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On Disability, Feel Guilty

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After years of not being able to hold down jobs because of unendurable panic, paranoia, and triggers related to my PTSD, I have finally been accepted for Canada's version of disability, AISH (Assured Income for the Severely Handicapped.) It's an immense relief to not have to be forced once again to go back to work. And AISH is about $500 more than welfare so that will help out a bit.

But I feel so guilty and ashamed for not being able to work. Every time people ask me where I work I don't know what to say. I feel like an enormous wimp for not being able to just soldier through my panic and PTSD and work anyway. I feel so guilty being exempt from something all my friends have to do no matter how they feel.

In fact I feel so guilty it makes me panic.

I don't know how to feel good about myself or how to answer people when jobs comes into the conversation.

Thoughts?
 
I would put up a piece of paper somewhere and start "workshopping" words and phrases. Write them all down and cross out or change any that do not feel right.

I would not go into panic attacks or paranoia, not because it is shameful, it is just beyond the average guys ability to understand when they have had no education on it or experience with it.

I would reduce it down to one phrase to keep near somewhere you stand every day. The bathroom mirror, the loo. Read it and practise saying it until it becomes automatic.

Imagine yourself saying this when asked about work. Then find one more phrase that gives a slightly deeper outline of the problem, but not in-depth.

The first phrase you practise needs to focus on the physical facts and the fact that you have been advised by your doctors that work would be detrimental to your health.

You could start with some phrases like:-

-I have severe nerve damage from trauma (you could even leave out the 'from trauma")
-I have a condition that has caused memory loss and nerve damage, so I can't work.
-I have a condition that has caused memory loss and unusual reactions to stress, so I can't work.
-On my Specialist's advice I have had to take an early retirement.

If pushed for more information, you can have one more short sentence.

"Oh, How does it affect you?"

- I am unable to retain information and focus.
- It causes confusion and palpitations.
- My wellbeing can change from one day to the next and it impacts on ability to perform a job.

You do not owe anyone any more than this.

If they then ask what it is called. Just say "PTSD". If they are a close friend and seem genuinely interested and want to know more. You can say. " We can make another time and have a longer chat about it'. Otherwise you are quite entitled to say, "you'll understand if I don't feel like talking about it right now".

It has taken me five years to accept that I cannot work. I was also ashamed of it for the first four years and kept looking up employment websites and applying for interviews. I would cancel every time with a panic attack and I guess I had to experience that before I believed it.

It is important to get out of the house every day. Catch a train or a bus somewhere, have a coffee, then walk home. Make it a long enough walk to get up a sweat. Do it at least five days a week.

Then make another list of all the things you are interested in and pick the easiest one and do one thing towards doing it. It does not have to be formal or involve a commitment.

- join a men's shed if you are handy with timber
- runner's groups
- library
- Short fun courses at a Community College (spend the dollars it will be towards healing)
- buy a second hand pushbike
- scour the charity shops for bargains
- fix stuff where you live
- go to the supermarket every day and walk around the fruit and veggies and meats and sauces and dream up a dish to make with your favourite flavours.

Just some ideas.

Acceptance will take time. Try to not allow the thought of shame though it will take practise. If our skin was hit over and over daily until it bled and scarred up and got hit again. It would become scarred, deformed and unable to function well. Our nerves in our body,nervous system and brain have had that happen to them. Hits of adrenaline and other damaging hormones created by trauma and stress surging through our veins. Our adrenal glands don't know what the hell they are doing any more.

Other diseases that have similar impact on the body's different systems are multiple sclerosis, parkinsons disease etc etc.

I think we feel shame because our disease is not talked about in a physical sense enough. There is so much focus on emotional responses and symptoms. That will change in time. If you answer your friends in a way that suits you, along some of the ideas above, it will make a change in your community and circle of friends. If we all do it, it will become accepted.

Ten years ago, before PTSD I never told a soul I had depression and that has all changed.

See if you can find a punching bag and when that guilt comes, punch the bag and say words about how hard you have tried and the struggle. If it makes you cry, good, cry and punch and swear. The guilt will go away, I promise. Let it out.

Best wishes.
 
