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News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

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Is the anti-malaria vaccine related to this derivative? .. :unsure::( :
Romeo Dallaire joining lawsuit against government over anti-malaria drug

We have about 5000 cases of TB in our core area, I don't know if people are treated with anti-virals or not. I was shocked when I learned this years ago. :(

This is a thread to discuss the worldwide impact the of novel coronavirus (covid-19) and related panic/disruption. It's a place to discuss what is happening around the world, how it may be impacting you and/or how you are coping with it (or not.)

I think the gravity of the situation and it's potential to spread harm should outweigh people's demands to ignore physical distancing, whether it be through ignorance, overwhelm or denial. Minimizing the dangerous potential maximizes it's ability to have the conditions to spread.

Here they test primarily only those symptomatic with a travel history, or those symptomatic with a direct connection to someone who tested positive with one (not considered community transmission). So they say there is no community transmission- because they refuse to test anyone for the most part without a travel history. Which leaves dangerous leeway for undiagnosed transmission.

At this point I am fortunate to be working. However it is also exhausting and nerve-wracking. I worry about immuno-compromised loved ones; family and friends and their loved ones; people I serve. I worry about spreading it unknowingly or asymptomatically. I know whatever I got late december had the same symptomology, but they say that was only the flu, and that was difficult to overcome. A coworker that was ill before me had returned from the US 2 weeks before. Anecdotally she has lost her sense of smell, as some with COVID-19 report.

I, like everyone, has lost many things I relied on. I am doing what I can to redefine need vs want, and reduce public exposure, for others' sakes, not so much out of fear for my own. If it involves a want I try to forego. Though anyone who knows what 'reduced lung function' really means, if you survive but are left with it, would do what is in their power to avoid getting or transmitting it. I know because of a congenital disorder in my family also (one had it occur) lung collapse (pneumothorax) with no known cause (other than the congenital disorder itself) is common. It's a weird feeling, to know these things.

I hate to say it too, but some that act the most clueless are my coworkers. Which is painful.

I do think what is not referenced much is what can be done to improve immune function.

I also find a few things odd: that in a day of Social Media many feel profoundly isolated; that parents don't know what to do with their kids at home (though I understand why they're not accustomed to it); that spouses/ partners report being 'bored' (not a term that I could see someone even sandwiched within this use, let alone towards their partner); that people turn to rage vs unity or faith (which I can also understand why); nor how people cannot understand how it could be anyone affected most seriously. Even if it's a 1-3% mortality (or as high as 14-15% over age 80), it matters if that one is you or someone you love.

On a small side note, I do realize, though I always thought physical touch was only a secondary love language of mine- mostly too because I don't find words easily- not being able to give or receive hugs, touch, kiss, even goodbye etc. is awful. I feel like a wilted flower. :(

Hang in there @Justmehere , and all. I hope you feel better. And hope your pup is safe too. :hug: I can't find an update because so many posts. :(
 
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I stayed up late last night and I saw the graph of the American Covid19 cases going above Italy, then I did the Math and well I had a non PTSD related meltdown. I have been following China (it's not easy to get the information) and Italy quite closely. I am addicted to a couple of American news shows and I try to watch ones with different view points but I can't now. The information they are giving out is just wrong. I just want to take all the Americans and wrap them up in Blankies, and keep them safe. A lot of folks don't know what is going to hit them.

Americans are in for a rough ride.

Italy has more ICU beds per capita than Australia. It's not going to be easy.
 
Maybe I'm mis-reading, but why do you feel attacked and respond defensive?

^Yes you are mis-reading. No I don't feel attacked. You are incorrect about my feelings. I have no idea why you'd think I'm responding defensively because I'm not.

So, moving on....

So I don't have to comb through 122,000 hits on Google...

Oh^ Surely you able to pick out the relevant subject matter that particularly interests you and do your own research if you want to?

