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Sufferer Vehicle Accident Possible Ptsd

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Crash

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Hi all,
I visited my GP about a month ago about my trouble sleeping and my fear while in a vehicle (driving or passenger), he spent a fair amount of time, asked many questions, and his conclusion is at very least mild PTSD. The waiting time to see a psychiatrist or therapist here is pretty long, so I'm still waiting and haven't gotten a solid diagnosis, but I've got to say that all I've read fits strongly. I want to get better, so badly, for myself and my husband, but with the waiting time I'm outta luck for professional help. Trying to work on it myself in the meantime.

As for the backstory....VERY long story as short as possible: two years ago I was a passenger in a pickup truck rollover on black ice while working. The driver was fine, according to the doctors and such I was fine too...."minor neck strain". I went back to work, expressed that I still hurt, and was nervous with driving. I wasn't given any slack for any of it and all of the doctors told me the pain was normal and would go away. Eventually I quit largely due to the pain and the fear and got a less physically active job. Several months later the neck pain got even worse and one day I woke up unable to turn my head! I could only look to the right. It took 6 months to get even 60% mobility back. During that time my driving fear was worse though I assumed it was because I could barely look out the windshield, never mind do a shoulder check. It didn't help that the only way to get to ANYTHING is by driving down the highway since we live out of town. I spent about 3 months not driving at all and 6 months not working (to make matters worse worker's comp refuses to believe that the neck problem was associated with the original accident). My neck problems have abated to a point (still have some chronic pain, muscle spasm and hypermobile vertebrae), my driving fear from the accident has gotten worse. My feelings about it all have leaked into the rest of my life too and, though my husband is too sweet to let on usually, I know its making me miserable to be around.

I know my overt "trauma" isn't quite so traumatizing as what I've seen that some of you have been through, and I keep thinking I should just "suck it up and get over it". I've tried, it hasn't worked, professional help will come if and when they decide to give me an appointment. I honestly don't think the truck accident caused the bulk of this...it was the aftermath that has lasted for so long that has made it worse. So here I am....trying to do what I can for myself and coming to those who will probably understand it better than my husband and likely better than most therapists would....
So yeah....sorry for the long post, but that's me, a little more verbose than necessary. Look forward to reading about and meeting you all.
 
Welcome Crash.

Well done on your first post, it is nice to meet you. My PTSD was also car crash related. Therapy helped me so much, it was hard but I stuck with it.

This forum has been a god send. Take your time looking around and reading the articles and information.

Wishing you peace
KP
 
Welcome to the forum, Crash. :)

It's very nice to met you. Like KP said, therapy is doing wonders for me too. I don't have PTSD from a car accident, but after I got PTSD I was in a very mild minor accident. The anxiety I felt while driving just got a lot worse.

There is lots of support here, and good people.

Take care of yourself.
 
Its interesting I had a car accident that I broke the windshield out with my head and recovered without any long term problems. Three years later I had what I thought was a less severe accident but ended up with PTSD from it and my body did the same thing. Stopped moving really over a period of time. Its so tough to work through and so painful. I don't think people realize the severity of PTSD from a car accident. My only figuring on it is that its the hypothymus giving a message to either flee, which may explain the muscle spasm and continual contractions, or a message to freeze and the body responds with no movement. I went to physical therapy for over two years and they determined I would not improve. But I have improved some its just taken a very long time and the improvements are very slow for me. Welcome! I hope you get some good tips here. Hey KP the nut, what therapy did you use that helped?

What I've noticed for me is that I can move about seven repetative movements and then it binds up. Has anyone had that experience? Any luck with a certain type of therapy?

An example for me I did the eliptical for 10 minutes then couldn't walk for 3 days from a swollen back. Excruciating pain. I've had MRI's and was told they are all fine.
 
Thanks for the warm greetings :)

KP, I'm wondering the same as TranquilStream....what form of therapy?
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy was highly recommended to me, but of course it meant driving back to town again later in the day. I don't know, it was a little too scary of a proposition for me. Reading up on it I've discovered I exercise a lot of the same type of thing by myself anyway, so the group class I was offered didn't thrill me on that front either.

