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Sometimes I Hate Myself Because Of My Ethnicity

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Lady of Longbourn

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Something happened in class today and I was reminded of it, and already being vulnerable because anxiety I couldn't normally sweep it under the rug.

I have mentioned this in my diary and after three and half years of knowing my therapist we talked about this once. I couldn't go any further. It's a very hard topic for me. I would rather talk about my violent rapes then this.

But I have to face it. I can't keep silence I can't keep ignoring my angry and hatred of myself. It's not healthy. I must talk.

So I need to explain. I come from a minority of a small German-American community. It was one of the most traditional groups of German-Americans to come to the US. We are mostly Lutheran or Catholic but also some Mennonite. They mostly settled in the rural US and maintained their heritage. There are still a bit of it around though as time passes its getting less and less. But still loan words and German food is common. I would share more, such as its recent spotlight in the news but maybe later... It's not a big community so that might be to much to share on the internet.

The community has always been very peaceful and simple. But was a bit harshly treated during the World Wars becasue of it's heavy traditional culture , where it (in my mind), becasue of fear drew into it self and then tried its best to Americanize. It went from a simple strongly German community to afraid to speak German or anything related. German was no longer allowed in schools, government wouldn't allow it. I can't explain it but I think the damage to the community in terms of identity was strong. People had to totally change who they were.

Both my parents were from this background. Both proud and I was brought up knowing it. But I myself was treated badly in school. I didn't grow up in that community becasue my father was in the military and was not stationed there. I can't tell you all how many times I was called terrible names by students, teachers and adults because of my ethnicity. It hurt deeply as a child because I could not understand why. I didn't understand either that (as my therapist puts it) I am a minority.

I learned to never share. I grew up fearful people would find out. And I still am.

But then I grew up almost hating myself at times. Mostly angry and confused. And sometimes I thought that I most be evil.

Only twice have I talked about this out load. With my therapist, who called it traumatic because of treatment. I think he adds this into my PTSD maybe becasue it just added to everything else that was already ripping my childhood apart. He tried to understand and mostly he did I think but my inability to say this out loud hinders healing we might be able to do. I talked to my mother once, who confessed she sometimes feels the shame as well...

There...I said it! I had to be said before I cried and went into depressed or worse hatred of myself. I need to work on it, it's time...

I know I probably sound terrible but I simply don't talk about this. I learned hard to not share and keep my family, their heritage and my comfort in it to myself. I get very very protective of them becasue I am very loyal to my family and heritage.

I'm also on my phone, so hard to write...Need break now to regroup.

I would love thoughts and anything that might be helpful. I admit to being fearful of criticism.
 
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Putting it out on paper makes it real. I admire your courage to share your struggle with your heritage. I am sorry you went through such a hard time with your ethnicity. I don't see all German people as killers because of a leader and his followers did terrible things to people. Germans from my understanding have a strong work ethic and a heritage that is unique. I would embrace the positives from your heritage and not identify with the negative. All ethnicity and people in general have weak areas. It is what we do with the weak areas that make us great. You are also more than your ethnic heritage. Just as you are not what the trauma has created you to be. Growing up I was bullied because of my last night and in junior high two girls started adding homosexual teasing to me. It has taken years for me to get past the bullying and physical assaults that occurred to me. When I found a place I could safely explore those words and the effects it had on me I was able to grow and understand more of who I am. I have realized I am not the labels they put on me.
 
Hi @Ayesha

I can really understand what you mean: I'm also working through a very similar identity problem.

I've struggled for years trying to find information on it, but have had no luck. I've had memories as early as kindergarten with wanting to be anything but myself.

In middle school, I got the idea that learning Spanish would transform me. This has also been part of my long-term dissociation. I felt the same about learning to speak German and Russian...along with studying many others.

As a result: my accent in the U.S. is now mistaken for German or English, while in Germany and Austria I am mistaken for being Russian. :unsure: The very thing that I thought would help me magically transform and relate to people more, has actually caused people to be more confused with how to relate to me.

I have just started therapy and haven't even gotten to this subject yet, but I just wanted you to know that you are not alone.
 
First of all, anyone who criticizes someone because of the community they were born into is an idiot! Like you had a choice??????? Like a kid should be help responsible for something that an ancestor may or may not have done?

During WWII lots of stupid things were done in the US. They put people in camps because they were Japanese too. I'm from the Midwestern US and grew up in a small town.There were people whose families came from Germany, from Poland, and from Norway, mostly. The communities were close enough to "the old country" that their native languages were spoken and I think they still probably do some church services in those languages. I can remember hearing stories about German not being spoken during WWII and about discrimination against Germans-Americans. It was wrong. Plain and simple. Unfortunately, people are like that.

