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the PANIC/GRIEF circuits are triggering separation anxiety
I fear this is very true, and thank you @Valentino. No, you are not over analysing or causing more emotional pain. Your post is correct. The separation anxiety is so bad right now that I can't even leave someone's house (that I am visiting) without suffering that anxiety in a very real way. I get crazy panic attacks even if I am leaving and coming back within a short space of time.

I think it was retriggered by my situation in CA. In hospital here, I had been assured I was going back to CA. Then getting a 'HAHAHAHAHA, YOU aren't coming back' was soul crushing. It was the laughing. He knew he was hanging me out to dry. He knew I would be totally helpless here. 3 months later he still refuses to send my winter coat to me. I didn't see this, my friends didn't see it. How do I end up with people like this????
A sense of separation starts around age 2,
Yes, and I had been moved 20 times by the time I was 2. I am certain that self is highly activated right now.
which would leave you vulnerable to 'getting the rug pulled from under you',
I call it 'being hit out of left field'. Then on the opposite end I am extremely triggered by houses (being inside). It is exhausting. Absolutely exhausting. It is no wonder I freeze up through this stuff.
I sense that there's really some core beliefs and wounds under this housing trigger.
Yes. Before, my reactions were more abstract but way more deadly. I am finding that this EP is no longer wandering outside looking for a place to hide, regardless of the elements. I am not certain what has changed. She is obviously (given the first post) angry beyond belief, frustrated, out of control.

Actually, I think maybe it is another EP kicking in. Interestingly, the way I escaped my adopted mother's place when I was 17 was by use of the car. I couldn't leave at 16 because she wouldn't let me get my license. The moment I had my own car I was out! Free! It is very possible that the combination of my housing and car issues are triggering the teenaged EP who was enraged at her situation. Come to think of it, my reactions to the car dying all the time are very similar to my reaction to my mother when I was 16 when she refused to let me get my license. I was incensed. I had planned my escape for years and it all hinged on a car.

The housing EP's reactions are usually one of being frozen. I think she plays that out by 'going where she is told', just like she did when the CAS used to come and get her. She doesn't believe that she can make stability, doesn't know how. Reading my documentation, whenever they used to move me I would cry inconsolably, eventually dropping myself into failure to thrive. My final move from my birth parents had me with jaundice, and huge digestive problems, close to rickets. I can't help but think that this physical problem of mine is closely bound to back then.

Interesting thought, but It is perhaps the car dying all of the time that is keeping me seated in the angry and frustrated EP rather than my 2 year old failure to thrive EP. This car issue may well be what is keeping me 'off the streets', so to speak. So then, if that is the case, my 17 year old EP is, in fact, keeping me alive through this. Interesting.
core beliefs and wounds under this housing trigger.
There is and unfortunately I am so unequipped to think my way through it. My largest and most self destructive belief is that there is no escape from it. Because there wasn't. I can't seem to think my way through that one.
Let us know how we can help you gain that calm and stability.
I so wish I knew the answer to this. I think, first and foremost, I need to figure out this pancreas thing. I should know in a couple of weeks what is up with that. Last night it was acting up like crazy. I still can't help but wonder what role this physical issue has in all of this. I thank you so much for your ever so kind words. I have to say that I trust all of the words and intentions that were brought out here in this post and in others that have had this content when I have melted down.

Interestingly enough, I was negating everything you said. Willing to ask is good? Nope. You (me, not you, Sun) are weak, spineless, idiotic, so on and so on and so on and the list goes on for each beautiful thing you said. My inner critic is screaming me out of trusting myself. 'You are an idiot to think you can figure this out. You are a moron for even trying....just wander outside, curl up and die'. I defaulted this this after my raging anger. Anyways, you guys know the drill of the inner critic. Thing is, my inner critic has been silent for so long that it becomes really loud and I notice the difference profoundly! Just so you all know, if you don't already, your inner critic is that obnoxious drunken boor at the party who will do everything, including stripping, to get other's attention. It truly is a lying, attention seeker, self destructive, devil. My inner critic tries to be the life of the party but so isn't. I learned that yesterday.

I used NLP to ground myself enough that the inner critic was silenced enough that I could move. NLP is good for me because it feels like a combination of CBT and body work (empowering stance). Body work is very important for me as I take on a set of body poses that are unique to the EP I am in at the time. My friend came over unexpectedly (so I couldn't tell him not to come), he knows me. He put a charger on my car, and asked me if I wanted to go get a Timmy's. Once I was away from the house, from the worries, he asked me if I would go with him to the Wednesday night meeting. He's smart. He asked if I would go 'for him'. I wouldn't say no to that and he knew it. Last night was enough of a distraction that all of this isn't quite so raw. He also took the bags and boxes that were in the car, he knows they are triggering for me.

There is nothing to forgive. Nothing at all.
Not even for just being me???? That thought comes to mind when I read this. *heavy sigh*. I have work to do on me today.
Thank you for giving that beautiful advice to our courageous friend.
I so agree, and so many thanks to each of you for helping me yesterday. You really helped me to ground, to be connected, to feel worthy. I went on and on with this post, not certain if I should, but thought it was worthwhile documenting the 'process' of coming back around, in case it helps someone along the way. If it doesn't, I am so sorry for the boring read. Love and hugs to each of you. I thank you so very much for all that you are.
I will stay in touch.
 
