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The Impact Of Childhood Sexual Abuse On My Sexuality

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So...gender, sexuality, sex...

@Bedbug, you are brave to start the sharing on this stuff. I am grateful to have a place where I can express things about these topics that I am incapable of putting into words with a human being sitting in front of me. I mean, I have taught sex ed--I have no problem talking about these topics at an abstract level. But as soon as I even consider linking them to myself, personally, I get extremely anxious.

As usual, though, there's a lot I want to share. So, hang onto your socks because I might put up a lot of long posts on this thread. It's a big issue for me. For the remainder of this post I'll just share my story about gender. I don't know whether I was sexually abused as a young child, but I know I experienced an odd form of emotional abuse that targeted my sexuality (I don't really know what you'd call it).

For clarification, gender=how we feel, behave, and/or identify on a masculine-feminine continuum. Sex=our physical sex characteristics. Then it gets messy...Sexual preference=who we are attracted to (not just men or women...sometimes one can be attracted to masculine women, or feminine men). Sexuality=all of the above added to the needs for touch, intimacy, and physical pleasure, and embedded within our self-concept and body image and more. Whew.

I grew up averse to being a girl. My father was grossly sexist and demeaned my mother regularly. He had been emotionally abused by his mother and treated badly by his two significantly older sisters, so perhaps it is no wonder. His issues with my mother were far more complicated than that she was a woman, but to the child-me, the message I got was that women were dumb and worthless. My mother emotionally abused my father as well, but the abuse never linked his sex to anything negative. In fact, my mother loved and admired men, generally. She fully believed then, and continues to believe, that men are better than women.

My best friend until I was almost seven and we moved away was a boy. I spent most of my time with him and his older brother, rejecting girls in general unless we played as part of a big group, which we did regularly. I was aware that I was a girl, but I rejected it. There were TONS of kids in our little neighborhood (we roamed wild in a way that few young children do today--we were released from our houses at certain times and called back by ringing dinner bells. Our parents seemed pretty much oblivious to what we were doing unless we came home obviously bloody and battered, or if someone did damage to a house or car). It was liberating and wonderful, and I loved it, but a lot of nasty things happened too. Double-edged sword.

From the time I can remember, I wanted to play "boys' games" (football and baseball in particular), play with "boy's toys" (trains and trucks), etc. My father indulged this from early on, content to have a tomboy, perhaps. I really don't know why--Perhaps I was just the battle ground over which they fought, because they fought viciously over how I behaved and dressed. Fairly early on, my father just gave in and let my mother do what she liked with me.

When I was 4 or so, he taught me how to throw a football and bought me the trucks and trains I coveted. He also would buy me some of the "boys'" clothing I wanted. My mother would promptly take these away from me, saying they were for boys. I cannot begin to express the outrage and confusion this caused me. She was oblivious to my pain. Worse was that most of the time when she took my things away, she gave them to my best friend, Stephen. I remember, particularly, a red electric train that I loved. When she took that away, I hated her with all the passion a 3-year old can muster. And I almost hated Stephen too, I was so jealous. She would buy dolls for me. I hated dolls then, and I still do.

To add to all the emotional confusion, one of my mother's regular comments to me from the time I was very little was, "If you were a boy, it would be different." Usually this was said to me as a way of saying no to pretty much anything I wanted to do, and how I behaved and looked and spoke. I had to speak certain ways, stand certain ways, express my emotions in certain ways. I had to engage in certain activities (ballet being the most painful of them).

As I said earlier, I identified as a boy until I was 9 or so, at least in my own mind. Outwardly when I could by wearing certain clothes, tucking my braids up into a baseball cap. Nothing pleased me more than having someone mistake me for a boy. Through all those years, though, that part of me was actively and intentionally shamed by my mother. So even though I fought her at every turn, I felt there was something badly wrong with me. She regularly told me that nobody would love a girl who acted like a boy. Puberty was devastating. It was the last straw. It defeated me. Maybe I was just so very tired of fighting against my mother. I went to the other side.

