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Thank you. I'm just so confused and I'm in constant mental turmoil. I just wish I had answers and I don't know that I'm strong enough to deal with the silence I get from him. It's been 2 weeks now and he is so emotionless like I mean nothing. I dont hear a word from him when we would be in constant contact before. We don't live together. So I feel I'm losing any connection with him.
i was the same i still dont like being hugged 2 years down the line find some one you can talk to i you need some one to listen to you im so glad my girlfriend stood by me as i dont think id be here believe me your stronger than you think i wouldnt be here if it wasnt for my girl friend but going to his first step and they can help i was againt getting help at first i nearly lost my job because of my ptsd sytems i may have this for the rest of my life but it will not difine who i am so i really hope you find answers but remember your not alone
 
Thank you. I'm just so confused and I'm in constant mental turmoil. I just wish I had answers and I don't know that I'm strong enough to deal with the silence I get from him. It's been 2 weeks now and he is so emotionless like I mean nothing. I dont hear a word from him when we would be in constant contact before. We don't live together. So I feel I'm losing any connection with him.
Hi!

I know you last commented a couple weeks ago, and hope things are going well. I have PTSD, and have been single for most of my life because of it. I can only speak for myself, and am not suggesting that your partner has my behaviors, but I’m hoping that if I explain my behaviors it might provide some insight, or comfort. When you’re navigating your way through PTSD/mental health, sometimes you can’t understand or manage your own feelings. That makes it hard to deal with the feelings of others. Especially if their feelings involve you. Other people become too much to handle. I get defense, and mad when people express concern for me. It’s like being made of raw nerves, and every time someone tries to get close to me they’re touching those raw nerves, and it hurts so I pull back. It’s like if you have a painful bruise and someone pressed it by accident, you might instinctively yell “ow!” And get snippy with them, even though you know it was just an accident. I feel like “don’t say positive things to me, but don’t say negative things to me either!” When I’m in the thick of it, no one can do annything right, but THAT’S NOT THEIR FAULT, and it’s not in their control. It’s something going on within me, and it’s my responsibility to work it out. All they can do is let me know that they’re there for me, and give me space. It’s so tricky because we need our loved ones to be patient and forgiving of us, but we also have to hold ourselves accountable for the way we treat our loved ones. We can’t hurt people just because we’re hurt. When I’m in the thick of it, I just want everyone to get the hell anway from me, and stop loving me, and stop needing me, and stop even acknowledging that I exist. I just want to be left alone. PTSD is so personal and complicated. It’s hard to see through the haze it creates. It’s hard to connect. I really struggle with dissociation. Im struggling in my relationship right now because I work so much, and my business is so people oriented. It drains me, because it pulls me out of my head. I like being alone in my own head more than is healthy. I love my clients but I have to unwind by withdrawing back into myself. Now that I have a boyfriend I have less time to recover from interacting with clients, and less time to be inside my own head. On top of that I have someone else who’s trying to get inside my head, and get close to me and understand me. It feels suffocating sometimes, and I get snippy because I want him to leave me alone and I resent him for wanting to be near me even though he’s not doing anything wrong. That makes me feel guilty, and self loathing and so then I want to push him away even more because I feel like it isn’t fair to him. I also get mad when he tries to relate to me, or give me advice on things he isn’t qualified to give me advice on or doesn’t understand. Sometimes people try to help us, but unintentionally say something that hits a nerve. An example is that I’ve been struggling with dissociation lately, and because of it I keep losing my keys. I recently found my purse in my fridge. It’s very stressful and makes me extremely mad at myself. I just want my brain to be normal. I tried talking to him about it, because it’s having a huge impact on me, and he kept referring to it as me “forgetting things,” and telling me how he “forgets things,” all the time. He’s trying to help feel better by attempting to normalize it, but it’s not normal and dissociating isn’t the same as forgetting something. I have been in trauma therapy for about 3 yrs now so im able to identify these things and control how much I let them reach my boyfriend, and im able to ask my therapist for help before it becomes a serious problem. That said trauma therapy can feel HORRIBLE. It really drags out the things we don’t want to face because they hurt so bad. It’s an intimidating, and long process, and it’s common to feel devoid of hope. Even once you start to find relief, you can backslide. It sucks. Communication is extremely important. The person w PTSD needs to communicate to the best of their ability, but I think that’s a skill that needs to be learned and getting professional help is crucial in learning it.