TranquilStream, I has similar situations....clear MRI and Xray (except showing the fact that my head wasn't turned straight on). One neurologists guess was that I had a conversion disorder, but my GP, another neurologist and physiotherapist were both convinced its physical and soft tissue, so not showing up well on imaging. Basically wryneck, made possible and worse by the injury.Never have gotten a diagnosis. The physical problem overshadowed my other issues with driving and the extra stuff associated, so I'm finally on the cusp of getting professional help. OH, and Tranquilstream, for the physical stuff have you tried physiotherapy? I get acupuncture and massage along with prescribed exercises. Its the only thing that has helped physically!

The collateral damage to me has been pretty enormous. I've gained weight, gotten very physically weak, lost confidence. More nervous, irritable, less patient. Literally insult to injury is the driving problem. Before the accident I was half way through a rebuild to my (somewhat) classic car. Its done now, over $10 000 sunk into it and I'm scared to drive it, though just sitting in it and starting it up makes me grin so much, but once I get to the end of the driveway its pretty likely I'll be in panic mode on the highway.

Its great to see a friendly community of helpful people here, it does help to know I'm not alone in having problems like this.

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How great that you've rebuilt a classic car! I'm sure eventually you'll be up for driving it. I did have some releif from actupuncture and also yoga. But sometimes its so intense I can only handle a little bit before I am exausted. I have to plan it to be the only thing I do in a day if I do it and then plan ahead to not be able to do anything for a couple days after. But it does improve things, its just intense for me. They drs told me the same thing - muscle tissue damage and then mentioned they thought I had muscle memory loss. Which I think is true. I have found that in some cases I can't move my limbs at a certain point but if I turn my neck back to a place where I can move them then work inward slowly turning my head toward center again I am able to retrain my movements. Its very very intense work. My arms usually move in a splinting motion like a clock hand does "tick" up to a spot, stops, "tick" up to the next spot and so on.

I also became very weak, tough change for me as I used to trail guide, river raft, run and hike. It was a major life change. I now have someone delivery groceries to me because they are too heavy for me. I noticed my sense of how heavy things are seems altered. Things seem so much heavier. I lost weight rather than gained it. I also lost muscle mass. And couldn't be around groups of people for quite a while. I thought they'd bang into me and cause me pain. Its better now but its been 12 years since the accident. Thanks for sharing what you're experiencing - its been helpful to me to hear it and what's working for you.

Its interesting because if you looked at me - you'd never know it bothers me so much. I've learned to work around it fairly well by changing the way I do things and using leverage and asking people to help me. I just say I have a back injury and they usually will assist me. Instead of riding horses I visit a horse rescue and coax them to trust people again. So, I've learned to keep the things in my life that I love just in a different way. Eventually, I hope to be able to ride again, but so far I can't go more than ten minutes.

Happy New Year!
 
I am very proud of my car, though if I was more confident driving it I would be thrilled. I get intensely proud if I can get it up to 70 on the highway (speed limit 100km/h) without getting that choking panicking feeling.

I know exactly what you are talking about TranquilStream when it comes to the change from doing physical things like hiking. I used to be a field archaeologist. I got paid to get dropped off by helicopters on the top of mountains and go the rest of the way to inaccessible locations on foot, I would use ATVs, snowmobiles etc out in the bush in weather from bright sunny days of 40degrees C to snowstorms in -40. I quit my job doing that because of the driving involved in the job (and the pain the physical stuff caused me). Lets just say that driving on ice roads makes me nervous just to think of...I used to take it for granted. I'm trying to find ways to enjoy the outdoors again without being so strenuous about it lol. I miss the adrenaline rush too, but now instead of invigorating me adrenaline seems to make me shaky.