The real "problem" was with the people who picked on you, not you. It's understandable that you would feel hurt. You were a kid. What they did and said made no sense (still doesn't!) and it WAS hurtful. Now, as an adult, I hope you can come to understand that you have nothing to be ashamed of. The bigots who picked on you certainly do, but you sure don't.

How much do you know about the history of your ethnic group? Have you ever studied it? You might find that you actually have things you could be proud of.

Sorry this happened, but glad you found the courage to share it!
 
It's quite brave of you to post something so deeply personal and honest. I can't exactly relate, but shame and a sense of being 'different' come up a lot in regard to childhood traumas. Your situation has some added complications in that, but that's the ignorance of others- certainly not anything you did or didn't do. I'm sorry their idiotic nonsense hurt you.
 
Germany has come up with some of the greatest writers and thinkers the world has ever known.

Every country has homicidal maniacs. Unfortunately, one came up in a position of power in Germany at a time when he was not seen or perceived as such, but as the answer to a dying country's prayers. The Germans were screwed after the WWI treaty. I've read a lot about it and it's so understandable how it all happened. It could have happened anywhere if the circumstances were right, though people like to think they would be different.

But for you to have been called names, etc. is unconscionable. I don't know how those people lived with themselves.

I have read a lot of books by African Americans who were treated so despicably in the U.S. trying to understand how they survived in a society that systematically put them down. I also wanted to see what I could learn to help me since I grew up with a feeling of great shame, feeling inherently offensive due to treatment in my familial environment.

It's really an inside job. But I know what it is to feel "less than" or "not enough" or "bad". It is hard to change what was sort of hard wired in. It's possible though.
 
@Ayesha This may be a triggering, but the documentary 'Hitler's Children' really helped me realize some things about my own identity confusion, my distant relatives and my german friends' older relatives. Not sure if you have access, but it might still be on Netflix.

It was very interesting to see adult children/grandchildren (of Hitler/Goethe/etc) explain how they viewed their families' dynamics, how they felt about carrying their family name, how it made them view themselves, and how they have tried to distance themselves from it. It might be a little too-close-to-home for you, but it may also feel less alone to hear others speak about it. A few of them were living in the U.S. and just now being able to celebrate their origin again. Many spoke of how they avoided being identified as German for several years. One adult grandchild even confronted one of his fears by visiting a camp, while also speaking to students visiting from Israel. Very intense.

It definitely was very emotional to watch, but it helped me understand a lot more about how this affected the families.

*Just a warning: it was definitely hard to hear the word "amazing" during the tour of the camp, but I'm thinking it was most likely a language-barrier issue, as the common language in that moment was English and the stress/shock probably caused a loss for words.
 
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I edited the above post a bit becasue I am now on my computer. Edited some spelling and a bit of more information. Just FYI.

I also want to add this: I learned hard to not share and keep my family, their heritage and my comfort in it to myself. I get very very protective of them becasue I am very loyal to my family and heritage.
 
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I saw that film too, and I am not German. I wanted to see how other's felt during that reign. The America's did a lot of bad things out of fear, ignorance. Unfortunately, people taught their kids that. Hopefully they have grown and seen the error of their ways. My husband's heritage is German, though he is not as close to it as you are. We are in our forties, and his parents were about third generation. I do, at this time, live in a very Germanic area of our state.

I'm sorry you were bullied because of your heritage and community. I do not know why people are that way. All I can hope is that I didn't teach my children that bad behavior. I hope I didn't teach my children hate.
 
The real "problem" was with the people who picked on you, not you. It's understandable that you would feel hurt. You were a kid.

It's also happened as an adult.

How much do you know about the history of your ethnic group? Have you ever studied it?

I know a lot, there is a big heritage center in my home state. And I have studied it. My family actually has a book about our family that was given out to all family members.

as the answer to a dying country's prayers. The Germans were screwed after the WWI treaty

Yes, agreed.

It could have happened anywhere if the circumstances were right, though people like to think they would be different.

I often think that and wish to ask that of people. I want to ask them when they say they would have never done something like that but they simply don't know. They were not there and fear changes people. People will do horrible things out of fear; fear of being murdered themselves for example so instead they kill others to avoid it. History shows that over and over again and not just World War 2.

I really wasn't prepared to talk about the history of Germany though. Understandable given the topic...Just hard.


It's quite brave of you

I think you are very brave.

Thank you. I am often told I am brave. :D And I seem to start a lot of thought provoking topics. ;)
 
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