How are you coping with Epstein news? (not a debate thread)

[Muttly]

Really, the title says it all. I have to think, there's a lot of people being impacted by all the news and talk about the Epstein files. I figured it might be worth starting a thread so people who are struggling with it, can share and feel less alone. As that's the goal, this is not a place to debate the truth or politics of them. The focus should be more on hearing about sexual abuse, etc

 

[user27357]

anymore I ask myself-why are we being lead by our truth seeking noses to look over here? why not over there? Why the circus? I don't trust any of it, it all feels contrived to mislead.
It hurts to know there is no justice coming for these girls. But I accept it and feel the pain and move on. This crime frustrates me maybe a little more than others committed but maybe only because there are faces and voices of individuals. The sum total of frustration and anger would only be diminished slightly if justice is served. Epsteins death didn't get anyone the years of their lives back, what more could happen to make it right?
Yeah, I know, but it isn't going to happen over this single facet of the gem of crimes against humanity being perpetrated.

 

[Muttly]

I'm avoiding it as much as possible. At some point, I should probably look into that avoidance more, but nope. Not right now. And I'm irritated that it's so pervasive. It's like Christmas, even if you don't want to take part, you can't avoid it.

 

[Rose White]

Does anyone think there will be justice delivered for these girls?

I haven’t even gotten that far in my thinking. Mostly I’m thinking that them being able to say what happened to them in front of the world is healing for all of us regardless of whatever justice is delivered.

When that doctor in Ohio got punished for sexually assaulting all those athletes I was amazed and grateful that it sent a message that such behavior is not ok, because I was also sexually assaulted by a doctor when I went for a sports physical as a teen.

I think the thing here that sort of keeps poking me is how much the word pedophile is being used and applied to the president, who is the kind of metaphorical father figure of the country. Having him be president is like having an abusive dad and some people don’t see it (which mirrors my experience that I couldn’t see it). But since the country is split it’s like the splitting inside my mind.

But back to how that word is being used so much. It feels like an uprooting of a secret power structure. It’s interesting the Megyn Kelly thing where she’s saying that everyone is an idiot because *of course* men like 15yo’s and that’s not the same as pedophilia—so there’s that aspect of it that is unsettling.

But overall I think there’s something good about people saying out loud “I was a child and this wasn’t ok” because it gives people a model for doing that and saying things out loud in the right environment has an empowering and healing effect.

 

[user27357]

saying things out loud in the right environment has an empowering and healing effect

This. This is the hope for a better future because of this. My sign at the next rally will just be a picture of Epstein, out where all of us can see it in the right environment. That face will be the face of the moral disaster that sems to be happening in our time until, maybe, there will be a better face for it. maybe then there won't be a need for the sign, the rally, the anger. Saying things out loud keeps hope alive, even when it feels futile. This is how I cope.

 

[Movingforward10]

I'm not taking a positive view of it or seeing change.
Everyone already knows who went and was involved. And those people have eyierh gained more power or remained in power. So, whilst there is more talk about it, there actually isn't any consequence. So, what is the point?

People have just learnt that raping children and trafficking women and children is wrong. The impact people are learning is wrong.
But the doing of it?
Those men run countries.

So for me, it makes me very angry.
Because it just more of the same.
People know.
And people turn away and don't care
Maybe it triggers too much for me

If, it actually ended people's careers and they went to prison. Then I would be thinking something positive.

 

[PamelaS]

My son was the victim of a pedophile from birth to 3 1/2 years old. His birth father became a pedophile. I had no idea. The moment I discovered it he never saw his birth father again. These last few weeks have been very very hard on him. He has been severely depressed and suicidal. He has been actively suicidal and living with suicidal ideation for 24 years. He knew the truth about the Epstein files long ago, but all of this is throwing it all in his face. It is good for the truth to come out. But it is very, very hard for those who have been victimized by these evil people. Thank you for this thread. Maybe we all get through this and get to a better place.

My son was the victim of a pedophile from birth to 3 1/2 years old. His birth father became a pedophile. I had no idea. The moment I discovered it he never saw his birth father again. These last few weeks have been very very hard on him. He has been severely depressed and suicidal. He has been actively suicidal and living with suicidal ideation for 24 years. He knew the truth about the Epstein files long ago, but all of this is throwing it all in his face. It is good for the truth to come out. But it is very, very hard for those who have been victimized by these evil people. Thank you for this thread. Maybe we all get through this and get to a better place.