Whether or not this is something you can move forward with, isn’t a reflection of how strong you are as a person. It’s his responsibility to get help. You can’t force him to. You can’t fully help someone who doesn’t want help. He’s lost right now, and he has to find his way out. All you can do is let him know you’re there for him. You are also important, and your well-being is important. You, and your feelings matter just as much as him, and his feelings. If this is too strenuous on you, it’s not healthy for either of you. It’s ok to put yourself first, and step back if that’s what you need to do. You can put yourself first, and still be there for him. He’s so lucky to have you. It’s such a big deal that you care so much that you found a forum, and reached out for help. You’re a very special person. You’re going above, and beyond. Everyone with PTSD would be lucky to have someone like you in their life. I hope you realize that. You should be proud of the depth of your love, compassion, and empathy.
 
Hi!

I know you last commented a couple weeks ago, and hope things are going well. I have PTSD, and have been single for most of my life because of it. I can only speak for myself, and am not suggesting that your partner has my behaviors, but I’m hoping that if I explain my behaviors it might provide some insight, or comfort. When you’re navigating your way through PTSD/mental health, sometimes you can’t understand or manage your own feelings. That makes it hard to deal with the feelings of others. Especially if their feelings involve you. Other people become too much to handle. I get defense, and mad when people express concern for me. It’s like being made of raw nerves, and every time someone tries to get close to me they’re touching those raw nerves, and it hurts so I pull back. It’s like if you have a painful bruise and someone pressed it by accident, you might instinctively yell “ow!” And get snippy with them, even though you know it was just an accident. I feel like “don’t say positive things to me, but don’t say negative things to me either!” When I’m in the thick of it, no one can do annything right, but THAT’S NOT THEIR FAULT, and it’s not in their control. It’s something going on within me, and it’s my responsibility to work it out. All they can do is let me know that they’re there for me, and give me space. It’s so tricky because we need our loved ones to be patient and forgiving of us, but we also have to hold ourselves accountable for the way we treat our loved ones. We can’t hurt people just because we’re hurt. When I’m in the thick of it, I just want everyone to get the hell anway from me, and stop loving me, and stop needing me, and stop even acknowledging that I exist. I just want to be left alone. PTSD is so personal and complicated. It’s hard to see through the haze it creates. It’s hard to connect. I really struggle with dissociation. Im struggling in my relationship right now because I work so much, and my business is so people oriented. It drains me, because it pulls me out of my head. I like being alone in my own head more than is healthy. I love my clients but I have to unwind by withdrawing back into myself. Now that I have a boyfriend I have less time to recover from interacting with clients, and less time to be inside my own head. On top of that I have someone else who’s trying to get inside my head, and get close to me and understand me. It feels suffocating sometimes, and I get snippy because I want him to leave me alone and I resent him for wanting to be near me even though he’s not doing anything wrong. That makes me feel guilty, and self loathing and so then I want to push him away even more because I feel like it isn’t fair to him. I also get mad when he tries to relate to me, or give me advice on things he isn’t qualified to give me advice on or doesn’t understand. Sometimes people try to help us, but unintentionally say something that hits a nerve. An example is that I’ve been struggling with dissociation lately, and because of it I keep losing my keys. I recently found my purse in my fridge. It’s very stressful and makes me extremely mad at myself. I just want my brain to be normal. I tried talking to him about it, because it’s having a huge impact on me, and he kept referring to it as me “forgetting things,” and telling me how he “forgets things,” all the time. He’s trying to help feel better by attempting to normalize it, but it’s not normal and dissociating isn’t the same as forgetting something. I have been in trauma therapy for about 3 yrs now so im able to identify these things and control how much I let them reach my boyfriend, and im able to ask my therapist for help before it becomes a serious problem. That said trauma therapy can feel HORRIBLE. It really drags out the things we don’t want to face because they hurt so bad. It’s an intimidating, and long process, and it’s common to feel devoid of hope. Even once you start to find relief, you can backslide. It sucks. Communication is extremely important. The person w PTSD needs to communicate to the best of their ability, but I think that’s a skill that needs to be learned and getting professional help is crucial in learning it.