By the time I hit high school, my libido had awakened, and I learned quickly that if one wanted a boyfriend, one had to behave in a certain way. This was, after all, what my mother had been training me for. How to act so that people would love you.

To be continued...
 
Gender...part 2.
I became a "girl" in high school, at least in the way I dressed. Not girly-girl, but definitely leaning toward the feminine. I stopped wearing baggy pants and shirts. I don't quite know how I did it because I also had a terrible body image (I haven't even talked about the impact of my mother on that one...) even though I was an athlete, small of stature but healthy weight. I got a job at 13 so I could buy my own clothes. It was a sort of gender compromise that I have maintained more or less until today. I attracted a variety of boyfriends from high school on. I usually had longish relationships--not just dating. Not only was having a boyfriend the only legitimate way to get to hang out with boys a lot (I have always felt much more comfortable with men). Having a boyfriend made me feel legitimate somehow in my ever-evolving identity. It was what I was supposed to do. The bonus was that I was attracted to boys. For the first time, I felt "normal" in my relations with other people. My mother and society dictated that normal girls were feminine, and were attracted to boys. (I don't believe this now, of course, but I didn't know as much then. My actual sexuality is more complicated than this...like @Bedbug, sometimes I think I am a gay man trapped in a woman's body).

Today, I vascillate between more masculine phases during which I wear "man-tailored" clothing, attempts to make myself more feminine (I wore a dress to an event the other day), and just plain androgynous clothing. I think I am most comfortable with the latter.

What has really screwed me up in my middle age--both emotionally and in terms of sexuality-- is that my husband has "come out" with his own gender differences. He has embraced his feminine self (only privately and with me) fully and likes to share it with me. I love him and respect him. On a cognitive level, I completely understand and celebrate his individuality. But on an emotional level, it deeply triggers me--the transference/counter-transference loop is intense. And it has made what was already a tenuous sexual relationship a sort of disaster.
 
I developed a strong sense that I didn't want to be female, like her. Females were disgusting, vile, inferior creatures. They were hideous, deceitful and stupid.
I didn't want to be a girl because girls got things done to them.

I was a tomboy and most people mistook me for a boy. I cut my hair short, and wore boys clothes
I had long blonde hair and was not allowed to cut it until I was 16.Once I was permitted I had boyish hairstyles. My clothing was entirely controlled by my parents until I left home.

I have real issues with trusting people, but more so with women.
Me too. I don't feel part of the 'group'

As an adult I socialised with men.
I still do. I will go to the pub with my husband and have been called an honorary 'bloke'. I prefer the company of men. Women don't understand me.

For a few years we had (what I think) was a normal sexual relationship but, as some of my repressed memories began to emerge, it became problematic
Our sex life was ok until I stopped denying the abuse. Since then it has become a huge struggle and is almost dead.

In all of this I see so many similarities as @Bedbug , but I am a female who was abused by a man. So my interpretation is that it is the result of the abuse ( and associated loss of trust etc) rather than anything to do with the gender of the abuser/abused.
 
Sex and SEX. Hard to write about.

Sex as in m/f. I'm a girl. Always hated being a girl, but caved in and eventually got used to it. What @Bedbug said:
I managed to ignore that what I was touching was female. If it was anything, it was more like mis-shapen male. I tried not to think about it much.

Until I started doing mindfulness stuff and bodywork this fall, I think I was pretty much separate from my body most of the time. Even though I was an athlete, I have always been considered "clumsy" and "accident prone" because I bump into walls and people, and trip a lot. I think it is because I am so often "not here." I have despised my body from the time I was around 4 years old. Then, it was because I wanted to be a boy. By around 8 years old, it was also because I felt ugly, fat, ungainly, weak, etc. I am considered short now, but I was full-grown by 6th grade, and surrounded by little skinny girls whose bodies I envied. It wasn't until a few years ago, when I somehow really started looking at people, that I realized most of us do not meet the standards set by the culture (or by my mother). It only helped me feel a little better. If I had been one of the participants in the Dove Real Beauty Sketches, I would have produced something that looked monstrous. BTW, if anyone reading this has body issues, google the youtube video. It is interesting.

