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Thanks Anthony. You've proven to be a valuable resource on here and it's truly and greatly appreciated.
 
Kim, I just recently heard about this treatment and I am extremely interested in it. I submitted a request form on Lipov's website (Chicago Medical Innovations) yesterday. I'm curious if you set up an appointment and paid on your own or participated in a study he was doing? Did you have to wait a while and/or have a referral for the shot?

Also, did you formerly have problems besides hyperarousal that the injection helped rectify e.g. paranoid thoughts, intrusive thoughts, social anxiety, projection, anger, sadness, cognition problems etc.? Do you still attend therapy of any kind after getting the shot?
 
Hi IchBin. Thanks for your questions. I actually went to my local Pain Doctor in my city, as most pain clinic doctors perform SGB treatments all the time for pain diagnosis and management. I showed him the article I had found on the Web, and he, being an open-minded fellow, agreed to perform the block as designated by Dr, Lipov (right side at C6 vertabra). My pain doctor had never done the procedure for PTSD before, but due to other upper body pain issues, it was already not off-label completely for my treatment. The cool this about all this is that anyone (typically pain doc are anesthesiologists) trained in SBG administering can also help PTSD. My local doctor has also agreed to administer any booster SGB shots for my PTSD, should I ever need another. He was thrilled and excited by the results almost as much as I was. I tend to think the treatment may be permanent, however, based on the science I am finding.

Prior to the injection, I had Complex PTSD, beginning at infancy and with a dozen or so other incidents of abuse-driven trauma until the age of 22. I had suffered from social anxiety from not knowing if a trigger event would occur while with friends, long-term and often severe depression, frustration and obsessiveness/anxiety since the age of 10 (I am now 46). I was paranoid in the sense that the verbal abuses I had endured were self-exaggerative and easily believed to be true (I no longer verbally "abuse" myself as the painful memories fade more and more.)
As I may have mentioned prior, adrenaline is tied to memory, so the injection which snips down the adrenalin-producing neurons caused by trauma, also makes the trauma memories fade to a non-arousing "normal" memory status.

I am also now theorizing that many PTSD vistims may often obsess over stress-related activites due to the excess adrenaline and unconscious desire to "fix" the traumatic issues. If you are familiar with Cindy Sheehan, the American mother whose son died in Iraq, and who relentlessly pursues anti-war and anti-government causes, I feel she may be a good example of trauma-induced adrenaline looking for a "purpose". But I digress....

To answer your question, I was in talk therapy consistently from the age of 22 until this year, and also used EMDR, DNMS and other alternative cognitive therapies. I took all the meds and supplements for years. I did all the 'talk" work that could be done....over and over.
Since the shot, I have touched base with my regular therapist of the last 15 years and the head therapist at a regional PTSD clinic one time each, to tell them of how the injection has helped me. I am only 7 1/2 weeks post SGB, but have no urges to see a therapist at this time. I also stopped my meds a few weeks ago and feel great without them so far. I am convinced that PTSD has a biological component that only the injection could help.

I have tried to contact Dr. Lipov several times through email and snail mail but with no reply, so I have no experience with making an appointment with him. Had my local doc not agreed to do the injection, I would have sought Lipov for the treatment, however. I spoke with a local combat vet last week who is 7th on the wait list for a controlled trial by Lipov, and eagerly awaiting his turn...which is made available as funding for the study is available. I am not sure how a "paid" appointment works with his office, but would like to know if you can share his availability with me. Many have asked me about this and I am curious as to how quickly he can take patients now.

The only side-effect I have noticed is possibly more vivid and odd dreams, despite falling and staying asleep better.. Not nightmares, per say, but much stronger imagery. I am hoping it may be my brain processing over a great deal of information not previously "processable" with the PTSD interfering.
Kim
 
As a recipient of the SGB for PTSG 8 weeks ago, I can report that I am doing wonderfully. I am off all my meds already and have no pending therpist appointments (after 24 years of consistant sessions) at this time. I love life again and continue on my quest to inform and educate as many as I can on this amazing procedure.
The only side-effect that I notice is possibly more vivid dreams, although sleep is better overall. I also feel that the treatment saved my life, and my local pain doc has agreed to give me a booster shot should I ever need it (although I have a feeling based on what it does that it is a permanent fix).
As for the anesthesia, because the injection literally only takes one or two minutes, only "twilight" IV sedation is needed (where you are awake, just a little "high"), and a little Novocaine at the injection site. Honestly, I have had dental fillings that were more uncomfortable and involved.
 
Sure wish these new treatments were available but by and large they are not. Insurance won't pay and they cost thousands.
 
Hi okradlak -As I mentioned, a good local pain specialist who already routinely performs SGBs may perform the procedure for you if you have a discussion about it and bring Lipov's articles and info with you. You can call you local pain specialists and see who does SGB procedures in your area already. Most pain treatment docs do them all the time, just not for PTSD.
That is what I did and within 2 weeks of our meeting I had the procedure- just had to wait for the doc's next available opening. I can help with links to the best technical websites, which is how my doctor confirmed exactly how and where to place the block. Others out there are seeking physicians the same way with success.
As an off-label procedure (w/out insurance), the procedure at my surgical center plus doctor's fees is about $850. As per most other online pricing I have read, I see estimated costs of between $800 and $1000. It is not dirt cheap, but cheaper than years of potential meds and therapy, plus it is quick and hopefully with profound results. I am currently writing every foundation and politician I can, as well as CNN, etc., to get this treatment publicity and hopefully speed up the accessibility and lessen costs via insurance acceptance.
 
Just got off the phone with the secretary at the clinic in Chicago where they do these. I am scheduled for a consultation in the morning, and then the injection that same afternoon on the 6th of June! It costs $1000 - insurance won't cover it - but I am more than happy to shell this out. That's like maybe 7 psychiatrist appointments or 7 or 8 counseling appointments. I called the Chicago Medical Innovations phone number (847)760-9307 and talked to a guy who then transferred me to the front desk to set up an appointment. It was that fast, and they were really nice. They also said the 501 fundraiser Dr. Lipov started is 9 people long, and they schedule those patients as the money becomes available - not sure how long the wait would be. Also, they offer either sedated, in which case you need someone to come with to drive you home, or awake, where you can drive yourself - which one did you do? It's a flat rate fee, so either way it's the same price.
 
Hi okradlak -As I mentioned, a good local pain specialist who already routinely performs SGBs may perform the procedure for you if you have a discussion about it and bring Lipov's articles and info with you. You can call you local pain specialists and see who does SGB procedures in your area already. Most pain treatment docs do them all the time, just not for PTSD..

Can you please share where you had the treatment done? I have sought out pain specialists in my area (Jax, Florida) and have not had any luck. The doctors (if you can get in direct contact with them) are reluctant to do the SGB for PTSD. Probably because it is not FDA approved for that application yet. Just wondering if you happen to be in my regional area. Othwerwise I am looking to fly to Dr. Lipov's office. Thanks.
 
I am looking at the web site now. It looks a little scary. For those who had it, was there pain? Also did you lose any other memories or skills?? Considering that I actually looked into psychosurgery, this looks a lot less!LOL~
 
Hi folks! I managed to schedule a consult with a Pain Management doctor and will be meeting them shortly. If anyone has any links re: usage of SGB for PTSD that they feel are both specific and informative please share them with me so I can bring them along.

I will, of course, keep everyone on here updated as to how things progress. Hopefully I too will have a positive story to share with everyone on here shortly.
 
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