on a Monday morning with Orlando traffic.
Well, yesterday morning I couldn't stand. I stumbled over myself. At 6:15 when my alarm goes off. I tried. I showered (I think). I actually don't remember much between when I woke up at 6:15 and when I finally called in and slink on the couch knowing there was no way in hell I was putting myself in the driver seat of a car. I slept until about 10 and that's when I finally felt ok and able to drive the 2 blocks to the walk in clinic that Dr said no work until after Thurs then after that I went straight to work to let them know (after the pharmacy to learn the entire town is short on Tamaflu generic. Had to wait to get it a bit later today for that but got the antibotic and Prednisone yesterday at least). I thought that would be a good thing but maybe that makes it look like I am not sick enough? I am sick enough to drop vapping within a second and not want it when highly addicted to it (come off cigs that way). But they don't see that stuff. With their "pattern without any context" attendence policy, anything, literally, can be read into it. When I went there yesterday, I went to my sup to explain and he said, as all sups do "take care of yourself medically" and then he said "we'll talk when you are better". That didn't make me feel better but I said ok and took my note HR. HR took the totally vague work note that said I was to be off Monday to Thursday but it didn't explain why. The page that explained why I would of handed over without hesitation except it has part of my meds of it. Seriquel XR 200 megs and Xanax .5 mgs. I don't work to know those at the moment. There will be a time for that possibly but not now. When I pointed it out she said "oh, I just made a note on here, it's ok". I said "but this says more then the flu. This has broncontis as well as my blood oxygen being at 89 and my need to seek emergency treatment if it doesn't stablize..." (a walk in clinic will send you to the ER with a blood oxygen of anything below 92 if they can't get it to come up. We were able to with deeper breaths, after the breathing treatment but the Dr had to walk me through the deep breaths. The weezing is very loud.) Anyway, my point to HR is that, that page shows positive for influenzea, broncotis (which i am not such has a test but suprised to see it with the flu and not one or the other) which proves why I need the days off, and it also shows that I may need to go to the hospital, for more says off and why. She kept insisting that the one vauge page with her "flu" sticky note was enough. Though, it's missing broncontis which is important to the possible penumonia/hopistal stay/more time off.
Anyway, I accepted that and asked about it being approved. As, when my sup went over the 16 days in a year "patteren", those are unapproved and unplanned. What is approved? Well, that's when HR takes a medical document for an unplanned absense, sends it over to management to ask them to approve it. That doesn't go against you. But, there is not set anything for this and not every doctor's note will be approved. Thus why I was pushing so hard for them to take the other paper that proved how sick I was. But, this now looks like more of the same pattern. Worked 3 days, (was only just getting sick the first day was sick Sat and really), off 2.
This is becoming way longer then intended so let me get to the point. HR told me that it is up to leadership and management to decide if it's enough for approve unplanned or not approved unplanned (my sup said it was up to HR). So, I went back to my sup (managment)...who makes those calls and told me that they simply usually side with what HR said. He said that they usually take HR's word for it. Have to go off the pattern. I told him that if I knew I coul be written up, I would force myself to work he repeated that I have to medical take care of myself, but they have a business to run and with Florida being a State they can literally fire you without reason, and with such a vauge attendence policy, I am terrified that they will not approve this and will not even bother writting me up and will fire me. I mean, my stats have gotten better but those words just won't leave my head. You have to take care of yourself but we have a business to run to.
Others talk about your thoughts on all of this as I am just in a mental frenzy. I didnt have a chance to talk any further with my sup as he just kept saying the same thing, and my body was doing way worse yesterday and had already driven about. I did take a copy of the doctor's note but i dont think it will matters. Not in Florida. Florida is an at-will State. They can fire you and don't need a reason. What do you all think? A write up I can handle. It would suck but I can handle it. But their attendence policy is so vauge that it doesn't even call for corrective action. It just says up to termination. Though I don't have that part memorized and the only part of the handibook they email you is code of conduct when hired. The rest I believe is in their intranet. I cannot find their attendence policy online for nothing and it's also not in my email. So it's not like I can look there but I don't remember it having a set up corrective action before termination. Wouldn't they do that first? I am not written up for anything else. I go talked to about my tone but that's back when I was first hired and my AHT is way down. I'm all internally worked up over this but those words "you have to take care of yourself medically but we have a business to run too" has really freaked me out! Help! So I can properly rest and get better!
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