Sex as in sex. I became pretty highly sexualized as a child. I don't know if something specific or ongoing happened to me; I have no real memory. A lot of weird fantasy stuff I remember engaging in. Figured out how to m-bate very young and did that a lot. Was punished and shamed for that regularly, as well as for drawing pictures of naked people when I was around 4 or so. I learned early that bodies are shameful and pleasure is shameful. That has really never gone away. I wish it would.

I am heterosexual and I am attracted to men. I also find I am attracted to masculine, lesbian women. I've had many male partners over the years ranging from my same age to 30 years older than I--almost none were "casual." I have never had a sexual relationship with a woman, nor am I interested, in spite of my "attraction." As self-conscious and uncomfortable as I am in sexual relationships with men, I find the idea of an actual sexual relationship with a woman appalling. I always ended up in really intense relationships. Some were short-lived, of a couple of months, others lasted years. None of them were particularly fulfilling. I ended all of the relationships. I think, fundamentally, when things got to a point where I felt like I might be starting to trust and depend upon the person, I ran away.

Sex was really sort of "payment" for the non-sexual safe touch and holding I've sought throughout my life. I've gone to great lengths in my life to get that. It played out in every relationship I've had. It never worked though, because when sex is overlaid, the touch and holding don't feel safe anymore.

@Meadowsweet 's comments resonated with me. I think I engaged in sexual relationships because it was the only way I knew to find the love I was looking for. Any pleasure I get comes more from my own fantasy than my partner. I find this really, really depressing.

I'm not sure what made me decide to stop running and marry my husband. I was and still am deeply attracted to his creative thinking and intellect and spirituality and willingness to go DEEP in conversation. This is what attracts me to people, mostly, whoever they are. My mother had poisoned the relationship I had been in prior to meeting my husband; if she had not done that, I most likely would have married that man. I've been with my husband for 24 years now. I want to have a better physical relationship than we do. Right now it pretty much stinks. It is getting in the way of our connecting on other levels, and that scares me.

It was shaky for many years anyway. Then he opened up with the gender stuff I mentioned and this freaked me out--completely triggered me on a really visceral level. I got pretty good at depersonalizing when it came to that. Then my PTSD symptoms hit, and so much weird s*&% has come up ever more intensely that I have pretty much just shut down sexually. He has stopped trying to engage me (which is good and bad at the same time). I don't really know what to do.

Ugh. Sometimes I just hate bodies and sex. I hate my physical needs and desires. Others' needs and desires make me want to run, especially when my inner child parts are making a lot of noise. It is all very, very hard.

I'd love to know if any of the endless blather I've written resonates with anybody.
 
Well...I've been coming and reading this thread, then going away. Then reading it again...then going away. It's a difficult one. Guess it has come time to respond. My background is emotional neglect and abuse throughout childhood. I have some fragments of sexual abuse and there is a lot that indicates that happened, but I have a lot of gaps in my memories so hard to say for certain. I struggle to see how my issues with sex and intimacy could have been caused by emotional neglect and abuse alone, but who knows.

I remember always wanting to be a boy. I had older brothers and wanted to be like them. I don't remember puberty much, I was usually dissociated or in my head, so I guess I didn't notice or something. I remember being somewhere with my dad and one of my brothers and I saw our reflections in a mirrored or shiny wall, and I saw these weird lumps on my chest, but my brother and my dad didn't have them. That was the first time I think I noticed that I had breasts. Would have been about 10-11 years old. I thought they were gross and disgusting. I ended up with quite large breasts, but weirdly enough when I have my personal fantasies I am usually more flat chested.

I have always related more to men than women. I don't trust women. That might be due to my mother who most definitely has a bias to boys and thinks girls are just naturally more manipulative etc...I have often wondered if I am a gay man in a women's body.

