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News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

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With everyone's kids at home and the parents working from home, is added stress for the parents. My counselor texted me and told of the situation of her kids being out of school, and asked if I could come at an earlier time, for my appt. Worked for me.
CoronaV really hasn't affected my job.. Maybe 1 of them but we'll get it figure it out.
I went out and bought some extra cat food for today and bottled water.. Otherwise staying indoors. I traveled to MO today and went to the mall. People were there walking around. It was nice to get out on a weekend... Away from the news.
 
So I guess the best idea is to wash or spray those surfaces or if that's not possible refrain from touching with hands?
10% bleach is what’s used in labs.

Our very first microbiology experiment (second? We also swabbed common surfaces, but those take a few days to grow) was testing 5/10/15/20/25% etc all the way up to 100% bleach on pathogenic bacteria, viruses, fungus, & parasites... as well as all the spray cleansers, hand “wash” (note, never buy that nonsense, it’s just fragrance+thickening agent. Cleans Jack all. Ditto beauty bars, etc. Beauty bars are water soluble hand lotion), various soaps & “soaps”, as well as microbial loads in boiling water (if you don’t boil for more than 10 minutes? -Almost- Might as well not boil it at all.)

Very much like entering a tear gas chamber with a gas mask on, then removing it to stream snot out of every orafice as you cough/hack/piss/puke your way to the exit ... so you can learn to trust your equipment/yep these suckers really DO work! :woot:... it’s a course requirement to get students to understand how important 10% bleach, soap+water, & autoclaving is when working with microbes.

Clearly, it’s only about a zillion times easier to sanitize hard surfaces with 10% bleach. Most people aren’t going to want to ruin their fabrics with it.

Dealing with an immunocompromised child? Every time I left the house I’d strip my clothes into the washing machine, start it, then step into the shower, scrub pink, brand new clothes. Even though it’s been years since we had to be that vigilant? I still feel gross if I’m transitioning between being in public and being at home without stripping and showering. Eeeeeeeeew bringing the outside inside. Icky.
I ordered some masks online. I felt guilty but with my asthma and tendency to get upper respiratory infections I want to have at least one on hand. I could only get any if I bought 100. I will check in with the older and imune-compromised folks I know and give them masks if they need and then take the rest to the clinic
They’re only effective until the moisture from your breath makes them damp. The moment masks get wet you might as well not be wearing them, except as a reminder not to touch your face. That’s why pros change masks not just between each patient, but if they’re with the same patient for an extended period of time, and why people with supporessed immune systems can easily be going through 3-5 masks per hour when they’re out in public in humid climates (the average nurse can go through 30-50 per shift if they’re masking for each patient, every time they gel in/out. Which is part of the crazy making, that’s normal, and now there’s govt. idiots thinking that allotting 1 mask per nurse per day, is somehow a boon to them? O_o Ummmm :banghead: Anyhow, point being, if you’re interacting with the public for work, you’re going to need all 100 and probably a few hundred more... unless you’re talking about the hot/semirigid/vacuum sealed masks with virus filters? As opposed to standard disposable masks? Because those have a semi-decent lifespan. I still hated the “evil masks”... whether Bactria filter, virus filter, or both... they’re a bitch to breathe through, the sweat down your face keeps breaking the seal, & your eyes are still totally exposed, so it just felt like WTF? Why up precautions this far, without requiring full face masks (gas masks) or suits? It just always seemed strange to me. Because in the field we had gas masks with different can filters, when we were far LESS exposed to the same pathogen, than locked in a room or vehicle with it. So it just drove me crazy.

Jeeeze. Little bluebird of happiness me. :facepalm: ?
 
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Here's a guy that bought 1700 bottles of hand sanitizer and sold one for $80 but Amazon pulled the plug on price gouging

1700?!? This is insane. Hand sanitizer isn’t the end all and be all of virus protection, but it is one tool in the toolbox. He essentially prevented others from being able to purchase it and help protect themselves. I couldn’t read the article because I don’t subscribe, so I just hope the end of the article stated how he decided to give them away to those who need them.

I finally got an appt with my T due this week. But am worried if I should go with more cases stacking up around me/them.

I think you should go. I may not be able to see my therapist at some point so I’m getting in every appointment I can now. I’m going to call her tonight and let her know that she can find me in front of the building instead of in the waiting room. Seeing her via Skype etc is not an option.

If people stopped buying toliet paper and self quaritined themselves, maybe it wouldn't spread so fast.

The local grocery store had a truck of paper products come in this morning and it all sold immediately. I’m sure people were buying cart loads. ? I am stocked with 14 rolls (purchased pre-panic), and if I run out, I’m just going to switch to cloth. Not a big deal. I knew that keeping a bag of rags would pay off at some point! ?

I have been going into small grocers (mom & pop shops) and even the smaller chains (Safeway & Co-op) haven't been nearly as crazy as Wal-mart, Costco and Loblaws.

This is what I’m going to do tomorrow. A friend said some of the smaller stores around town are still well stocked.

Meanwhile, the US looses their shit and shops not giving a shit about the elderly or disabled.

The manager at my grocery store is from NY and her brother said they are having problems with people stealing things like toilet paper from the elderly in the parking lot!. How low do you have to go to steal toilet paper from the elderly?!?! ???

I usually order my groceries on Amazon Prime Now.

Is this easy to do? I want to order groceries for my elderly aunt who lives 4 hours away. She has chronic respiratory problems and I don’t want her going to the grocery store, Walmart, etc.
 