Whether or not this is something you can move forward with, isn’t a reflection of how strong you are as a person. It’s his responsibility to get help. You can’t force him to. You can’t fully help someone who doesn’t want help. He’s lost right now, and he has to find his way out. All you can do is let him know you’re there for him. You are also important, and your well-being is important. You, and your feelings matter just as much as him, and his feelings. If this is too strenuous on you, it’s not healthy for either of you. It’s ok to put yourself first, and step back if that’s what you need to do. You can put yourself first, and still be there for him. He’s so lucky to have you. It’s such a big deal that you care so much that you found a forum, and reached out for help. You’re a very special person. You’re going above, and beyond. Everyone with PTSD would be lucky to have someone like you in their life. I hope you realize that. You should be proud of the depth of your love, compassion, and empathy.
Thank you so much. I'm trying so hard every second of every day. I can only pray that he sees the same things in me as you do. Thank you again for your so very kind words they do help me feel that i can continue doing whatever is necessary and make sure I'm checking in with myself too.
 
Hi! I can relate to, from my past , to have a serious tendency to push people and loved ones away. Most certainly if they suggested for me to get help and I was not ready, or quite ready for that, due to my own denial and also fear of what that help, or therapy would show and bring up in me.
Your boyfriend sure is lucky to have you in his life, someone who cares deeply about him.
Often it is too easy to procrastinate getting help, and , at least I see it as ” an easy way out” to just leave things as they are and see what happens. Or, your boyfriend is truley not ready to get help, just yet.
Hopefully he will be as therapy, or to be in a supportive group of other sufferers of PTSD can open our eyes to ourselves, our history/ trauma, and also reduce some of the toxic shame we often carry around. Also it can help with the anger and to see Life in a more positive way, and to distinguish where we end and others begin in a relationship/ our roles in action and so on. Stuff that might , or might not be blurred for us.

I would , as someone else wrote, encourage you to continue to be there for your friend, as you can, and at the same time put Yourself first in every interraction with him. Meaning, do not forget yourself and your own boundaries when it comes to helpimg him. Please keep frequent check- ins with yourself and do not forget how important You are.

I so appreciate the people in my life who have been, and are there for me in a supportive way. Sometimes in the past it was hard for me to realize how much they really meant. It can be easy to be shut off emotionaly, due to dissociation, or other factors like emotional numbness due to too much inner pain. They are all defense- mechanism that switches on beyond my control so to speak.

Often, in my own past, I would hate it when people around me suggested I need therapeuric help, ( due to my Huge fears) but it was like each suggestion to do so brought me a bit closer to taking that , for me, very big step,
In hindsight, I do appreciate the suggestions and support others gave me. Even if I didn’t at the time, due to my own defenses.

I hope that you are OK!
Best wishes!
 
- Nothing & Stay.
- Educate yourself but stay out of it unless sought out.
- Direct Confrontation &/or Negotiation
- Passive Aggressive Confrontation &/or Manipulation
- Aggressive Confrontation &/or Force
- Nothing & Leave.

I like the parallel with diabetes. Yes. 100%.

How about some variations on these? Like, separate for a while as a form of negotiation, saying you are doing it with the highest form of love, because you need him to get help and that you'll be back when he can prove he's taking measures.

PTSD can include "rage"-aholicism, addiction to rage. If it does in your partner's case, then know that living with rage is going to kill you as well as him. You take the lifesaver or airline safety advice: get yourself safe first, only then can you help others. Two of you drowning is worse than one of you drowning.

Take my word for it, Dad lived through front line war experience, raged at me for hours a week as a child then died of heart failure at 65. And this is not about me, it's about you. Make yourself safe.