With practice you can become *very* good at flipping the conversation to other people. I am in the USA and on disability, and have gotten to a point where I can easily brush off any question and flip the conversation around to the other person without being conspicuous about it. Other people love to talk about themselves, so it can be done in such a way that does not draw attention to yourself and shifts the topic of discussion away from potentially embarrassing subjects.

As for feeling guilty for being on disability, well that's something that you'll have to work on over time. Having compassion for oneself can really help, as well as changing your frame of mind. I went from "I am using the system because I *should* be working" to "I have paid into disability and am using a service to help me get back on my feet".

PTSD is a LOT more than just feeling bad and not wanting to go to work.
 
Oh Yeah! I am in Ontario. Same gig. I have worked all of my life. I was brought up in a family where it was not even an issue to be a (sorry if I offend, this is other's wordings) *welfare case*. It is not the bar that I set for myself. AT ALL.

So at a Christmas party one time I was asked what I do for a living. Typical question that I have never asked anyone - even when healthy as I don't like to gauge someone on what they do. Anyways, had a friend with me and went itnto such a panic I can't tell you. I had no idea what to say. I went outside and had a full blown meltdown. Not pretty.

My first thought was to say 'I used to be......' but was trying to stop that line of thinking. So here is what it has come to over time. I know that I am working harder than most in their jobs. I am merciless with myself with my healing. Appointments, self improvement, endlessly, tirelessly, until I drop. That is something to be proud of. I work hard. Then I think about my sister, and my ex who are living off of other's inheritances. Now THAT is something to be ashamed of. Just waiting for someone to die to gain financially - all of their lives. OMG!

My answer originally was 'I am on sabbatical'. Then it turned to (and this has to do with my age), I am semi retired and pick and choose my jobs. Those that know me know I am a hard worker so there is no judgement. Now I am vague and let others know I am doing 'this and that' as a computer consultant (which is true).

So sorry. This posting is tangible to me.
 
I have been on disability ssdi since 2006......guilt fearful for running into people that will not understand.

Frenemies...............tried to get a job for years that would be conducive to PTSD I was hired by Autozone about a year ago however I could not mentally function with reference to the idea of being out in a public store..among other reasons(memory loss unusual reactions to stress,unable to retain information and focus basically Every thing you posted......

I just got put on lithium last week because my T says I am bipolar along with PTSD.......
 
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You KNOW that you did your absolute best and it didn't work. In fact you worked so hard at being able to work that you ended up on disability! That's what happens with ptsd.

You feel relief because you need it and being signed off as unfit is the only way you will find your way to a different 'fit' again.

Someone on here said they work mercilessly at their healing. I did that and I can't help thinking that working mercilessly at healing it simply an extension of working mercilessly at being able to work.

Solara said about compassion. You feel guilty because of the stigma and lack of understanding about the condition you have. I get that. I feel guilty, ashamed, avoidant and vulnerable about the way I contracted ptsd. So I don't mention ptsd as a way to avoid the history of trauma that caused it.

What I did use..my stock phrase was that 'I have a chronic adrenal condition'.

I recognise the insecurity and fear you have about being scrutinised, but like madmax said the people who ask because they are prying or want gossip are frenemies and you don't have to tell them squat. In fact, you could be getting immense pleasure from watching them get disappointed and thwarted.


It's not easy, I was with a friend once and we bumped into someone I really barely knew from years ago and she asked me how I was. She was just passing the time of day, she didn't want chapter and verse and I started trying to justify myself and give half baked account of my medical history. MY GUILT did that, she wasn't after any of that information. Afterward my friend who knows my health and reasons for it said, 'Your always trying to justify yourself'. The many levels that observation applied to were deep.

Last thing, the very reason you are on here, struggling with this testifies to the fact that YOU ARE NOT A WIMP or welfare case. You have integrity, you KNOW it.[DOUBLEPOST=1402865406,1402865159][/DOUBLEPOST]PTSD is REAL.....allow this break to be one in which you learn to give yourself a break.
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I was a homemaker and was ashamed to say I was until I changed. Put the screws to guilt. I applied and was denied. So I was a homemaker. I really feel for you and everyone had such good wisdom to share with you. I think you deserve to be on disability and I am so glad you have it. You deserve to be on it.

As for the questions, I have no answers for you and really hope you find your answers you seek from within. Good luck.
 
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