I guess I lucked out more than you though....I can manage to carry groceries (though there was about a month of the really bad times last year I couldn't). All I can ever say to anyone is that a good physiotherapist is the best thing anyone can ask if they have an injury....the second thing is being able to listen to your body to know when to do the exercises the physio suggests, the wrong exercises on the wrong day has set me back a ton, though I've been rebounding a tiny bit more each time. It just takes SO LONG. I'm only 2 years in, I can only imagine dealing for 12 years! I am pretty confident that with the help of my physio I'll keep getting better so long as I keep myself going too. The feelings I get from getting so scared of driving though really hits my self esteem...which gives the feeling of the exercise being useless. Its just a matter of trying to keep going physically even if the mental isn't going so well. I have to admit though, I lose that battle more often than I'd like to admit, and I think that may be slowing my recovery as well.
 
Welcome to the forum Crash. A car accident is a trauma. I believe you are down playing this traumatic experience because it's a way for your mind to block out the feelings (because to feel the feelings are painful and horrible.)
I suffered a horrific hand trauma on the job back in 93. Out of nowhere, I heard a horrible sound (all my fingers being instantly amputated at the knuckes). It scared the living hell out of me. The blood was a river. The profuse bleeding was relentless. It was fear I never want to experience again. I cried that day, yes, I cried. It took a long time to tell it that way. I down played it and changed the subject for years (and the feelings decided to break out of the attic and give me PTSD)
I am in recovery. I am human. I am healing.
 
Hey KP the nut, what therapy did you use that helped?

Thanks for the warm greetings :)
KP, I'm wondering the same as TranquilStream....what form of therapy?

I had EMDR (Eye Movement De-sensitisation and Re-processing). If you put EMDR into the search box, it will come up with a number of threads. Obviously it does not work for everyone, but for me and a number of others here, it has been amazing.

I am a different person to who I was. In fact I now don't see a therapist at all. I miss my therapist, he was wonderful. However he taught me the tools I need to help manage my symptoms and with those and the support I find here I am managing.

Crash, 18 months ago, I wouldn't drive, I hated going in a car even as a passenger. Now I am driving, with confidence and believe it or not I'm starting to enjoy driving again. To get to my T, I had to drive (35 mile round trip) and past the scene of my accident. That was hard, but in order to recover I had to do it.

Those trips were the only time I would drive. Gradually T would set me challenges, go for a short drive each week and then to build on that. I had been a volunteer driver for a local community car scheme. I went back to them and started doing short local journeys, 1 or 2 miles. It was a win win situation, I was helping others and helping myself at the same time. Over time I was increasing the distance.

My major goal was to drive the 300 mile round trip to visit my youngest daughter. Something I used to do. I did it in July last year. I took my time, made coffee stops on the way and did it. Wow, the feeling was, I was speechless. I stayed with my daughter for a couple of days, we shopped, went out for dinner and I even met a member of the forum for coffee. Then I did the return journey.

My therapist gave me my life back. It was one of the hardest things I have ever done, no blood but plenty of sweat and tears.

It sounds so easy reading back, but look at my past threads and it was anything but.

Wishing you peace
KP
 
Thanks everybody.
I think you are right Ron, I'm downplaying it to a degree.....partially (I think) because the neck problem has been so much of a focus over the last long while and has taken over my world and that has been the largest obvious fallout from the accident. The usual times that I come closest to feeling the fear and such is when I'm driving....so I don't allow myself to give into feeling it, partially because its horrible and partially because if I let it in I'll just cover my eyes and whimper.....not conducive to driving lol. I've got some questions about how I felt during and after the accident, but I'll probably start another thread on it, since it goes a little beyond introductions....

Wow KP, sounds like you've had quite the victory doing that trip! It does give me a lot of hope, especially since I am able to drive a bit. I looked up EDMR, very interesting and if I ever do get referred to a therapist I'll be asking about it!

I'm actually kind of proud of myself since I went into town today and I didn't have to. I could have cooked food with stuff we've already got, but instead I wanted to make my husband and I (who are both coming down with a wicked cold) a crock pot chicken stew. The roads had a slight damp sheen which always gets me going. I made it fine though, minimal stress 20-30mins each way. Not too much traffic so no bullies behind me to stress me out. Pretty good! I've had days like this before though. If I see a flake of snow tomorrow I'll be a basket case going to work on Monday. At least I've only called in scared once!
 
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