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We are all only human, sufferers and carers alike. Everybody gets in a funk at some time or another. We all as humans go through the same emotions, the same fears, the same idleness and stalling.

It is normal to get aggravated at "J" when he is being lazy or unproductive. I can totally relate. Don't beat yourself up for getting upset. Carers are not perfect either and sometimes our emotions get the best of us too. Just make sure to notice when J is making progress, and make sure to tell him you appreciate it.
 
HI Inthistogether and everyone

I just wanted to say thank you to you Inthistogther for being honest and open about how you are feeling and can image that (sadly) as carers we have all felt this...

I too feel so frustrated and want to scream and turn back time!

I feel angry that this is in our lives - we havent done anything to have to be dealing with this and had a nice normal life - I would do anything to go back a few years ago and the things I moaned about then!!

My hubby too is studying and this is part of his recovery too - thank god he has his study.

It sounds like we share a lot of the same PTSD symptoms and I feel its fine to be honest and share that you want things to be different too.

It was such an insight from everyone on this thread and lot to be learnt /reminded about.

Well done from a fellow carer who also feels frustrated, and angry and a whole host of other emotions that I wish I didnt

Much love

Sunshine xx
 
Muzikluvr. I can't thank you enough. Your post really helped me to understand my grandson, and I got up enough courage to have him read your post and asked him if thats what he was going thru ( I know that he has been diagnosed with PSTD). He said "Yes...pretty much", now this gives us a beginning point for me and to work with him and support him....after my hubby read the post he said it is what he is going thru too!!!!

WE have lost three children,,one of my grandsons Mom and I know now that he is suffering from PSTD and it is a nasty disease. They are always mentioning PSTD on the news and I didn't and I am sure many don't know how debilitating it can be for a person.

Thank you again for your post.
 
I'm trying, I really am but PTSD has turned me into another person, someone I don't even recognize anymore.
Good LORD! I do know that feeling of not knowing who I am anymore. The Medical Professionals said from day one. When my biological brother, beat me to unconsciousness and to literal death's door. I was left with very severe life threatening physical injuries, in that beating's aftermath. It has been nearly 3 years now. And I walk around with a snapped in two cervical neck at my brain stem and 2 snapped in two broken jawbones! No Surgeon can do any surgical repair, or get the bones reconnected or fixed. I suffered horrible Brain damage, to boot! He didn't get no jail, no penalty for his evil behavior! While I am in hock with the medical bills some 250 thousand dollars, and a lifetime of agonizing pain!
 
I think that I struggle most with the unpredictability that comes with his PTSD symptoms. I never know when he will be "normal" and be able to follow through, have a good day etc.

We don't know when we will, either.
Not a nice feeling to live with and lots of guilt letting others down.

.. it's easier to be mad at him for being "lazy ans selfish" instead of coming to terms with it. I suppose I am really terrified of him never being normal again.

Maybe he's neither lazy nor selfish, but ill.

He will not be the person he was before the trauma nor the ptsd, not necessarily worse but never the same.

I understand there is terrible pain, frustration, loss and responsibilty placed on you.
But the more support he has to attempt to recover, the quicker he will ultimately make progress.

Muzikluvr is right on the money, I would have liked her post 1000 times.
Amethist also.

Best wishes to you both.
 
Okay,
I read the first entry only.

Here's my insight. Not that it's any good. Maybe he just says things because he wants to live up to your expectations.

Not that he wants to for himself, but for you. He's living for you. So he says things to please you only.

Bet he knows he's not going to do what he says but he WANTS to, for you. Not for him. Just for you.

Probably doesn't make sense. But there it is. He wants to be 'more' for you. Can't do it. Drinks instead of thinking about how stupid, useless, pathetic he is.
 
Or more, he knows he's useless and pathetic and is tired of hearing it. So he says things to placate you with 0 intentions of living up to your expectations and drinks away his guilt of not being good enough.
 
Hi, I'm new, but a massive part of my joining is to try and get my Husband a bit of support (sorry, that's confusing, he is the carer, I'm the screw up)
I've been with my Husband 20 years (we were childhood sweethearts) and I know how stressful all of this is for him. I totally see your frustration.

There is Something that helped us really understand each other, I hope it helps, it's a bit boring, but bare with me!

Whenever I started to get fearful of a situation, for example that a phone call needed to be made to set up a savings account. I started asking him how EXACTLY the thought of making that phone call made him feel, nervous? Neutral?(usually his answer),scared. Then I described EXACTLY how it made me feel, complete terror, what if I screwed it up? We'd be bankrupt, they'd take the house (even though we rent) , car, all of my shoes, ultimately ending in the destruction of the world (on the plus side, ending world hunger, on the negative, that's a bit of an ultimate solution!) you get my drift?