I forgot to add, since my son is on the autism spectrum, somewhat high functioning, he has very vivid memories of everything and cannot erase them. Thankfully, he received medication that stopped the night terrors that he had for 23 years. But he still has day terrors.
In addition to what his birth father did to him, he was sexually assaulted twice and facilities where he was seeking help and he was supposed to be safe. One day at a time. Thinking about all of you as we get through this.

I'm not taking a positive view of it or seeing change.
Everyone already knows who went and was involved. And those people have eyierh gained more power or remained in power. So, whilst there is more talk about it, there actually isn't any consequence. So, what is the point?

People have just learnt that raping children and trafficking women and children is wrong. The impact people are learning is wrong.
But the doing of it?
Those men run countries.

So for me, it makes me very angry.
Because it just more of the same.
People know.
And people turn away and don't care
Maybe it triggers too much for me

If, it actually ended people's careers and they went to prison. Then I would be thinking something positive.

I can feel exactly what you’re saying. There was a period in my life when the truth disappeared and lies became the truth all around me. My husband was a police officer, abusing me in secret and using his power and authority to stay safe. Because of my physical health, I was not in a position to go out on my own. They wouldn’t even have taken me in homeless shelters. And I had three children depending on me. Corruption is rampant. And the more it is shoved in your face the more difficult it is. However, it is what it is. It has been like this for a very, very long time. It’s not going to go away overnight. But every step that we take in revealing the truth, brings us one step closer. We may never see Justice. But we can experience healing and empowerment by participating in the fight against it. Thinking of you all as we get through this.

 

[Mach123]

Idk. I tuned out. I have up on my last news source this year. My wife lets her news feed run so she sees it and tells me occasionally. I personally am sort of being vocal about it now at least with these quack doctors. Do you know why I’m such a troublesome patient ? Do you know why I’m not like other people? I know they don’t care mostly but even my wife you know, I won’t let her put that you’re supposed to be normal stuff on me anymore. No, I’m not.

 

[littleoc]

I'm deeply worried the president has seen me being raped, through video. Worried the videos and pictures are more likely to get out. Not to make this about myself. I don't know why I'm worried about this, because in reality it doesn't change anything

So I guess I just mean it makes me sad on a deep level. Nothing is fair, but not like it ever was

Edit to add, sorry for being a downer about it. There's not really a way to lighten it, I suppose. Local government didn't care for a reason. If the victims were all men/cis men, it'd be different, wouldn't it?

 

[Movingforward10]

Edit to add, sorry for being a downer about it. There's not really a way to lighten it, I suppose.

You're not being a downer about it. It is a very down inducing issue. Which is putting it mildly.
The more that is released the more enraged I get because: no f*cking consequences.
And these women and children in the photos get no say if they want that photo out in the public.

Local government didn't care for a reason. If the victims were all men/cis men, it'd be different, wouldn't it?

I'm not convinced there would actually be a difference because of the men doing the abusing. It's about them retaining power whoever they abuse.

 

[Dark.Green.Feathers]

I tuned out quite a while ago because it’s so hard to find any source talking about it in a tone that feels appropriate (similar to the news on pdiddy). and also for my sake because I can only take so much sexual abuse news and am very prone to going down endless rabbitholes of different people who have gone through awful things by awful people. and it also tangles in to me trying to make sense of my own stuff which via this doesn't help, so I have to step away.

and I like to know the facts and details of things to try and get clearer understanding than the sensationalist stuff and to feel seen and to probably punish myself and that also just messes me up because I’m not good at regulating my intake once I start.

also feeling especially sensitive to anything involving kids at the moment, for some reason, more than normal.

 

[shimmerz]

In this world where money is considered above the preservation of the innocence of young children - where children are trafficked for their energy, sexuality, organs. This is not what Walt Disney tried to convince me of and luckily I did not fall for the propeganda that Disney put out. I was a ward of the Catholic Children's Aid in the early 60's for 2 years. I have seen the documentation and it is abhorrent. I went missing for 3 months. No record of where I was. I was put on pills to shut me the f*ck up as I slid into desperation between teh ages of 0-2 years old.

This isn't about the files. We all know what happened. We need to refuse to stand for this. This is why so many of us are on this site. So many more with childhood and sexual trauma without knowing about it. With no proper supports when we realize we were traumatized. Our politiciansand those in 'the club' are supporting each other. This will not end unless we sho know about the damage these assholes do refuse to shit up about it.

There is more in my mind about this but I will stop there.