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Hmmmm, just thinking about this. I wonder if I can switch EP's and have my 17 year old deal with this one somehow. She found housing..... I will have to think about what characteristics she has (less fatalistic perhaps) that my infant EP doesn't have. Sorry, just tacking stuff on here.
 
@shimmerz Have to retract the offer to stay here. For both of us. I had to move. It had to be quiet and allow for a dog. Had broken foot and ankle when I moved. Friend drove me over and it seemed to suit. Found out after move in that a Crista camp is at the end of this little lake. Time I viewed the place twice before move in was 2-4PM campers quiet time. Had no idea that it was sesame techno on loud sound systems. The screams encouraged to chanting. It is quiet in the winter and I is a quiet place. How do I forget that spring and summer are coming? They start at 7AM and end at 10PM. you can hear the sound of the speaker systems from a mile away. City hall with do nothing about the noise pollution. Sound check on the speaker systems going on now. I need to move too. It is to overwhelming to hear children screaming (not loud shouting play) shrieking and bullying to megaphone dominance play games.
 
Oh @Changeling , i am so very sorry! it is true about the nice weather. A friend who has nice weather noise sensitivity spoke about this to me just a couple of days ago. How are you coping? What will you do?
 
@ shimmeriz It is so good to be here where others get it. To be asked real questions, and respect for the answers, or respect for the crying and the lostness. Song running through my head and not sure it is ok to post them but here it is anyway. I don't know where I can move to or be it is on all levels zero$ etc. Loved sailing and had a boat, also motorcycle travel (all long distance). Huge life changes from trauma. So Lyle Lovett:

And if I had a boat
I'd go out on the ocean
And if I had a pony
I'd ride him on my boat
And we could all together
Go out on the ocean
I said me upon my pony on my boat



If I were Roy Rogers
I'd sure enough be single
I couldn't bring myself to marrying old Dale
It'd just be me and Trigger
We'd go ridin' through them movies
Then we'd buy a boat and on the sea we'd sail



And if I had a boat
I'd go out on the ocean
And if I had a pony
I'd ride him on my boat
And we could all together
Go out on the ocean
I said me upon my pony on my boat



Now the mystery masked man was smart
He got himself a Tonto
'Cause Tonto did the dirty work for free
But Tonto he was smarter
And one day said kemo sabe
Kiss my ass I bought a boat
I'm going out to sea



And if I had a boat
I'd go out on the ocean
And if I had a pony
I'd ride him on my boat
And we could all together
Go out on the ocean
Me upon my pony on my boat



And if I were like lightning
I wouldn't need no sneakers
Well I'd come and go whenever I would please
And I'd scare 'em by the shade tree
And I'd scare 'em by the light pole
But I would not scare my pony on my boat out on the sea



And if I had a boat
I'd go out on the ocean
And if I had a pony
I'd ride him on my boat
And we could all together
Go out on the ocean
I said me upon my pony on my boat, I said me upon my pony on my boat



SONGWRITERS
LOVETT, LYLE PEARCE
 
I had been assured I was going back to CA. Then getting a 'HAHAHAHAHA, YOU aren't coming back' was soul crushing.
I can see how following this, especially with your earlier history, the offer and then abrupt withdrawal of a place to stay last week would have bowled you over. It sounds like it's triggering not just one thing but a whole line of things going way back.

It was the laughing.
It's the laughing that causes so much of the damage, isn't it? The cynicism, the discounting of the humanity of another person. I can relate to this.

How do I end up with people like this????
I don't know, but if you figure it out, please let us know, won't you? Then maybe the rest of us can avoid these situations too. The one thing I can say for sure is you didn't deserve to have that happen.

I think, first and foremost, I need to figure out this pancreas thing.
Okay. That's a plan. Not a whole plan, not a "what am I going to do with the rest of my life" plan, but it's something to get you through right now. It's a step away from complete chaos. Step 2 will become clearer in time.

Interestingly enough, I was negating everything you said. Willing to ask is good? Nope. You (me, not you, Sun) are weak, spineless, idiotic, so on and so on and so on and the list goes on for each beautiful thing you said.
Yeah, I thought this might inspire some resistance.
It's okay, you can argue with me, I can take it. :)

Not even for just being me???? That thought comes to mind when I read this.
I hate to break it to you, but if you want to be objectionable, you're going to have to work harder than this.
:hug::hug::hug:
Let us know how you're getting along, okay?
 
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@ sun seeker Hugs appreciated. How too get rid of the double post? I get pops ups and delays on here with empty pockets.
 
@Changeling I am so very sorry. Sun is right, you sounded so happy where you are. Perhaps now that I know you are in trouble I will be able to get it together and offer you a place. ;(

This random people/random noise thing really has the potential to throw us way off, doesn't it? I am guessing there is nowhere to get relief from the noise? It would be such a shame for you to have to leave there. Are you sure that you just aren't able to think around this? I mean no disrespect by that question and i hope you are able to take it in in the spirit it is being presented.
 
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