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I have trouble accessing my healthy anger, in certain situations. I used to explode in anger and I went out and got help for that. Now I deal with each situation seperately. I am an easy going person now and do not have many situations for healthy anger.

I wish you well with your situations. It is good to be able to express healthy anger and I do think it has to do with trust. You have to trust that the person will see you and hear you. Sometimes silent withdrawel is very apporpriate. I do not think it is stuffing anger because the hurt is there underneath the anger. Just my opinion.
 
Tealeaf - do you struggle with expressing anger? My T says i do not have internal permission to be angry and I have stuffed it down my whole life and allowed others to hurt me because of it.

What you mentioned above was basically me until I started working through my anger. I found that my depression lifted some and I didn't hate myself as much when I started to access my anger. I was also able to feel more connected to other people because I didn't blame myself for everything other people did to me, I felt like I had a voice that mattered. If you are angry at other people and can't express it, it ends up getting expressed at yourself or brewing internally, either way, it does damage to you. And if you can't get angry at other people, you take the responsibility for what is their fault which makes it very difficult to assert yourself and not get taken advantage of.

As abstract said, expressing anger can be a sign of trust with two people. I found that when I was able to get mad at my therapist and we were able to work through it, that it was a really positive step for me. We also talked about transference, redirection of repressed feelings from one person to another, in my situation it was anger at my mom being unleashed at my therapist after something she did triggered me. Her showing empathy towards me and being able to handle my anger helped heal me.
 
I totally and utterly agree with Tealeaf and my experiences are very similar. It has helped my SU stuff enormously.

I find diarising my feelings and anger helpful and have needed to actively look for it and identify it for me to start changing.
 
Oh my gosh tealeaf - that is exactly what I'm working through. One of the themes through my therapy was understanding that I was raised in a home where my feelings didn't matter. I was never allowed to be angry. My parents didn't have any trouble being angry, but I have no capacity for anger. It scares me. My therapist has been trying to make me angry off and on now for a while. I have never really fallen for it until yesterday. Normally I would want to call him and apologize for being angry with him, but this time I know it's part of the process and I'm not feeling at all guilty. I know i will go in next week as scheduled and he will be perfectly normal with me.

This is really helping me! Thank you so much for sharing. It always feels so much better when someone knows how you feel.
 
Oh my gosh tealeaf - that is exactly what I'm working through. One of the themes through my therapy was understanding that I was raised in a home where my feelings didn't matter. I was never allowed to be angry. My parents didn't have any trouble being angry, but I have no capacity for anger. It scares me.

That is how I grew up too! It takes time to reconnect with anger when you grow up in a house like that. I find what Abstract said was helpful in terms of actively looking for and identifying your feelings. It takes a lot of time and effort at first but the small successes build on each other and it get easier.

Abstract- What does SU stand for? The only thing I could think of was SI (suicidal ideation) as accessing my anger has helped me not have so many thoughts of harming myself because I don't automatically blame myself for everything.
 
Abstract- What does SU stand for?
Hi Tealeaf,
Sorry to confuse! I know it as SU for suicide and SI for self injury. I know SH is also used for self harm.

Absolutely! I think other things helped me a lot with SH/SI but this stuff helped me enormously with both depression and suicide. It took me absolute enormous amounts of work and years and years to get to where I am now. But it has absolutely been worth it.

I was so disconnected from myself before I did not even connect distress and flashbacks. :alien: At the point I did most of this work I did not think I had trauma in my life but was fighting a long term eating disorder and depression. I would appear to be very functional on the outside and then have periodic breakdowns but had significant depression even when others would not have realised it before.

I have a lot of missing memories and periods of time but generally from what I can tell (and have seen when I was older) is that whatever I felt was undermined. So I literally almost felt that I did not even have a right to smile unless it was directed. i also was not allowed likes and dislikes of my own. With my father it was aggressive. With my mother it appeared not to be but was manipulative and passive aggressive.

My models for anger are very bad. Father raging, aggressive and unpredictable. Mother apparently submissive bit actually aggressive. Any sign of slight questioning or assertiveness let alone anger put me at risk and in the firing line.

To me anger was dangerous in itself, awful and I put me in danger (on an instinctive level). I therefore literally never felt it. I was in my late 30's and had never lost my temper with anyone. And thought I never had been angry. Other than at myself of course. But I didn't see that as anger. I just saw it as me identifying my faults.

Resolving this was essential for recovery from my ED. Any loosing of touch of what my feelings were and why I felt them would result in both ed behaviours and increased depressive symptoms.

As I have been able to accept my own anger more I have been able to tolerate others anger more easily. It still triggers flashbacks but my general levels of tolerance have improved a lot. I would literally internally disintegrate before. For me it seems that looks like dead calm from the outside. Practice makes perfect. :p Not useful in getting T's to realise what is happening though.

I shall stop blabbering now.

Oh. One more thing. I find it is absolutely essential to be able to identify anger as a way of knowing when boundaries need to be defended and when assertiveness is required. I am able to keep myself safer since I found my anger.
 
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