Thank you. I'm just so confused and I'm in constant mental turmoil. I just wish I had answers and I don't know that I'm strong enough to deal with the silence I get from him. It's been 2 weeks now and he is so emotionless like I mean nothing. I dont hear a word from him when we would be in constant contact before. We don't live together. So I feel I'm losing any connection with him.

My guess is that he is expecting you to chase after him. My advice would be either don't, or at most follow the advice in my previous post above, putting your position into a letter (not text or email - way too immediate). That way, you leave the door open for him to walk through instead of trying to unlock it yourself, which is not the work for you to do.

In the meantime, re-focus by reconnecting with old friends and family and any other activities you've been putting off.
 
My guess is that he is expecting you to chase after him. My advice would be either don't, or at most follow the advice in my previous post above, putting your position into a letter (not text or email - way too immediate). That way, you leave the door open for him to walk through instead of trying to unlock it yourself, which is not the work for you to do.

In the meantime, re-focus by reconnecting with old friends and family and any other activities you've been putting off.

Thank you, I think I will do that. You're absolutely correct, it's his responsibility not mine. I have spent the last two weekends with my friends. Thank God for them! I'm very lucky to have such a great support system and equally happy that I've found this forum. I am confused if this is ptsd or him wanting me to end this relationship. But sometimes you never get the answers you're desperately searching for. No one can ever know what's going through someone else's mind.

Sorry, my last post wouldn't let me edit.
 
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Thank you, I think I will do that. You're absolutely correct, it's his responsibility not mine. I have spent the last two weekends with my friends. Thank God for them! I'm very lucky to have such a great support system and equally happy that I've found this forum. I am confused if this is ptsd or him wanting me to end this relationship. But sometimes you never get the answers you're desperately searching for. No one can ever know what's going through someone else's mind.

Sorry, my last post wouldn't let me edit.
I doubt that it's him wanting you to end it, and more that he just can't handle everything at the moment. But, like you say, you can't know what's in someone else's head. It's great that you have good friends. They will definitely help you through. Hang in there and take care of yourself.
 
Now begins week three. I still have his stuff here at my house and vice versa. I want so badly to just text him but I am not going to. The first week I asked him if we were ok? He said that he didn't know, we needed to talk but he was ready for bed and would text me tomorrow. I anxiously awaited for that text that never came. This all started on a Saturday night when i was planning to go to his house. I texted him around 530 to tell him I was leaving soon. He replied that he was in bed trying to take a nap and would let me know when he woke up. It had been a very bad day. I thought WTF that is weird? We had texted though out the day and everything seemed fine. The night before he "reluctantly" came to my house and I was happy to see him trying to get out of the funk he had been in. His trauma was brought up that night, as he mentioned it and I told him that I heard his ex wife had told his daughter. That upset him, but I didn't really think much of it. Then fast forward to Saturday, he talked to his daughter and the ex had not told him. So Saturday night he tells me that he's in bed, and then shortly after that he just wants to be alone. I don't have PTSD and I struggle with understanding any of this. So i replied that he really needed to get a handle on this. (keeping his first therapy appointments that the night prior he told me he missed/ cancelled). That set him off into a rage of nasty text messages to me about how selfish I am and every weekend I try to make him do things he doesn't want to do and he is f*ing sick of it and he does not want to be in a relationship with someone like that. We went back and forth that night, me telling him that I have stood by him through all of this and he just wants to end everything? Then after a couple hours and his head cooled off, I received a text good night, I'm sorry but I'm going to bed I will text you tomorrow.😘 Every night we would send good night and that kiss emoji. Sunday, nothing from him. At 2pm I texted "are you still asleep?" " No. Its been a very bad day." I asked what happened, "just a bad day.? Then all of this starts?? I ask him if he wants to end this, if he wants out? I just get "I just want to be alone." I said to him, alone for while or for good? He doesn't know. Now, silence.
 