I was immunised against TB too. I'm fairly sure most people intending on travelling o/seas (from this country) are recommended to have the vaccination too. So are defence force personnel, police, doctors & nurses and lots of other people who are employed to go to third world countries where TB is an issue. I'm not sure but I don't think having the TB immunisation when younger is the point of the experiment. I think more so, health personnel, who are participating in this particular exercise, are being given another TB injection. But don't quote me on that... perhaps another thing you can look for?

In any case, this virus will probably need many and varied trials before we, humankind get on top of it.

Honestly I thought after the bushfires, drought and my own personal losses last year that 2020 would be the year to press reset and take a positive turn.

I cannot believe this is happening now. It feels surreal. So much so, that each morning I wake and must remind myself that the entire world is in trouble right now. I debate with myself about turning on the news and learning of the infection rate and the casualty rate. Plus the incredible economic impact that it is having on almost everyone I know. I have to shake my head.

I've spent a lot of hours in the last week, every day - using an app to link up with my elderly mother who is on her own now. She's in self-isolation too. Her health is far from good, she's right on the mark for being a high risk person for not making it out to the other side with covid19. She is so far away. I keep thinking please, please, please keep safe, don't go out. She's asking me when all of this will end?
 
I’m hugging the line as to what should really go to my own trauma diary about my own experience (that’s where I’m processing the ins and outs of what it’s like to be sick right now and spikes in PTSD symptoms) but I want to say this: it’s really hard to watch the shit start to hit the fan here at the hospital. I’m sick, meet all the criteria for covid 19, confirmed exposures, and criteria to get hospital care. If it was a week ago, I’d be inside staying overnight for symptom management support. But it’s now. Docs, ER, and myself are faced with very difficult options.

China had no ability to test all cases. Same elsewhere. If you have a fever and cough here, you are assumed to have it and go into spaces with people who do have it and are symptomatic. Only in the US we don’t force it unless you seek care. Even then it’s not forced but you don’t have other options in hot spots.

I can not get tested here. Not even if I’m in the ER for symptoms. ICU patients and healthcare workers are top priority. If I can not manage symptoms at home and have to go inside a hospital... well, if I didn’t have it, then I will. They can no longer isolate sick patients from each other where I am.

Which creates some really difficult dilemmas for doctors, especially for patients that are high risk for coronavirus like me.

Also, they are prioritizing healthcare workers with symptoms on the job for tests so they can figure out which symptomatic healthcare workers have to isolate. My doc caught that in reports. Symptomatic healthcare workers on the job helping covid patients. It’s not just other patients I have to be concerned about but the staff themselves. Also the staff are being run ragged! :( I’m presumed positive but we don’t really know. If we could get a test and I have covid 19, exposure to others isn’t so bad. It’s not a good thing at all as it’s still more to fight off. It’s an option to save my life it needed... for now... But the worst option is if I’m sick from ordinary bugs running around and then catch covid on top of it from walking into a hospital. That’s something that will happen for a number of people around the world. Hospitals already struggle with hospital based infections... and coronavirus just became a new type of hospital based infection.
 
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Which creates some really difficult dilemmas for doctors, especially for patients that are high risk for coronavirus like me.
Assuming you already have supplemental o2... Have you talked to your doctor about getting a PICC line? Homecare is sustainable for a helluva lot longer with IV fluids & meds. Regular IVs aren’t practical, unless you’re married to a phlebotomist or have 3 nursing shifts... but PICC lines are durable as hell. We don’t end up with one every year during flu season? But they’re an absolute godsend & last months when we do.

It’s not a great solution for the public at large, but for pulmonary patients used to managing their conditions / have already climbed that mountain of a learning curve? It would make sense.

Ditto, I know quite a few homecare nurses who instead of taking whole shifts with one family, are transitioning to being visiting nurses. In peds, parents are the failsafe for a kid taking a turn for the worse & needing to either be brought in or for the doc to adjust meds... but a visiting nurse can provide the same surety // profoundly limits contact.
 
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I think iTs really interesting this thread has fallen off. It's not first in my feed in fact, the two times I've come here today, it's not in my feed at all.

Stephen Fry said in a tweet "You can't get your haircut". I just let myself have it with my clippers, since none of my family thinks I should ask them for help with anything,. God forbid.