I've always dissociated during sex. I've never equated sex with love. I've gone through periods of being hypersexual, though I've not had sex with anyone for a number of years now. I have personal fantasies that I use to "get off" which have always been based on abusive scenarios. I often feel numb during sex, and not very aware of what is going on. For example, I didn't know that a partner was having anal sex with me until he mentioned it. (Sorry if that is too much information).

I hate being asked questions during sex, for instance if someone is asking if I like what they are doing, or if it is okay to do something. I get very agitated and confused if this happens. I almost feel angry at them for trying to involve me in what is happening, even though I am, for all intents and purposes, a willing partner. I prefer if they just do what they want. I have only rarely had an orgasm with a partner, it takes a lot of concentration and I have to stay in my head, using my personal fantasies. I usually feel like sex is somewhat of a performance, I relax once the other person is satisfied.

I have generally had casual sex, or occasionally it's been a relationship, though mostly a few months if that. The longest relationship I have had was 2 years, but I wanted to leave after a few months. I only stayed because he was emotionally abusive.

I often feel quite detached from myself when having sex. Like I'm watching it happen, and directing myself. I feel relaxed once it's done. Although it would seem like I don't get much enjoyment from sex, I seem to get pleasure afterwards, a contented feeling that it's done. I don't know really. A lot of the time, I initiated the sex or went looking for it. I have basically made myself unattractive as it was the most effective way to stop myself from having sex.

Ugh. I get the feeling I'm really going to get an internal backlash for saying all of this, but here goes nothing.
 
I hate being asked questions during sex, for instance if someone is asking if I like what they are doing, or if it is okay to do something. I get very agitated and confused if this happens. I almost feel angry at them for trying to involve me in what is happening, even though I am, for all intents and purposes, a willing partner.
I completely relate to this.
Thank you, @Mayday, for sharing this part of your story. I hope your internal backlash isn't too bad. I get those all the time. I'm finding though, that the more risks I take on this forum, the less it happens. I'm training for taking risks with people f2f.
 
Yes, thanks, @Mayday. I can also relate to what you posted. Very much so.

I really want to respond to a lot of what has been said on this thread, but I am having trouble doing so. Like, @Hope4Now said, I usually find that pushing myself out of my comfort zone by talking on here helps in the long run, but I'm not quite ready to take another step. Starting this thread was a massive one.
 
@Hope4Now / @Bedbug - actually I don't think it is wise for me to go there until I know the full picture of what my father and mother did to me and exactly what happened when I was raped at a later date. I feel I would start intellectualising again. The process of the emerging memories seems to slowly and not so slowly put ever more pieces into place in the jigsaw, and each time it brings other things up to the surface to be reassessed.

I realise now that so many things that happened to me in my adult relationships with men were themselves traumatic in their own right, but, on top of what I had done to me as a child (suppressed), I had no idea and insufficient capacity to judge them for what they were. I still don't think I am particularly good, disappointingly, at knowing what was normal and acceptable and what wasn't. I keep getting tripped up by it all. I think I need to do much more on letting it all out before I rush to judgment. (I'm not saying at all that that is what you are all doing; just that that is how it would be for me).

Since you are both married, and for considerable periods of time, and I have never been, I have less to go on. I barely understand, despite YEARS of cogitating on it all, obsessively, how I was responding, what I was projecting into the situations, how, if at all, I have been damaged, how and if I was attracting unavailable or 'damaged' men. I can see far more easily (so I think in my probable ignorance) what was being projected onto me and what my various boyfriends were contending with. I'm just too confused at the moment, I think.

But this issue, above all, is what I want sorted out, and the motivation for originally seeking help at the beginning of last year (though I now know I would have had to seek help whatever the motivation anyway). I don't want any more devastating break-ups; I only ever wanted a loving, mutually supporting relationship and to be settled and married. Probably too late now at my great age, but I'm going to give it my best shot without making it the be-and-end-all of my recovery (there are so many other things I have missed out on and I'm going do my best to have a shot at those too).
 
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