@Friday Yeah, I know. I probably wasn't clear.

I just think my odds of getting really sick with corona are a bit higher than some. It's in case I'm sick. And then, it means I'm going to the doctor or pharmacy. I don't plan to wear it to prevent me from getting sick but to prevent others. And If I'm that sick I'm not going out other than essential appointments. So I don't need a 100 masks. Heh, I said "at least one" because me being me, I'd probably give away all but 1 if I thought others need it more.

hmmm.... I'm so tired I think I'm making no sense at all.
 
Things are changing so fast on the ground here where we have a local outbreak that is growing fast. It's stunning. I just joked with a friend tonight that sh*t is really real because Starbucks closed.

But, on a serious note, more cases being announced at quicker rates. Young active people are getting sick and carrying it all over. Life feels so out of control right now. Locals on the inside of government planning are expecting us to be locked down at least 2-4 months. MONTHS PEOPLE. I have been locked down 2 days. Got to adapt. Fast. On a limited income. But how? Priorities keep changing fast. A week ago, I was looking for new shoes for work, planning on a get together this weekend... Now it's all about distancing, isolation, adjusting to reduced hours and home based work life, slowly continuing to stock up on food, soap I'm not allergic to, first aid, medicines...I just realized I have to get new glasses and plan to now order them online. Problem: My script needs adjustment. CRAP.

Word of advice to anyone not yet in this situation: Consider doing now any preventative health care you might need in the next 6-12 months, now, if possible. I was trying to get that done already, but delayed on the glasses. I thought I was being a little paranoid about a month ago when I could have gotten it done. DANG IT.

We expect curfews and more serious types of controlled containment zones to probably happen this week. I want life back. I want outta here. I want everyone around me to be ok.
 
....and my hospital set up overflow tents today. I could practically throw a stone and hit the hospital (if I was a MLB pitcher), so pretty close. I am going to drive the long way around from now on. Just seeing the tents would upset me.

Even today one of my friends told me he could see the fear on my face. I “fear purchased” masks on Amazon. They won’t get here for a few weeks. I’m seriously not buying the “masks don’t work at all” rhetoric. I didn’t buy the medical ones that are used in doctors offices and hospitals though. I got them because at some point I know I will need to go out for something and it’s just one more tool in the toolbox.....especially since I’m going on 2+ months of an existing respiratory issue.
 
Yes, isn't that horrible, @Neverthesame? Can't anyone in the US respond to the crisis without trying to benefit from it?
nope. It's a big part of our culture -- always look out for number one first. That's why New Orleans went into anarchy withint 72 hours of Hurricaine Katrina. We aren't really raised to support or respect the group and it's times like this that you really see it. It's really sad. The price gouging is so bad that both ebay and Amazon have had to ban people. I read an interview today about the guy who drove all over and snatched up every hand sanitizer he could -- 17,000 of them. Then he started selling then and made 25K in no time at all. He actually defended himself as just doing what he could to get ahead. His whole attitude was that if people died then he guessed they should have had more money to buy what they needed to stay alive. He's banned from amazon so now he has all this hand sanitizer and no where to sell it. While people get sick and die all around him.

Supermarkets are going to be organising a seniors/disableds hour! Opening an hour early with stocked shelves once a week for those of us with disabilities and the elderly to shop without the panic, and with access to what we need
I wish we would do that here. I wish that someone would even think about it here. But have you seen the fights going on at costco over toilet paper? Most recent one was two guys who broke wine bottles to use as weapons against each other over....you guessed it.. toilet paper
Could you imagine the reaction if they shut it down so that the elderly or disabled could actually get a fair shot at getting what they need to live? People would break down the doors. Honestly it depresses the crap out of me to even say I'm American at this point.

One silver lining --- there is a college student who has set up a service to deliver food to the elderly and do their shopping for them. She has about 300 volunteers working with her. Which is just fabulous - if I could just forget that one of the first things that happened after the election was that funding for meals on wheels -- the service that feeds the elderly and homebound- was cut. And no one cared then. So why would we expect anyone to care about them now?

I'm trying to focus on the gal who wants to help, rather than the ones that are just in it for them. But it's getting really hard and the crisis hasn't even hit yet. :( It makes me so sad.
 
@Sideways :hug:
Which is part of the crazy making, that’s normal, and now there’s govt. idiots thinking that allotting 1 mask per nurse per day, is somehow a boon to them?
Hubby came home today and said his work is giving each employee a mask (one. just one) that they are to wear whenever they are in the halls and then store in their locker for the next day. :banghead:

I just read an update saying that the virus is being spread more quickly than they realized by people who aren't showing any symptoms - especially the under 25 crowd. Weird.

I had a coughing fit and G was worried. I had to laugh. I have fibro and allergies - I always feel like crap in the spring. How would I know the difference between coronvirus and a Tuesday??? :laugh:
 
Hope this planet will be able to produce enough TP and maybe if possible also breathing machines... ;-)

As I‘m coughing my lobes of the lung out (Not covid-19, cough-variant-asthma) Now my boss called and said I shouldn’t come, rather get treatment.. handling patients in the clinic and me coughing is no good combination. Getting my steroid inhalers today. We’ve got 600 cases of covid in the City. 6000 cases in the country
 
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:hug::hug: to anyone scrolling on by who needs one.

Very grateful for this space to discuss this so quickly evolving situation. It's quite peculiar having something, other than PTSD, that most everyone here is affected by; directly or indirectly.
 
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