You have to be really honest, but we find it helps us understand how each others brains work. You see, I know my brains the defective one (reading this post, I'm sure you agree!) but from my perspective my Husband has the weird world view. I find it very hard to understand that these things that literally terrify me, are something he barely notices doing. For a long time I'd explain how I felt about a given situation, but this only helped in part, it only really worked when my partner and I started to realise his perspective is equally alien to me.

When we bought our car we were able to figure out that it terrified me in every regard. Talking to the people about test drives (christ, I hate talking to people, I look awful, what if I screw it all up and they hate me?), paperwork (we'll never get the loan approved), just getting in a strange car (what if we crash and then have to pay for it?)
My husband then told me how the same situation bothered him. He started with, yes, paperwork was slightly nerve wracking, but he thought the loan would be fine, that the test drive, and chatting with sales people would be tiresome, but not stressful, and that ultimately he was excited as hell about getting a lovely new car! (oh yeah! And of course we wouldn't crash, he's a brilliant driver!)

The reason I use this example not only shows the contrast in our thinking, but also highlighted for me that I needed to go along (even though it was bloody terrifying), that I could take a bit of a back seat (excuse the pun) because my Husband was okay about handling most of it, but I did push myself a bit more than I would ideally be comfortable with to help with the paperwork, although my Husband took the pressure off me for the bits he didn't find bothersome, I was able to be supportive but not go completely out of my comfort zone.

I know this sounds obvious, but by doing this, instead of my feeling guilty all the time, when my hubby really was fine with doing a bit more (like taking the cat to the vet) I could step back, and this gives me more energy to help support him with the things he really does find difficult, like buying a car (but to be fair he is sickeningly well adjusted!)

I still get the mean reds (a lot!) and then, yes, it all falls to him, and that is probably the thing I struggle with the most. I often ask myself how my being scared somehow wins out over how much I love him, I put the fear first, that is one hell of a character flaw!

I really don't know how he puts up with it, but when I talked to him about it, he said
'imagine if you didn't have your problems, but I did, I know you'd do the same for me'.

I think my Husband is being lovely to me, but I do think what he said relates to you and your partner, do you think your partner would do the same for you? I think that's probably what helps a supporter through. If the shoe were on the other foot, would they do the same for you, maybe part of the reason he angers you is because you need that reassurance, I know your not the sufferer, but you mustn't neglect your needs, ultimately it will help both of you if you feel secure.

Good God! I sound like an agony Aunt, I am so, so sorry.

Hope it helps, hang in there, R.M.
 
Inthistogether, Thank you for starting this post. I read what you wrote and I could feel your frustration. I just posted on another thread where I pointed out something to my bf and he lost it with me. He never finishes what he starts and now I realize it is not him. I did not know this until hours of reading here.

For the sufferers who posted here, what can we say that will help? What do we not say? I always ask how his day was, is that wrong? he vents at me every day about his day. In our case it is his job that is the stressor and he has to deal with customers every day. He is great with them amazingly great can smooth ruffled feathers. Can he deal with one of the owners who likes to take control and tell him what to do. No!

I go to his house and clean up the kitchen and walk the dog and do laundry to help keep things calm there. He hates me doing this for him. Do I keep doing it? I have not been in a week, we are in need space mode.

Is it common for someone to think they can squeeze all the things on the list into the day? Or do they challenge themselves? Or just have no concept of what they are taking on? It is like a horrible cycle of not completing tasks and frustration and stress and then it spins out of control. Can the carer help break the cycle or does it have to be done by the sufferer?

Mine is not in therapy or on meds right now so I am standing on thin ice afraid of him bottoming out.

Thanks for letting me talk ang
 
I have ptsd and I don't have anyone to care for me.

Looking at the feelings and fears I have (and ptsd sufferers have different responses to life) an awful lot of caring actions could well make me worse than I am and prevent or disrupt healing.

I think the most useful thing a supporter can do is to sit down with the person who has ptsd and ask them what would help. And listen. If it doesn't seem to help, then you can have the conversation again.

A conversation is also a chance for the person trying to support their loved one to say when they feel that they can't support in the way the sufferer would want, and that's your chance to ask the sufferer to prioritise something that is an issue.
 
Ditto Meadowsweet. In fact me and my partner spend very little time together. I absorb myself in my work, and enjoy it immensely. My partner gets annoyed me with because I forget things a lot, also I tend to drink heavily at the weekends, but all in all apathy can sometimes be as bad as over caring for someone.

The danger is also a self fulfilling prophecy, if you tell someone they are lazy and stupid, in the end they may just become that.

I have seen it in many "normal healthy" relationships where women nag their husbands all the time, in the end you just don't listen anymore. Selective attention. I see this controlling behaviour a lot. It is terrible.

People change their minds all the time, nothing is worse than being made to feel like an inferior small child.
 
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