Now begins week three. I still have his stuff here at my house and vice versa. I want so badly to just text him but I am not going to. The first week I asked him if we were ok? He said that he didn't know, we needed to talk but he was ready for bed and would text me tomorrow. I anxiously awaited for that text that never came. This all started on a Saturday night when i was planning to go to his house. I texted him around 530 to tell him I was leaving soon. He replied that he was in bed trying to take a nap and would let me know when he woke up. It had been a very bad day. I thought WTF that is weird? We had texted though out the day and everything seemed fine. The night before he "reluctantly" came to my house and I was happy to see him trying to get out of the funk he had been in. His trauma was brought up that night, as he mentioned it and I told him that I heard his ex wife had told his daughter. That upset him, but I didn't really think much of it. Then fast forward to Saturday, he talked to his daughter and the ex had not told him. So Saturday night he tells me that he's in bed, and then shortly after that he just wants to be alone. I don't have PTSD and I struggle with understanding any of this. So i replied that he really needed to get a handle on this. (keeping his first therapy appointments that the night prior he told me he missed/ cancelled). That set him off into a rage of nasty text messages to me about how selfish I am and every weekend I try to make him do things he doesn't want to do and he is f*ing sick of it and he does not want to be in a relationship with someone like that. We went back and forth that night, me telling him that I have stood by him through all of this and he just wants to end everything? Then after a couple hours and his head cooled off, I received a text good night, I'm sorry but I'm going to bed I will text you tomorrow.😘 Every night we would send good night and that kiss emoji. Sunday, nothing from him. At 2pm I texted "are you still asleep?" " No. Its been a very bad day." I asked what happened, "just a bad day.? Then all of this starts?? I ask him if he wants to end this, if he wants out? I just get "I just want to be alone." I said to him, alone for while or for good? He doesn't know. Now, silence.
As hard as it is, and believe me I know how excruciatingly difficult it is, I'd leave him in peace for as long as you can manage. He's said he wants space, so you either give it to him, or you walk away altogether- you don't have any other choice. It completely sucks, I get that. I haven’t been replied to for three weeks at the moment. This has happened on and off throughout the four years we've known each other. A few times, it's been several weeks. Once, early on, it was several months after a misunderstanding that got completely out of hand. As you will have learnt here though, the more you push, the more likely it is to add to his overwhelm. It took me a while to take that in and not take every isolation as a rejection of me.

When it happens to me though, I never quite know if it's the last time I'll hear from him. So far, he's always returned, but I feel the same stomach knots every time it happens. It's very sad because now the best way I can deal with it without going a little crazy myself is to emotionally cut off from him too. The trouble is it then takes us a long time to get back on track when he returns, usually just long enough for him to start to pull away again! And so it goes on. The closer we get, the more likely he is to push me away. It's an emotional roller coaster that I frequently tell myself to get off. As have all my friends by now, and family. Maybe one day I will wake up and finally know in my heart enough is enough.

Which is why I said a few messages ago to consider walking away now. If you stick around, there is likely to be more of this. Much more. He isn't suddenly going to be OK. Or maybe even OK enough to function as he was before. The stress of being in a relationship might always tip him over the edge from time to time. Or frequently. You will never know when it's going to happen because you're not in his head. He will probably never know. It's going to be a rollercoaster for you too in all liklihood.

But, right now, I get that you're sticking around. I made that choice too. Just be kind to yourself in the process, and find pleasure in a whole load of other stuff that doesn't include him. You do you. And one day, if you feel you've had enough, that's fine too. We're not put on this planet to be doormats or martyrs, but giving someone with PTSD space when they need it is an act of great kindness. He knows you're there for him. Breathe. Step back. Live. That's my advice for what it's worth.
 
Now I have a nagging feeling that he's cheating on me and that what all of this is about. He has been active on Facebook messenger but wants me to leave him alone. It's all coming together now.
 
Now I have a nagging feeling that he's cheating on me and that what all of this is about. He has been active on Facebook messenger but wants me to leave him alone. It's all coming together now.
Not necessarily. Check out other questions here on the subject of being active on social media but isolating from loved ones.
 
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