Its really short but, it was anyway. I used almost the smallest plastic guard thing. I went slow it wasn't really that much hair. I just can't fade it toward the front like they were doing at the barber (sorta) because try as I might, I can't stand next to myself. Now hopefully I'll keep it like this that saves 20 bucks a month, the stay home thing has an upside.
 
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I think iTs really interesting this thread has fallen off. .

Difficult to address a worldwide concern when I don't see any of it anymore. I watch TV, but the news just repeats itself, same virus, different country, state, time, etc. I am thinking that a lot of folks have numbed out, others have found it to be so predictable that a person could study the graphs and charts and write the headlines we will be reading next week and the week after.

Do you want to hear my personal story about covid? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Hard to comment on global stuff without getting political.

News sources all seem to be the same, more or less. Varying levels of reliability and objective viewpoints. There is one particular source that has been proven wrong many times and I have chosen to not believe much from that source anymore.

Folks are hoarding dog food, what does that say?

When I do go out I see people driving like they KNOW there are no cops on the road but thank god there are.

Being hypervigilant makes me always aware of the jurisdiction I am in and the reputation of the first responders there, how far to an ER, where the nearest LZ could be set up etc. etc. (10 years of EMT work, victim of a few bad wrecks myself)

Doesn't anyone weigh the risks of a bad pass or running a red light against the possibility of being exposed to covid in an ER and admitted to a hospital that is overloaded and staffed with heroes that are possibly also carriers?

It used to be like driving with people that thought this was all just a video game, now it is like driving with people that are playing a game and they have more extra lives than anyone else.

I am old, scared, and have an underlying condition. they may be right.
 
My personal wish, here in the US, is that people would spend more time talking about saving PEOPLE, and less about saving "the economy".

My God, yes! I'm so afraid I'm going to lose my mom! She is 82, and I remember thinking when I was in my 30s, and she kept expecting to die in her 60s, that she would live to 82. Not that it means anything in reality, but my trauma brain says it means something. Our government is made up of many of the super rich, who don't like seeing their money go down the drain. I'm sure the equity in my house will go down, but I would rather have more people live than equity in my home.

A lot of folks don't know what is going to hit them.

You know, I've been saying this since Jan. They still don't know. Now we're going to be sent back to work around Easter? Setting a date will not help, the virus ignores dates as well as borders.

I can not get tested here. Not even if I’m in the ER for symptoms.

I think we live in the same state. I can't get tested, not that I've tried, under the same restrictions. So if you can't get tested unless you've been exposed to a known case, it will run rampant. A person in my town has it. Did I get exposed to this person? I don't know.

I think iTs really interesting this thread has fallen off.

I've had to limit my exposure to Covid 19 news and discussions. It makes me exhausted, then I can't sleep because I'm too anxious. I do love reading it though, seeing how people from different countries are faring, and knowing how the people I care about are safe.

Doesn't anyone weigh the risks of a bad pass or running a red light against the possibility of being exposed to covid in an ER

Yes, I think this should be discussed by the media more often. If you have to go to the hospital, it becomes an even worse situation. I need iron infusions but you won't see me anywhere near the hospital. No way!

Tara Brach has a course called Mindfulness for Anxiety

I love Tara Brach! I also enjoy listening to her voice. Thanks for the heads up!
 
I have exposure to someone who tested positive for covid-19. Actually several exposures to the same thing. I got the news at work. Reported it. Went home to two week quarantine. We were super short staffed before I left. I felt guilty and like I was having problems (lots of bad family history over sickness and blame). I talked to the person who is our acting manager. They are now going to close down the hospital to sterilize it. I feel like puking. I feel everything that is happening it work is my fault.

And then there's worry for myself. I've been exhausted the last two days. Way more than normal. Often a sign I am getting sick. I have asthma. My landlord (who I was exposed to) is healthy and he's super sick. I have the same sort of worries @Justmehere posted. If I got so sick I needed to be hospitalized (and there was space) what would happen to my animals. Several of them our special needs.
 
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