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Another New One... Should I Restart Therapy?

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I mean the tendency is to blame the victim.

If you don't have a lot of money or good insurance, it's hard to get talk therapy in the U.S. You get twenty minutes and talk medicine.

I did go through a long period like you described until I was about thirty. I had to learn how to cry again. I was so numb that I could bang into a table with my shin, get a big lump and a bruise, and not feel anything. People would ask, "Didn't that hurt?!" And I'd say, "I guess it must have, that's a pretty big lump." Didn't really feel anything from the neck down---not even hunger. Felt the migraines though.

Sometimes I think I want to be numb again, so I can work all the time. But I really don't. Numbness (or not identifying---we may not be talking about the same thing) does, however, protect us sometimes, until we are ready and have a safe place to identify with the pain. I did have feelings during the flashbacks and night terrors for thirteen years, but I'd often shake them off, forget about them, then get a migraine. I couldn't talk to anyone about it because it was classified, and half that time PTSD wasn't a diagnosis yet. I didn't have insurance, either.

Only a movie set off a series of flashbacks for me that lasted from December of 1990, got worse during Gulf War I, and then finally stopped in the winter of 1991. Haven't had any night terrors or flashbacks since then. Sometimes I'm afraid they'll come back. One movie was a last straw that sent me into such a state that I turned myself into a mental ward. Images and themes in movies can be very powerful. Don't think it's silly to be disturbed by them. Some themes should be avoided completely.

The anger problem does seem to go on, and there is plenty in the world to get angry about. But I have mostly felt grief lately, and "being like a machine out of order". The brain does not always work. It's natural to be frustrated with every-day-things when you're being haunted by ghastly images of exceptional things, and you're angry. I get overwhelmed processing the mail. It's frustrating, yes? It feels silly to be fighting with dishes or the laundry, but it does make sense.

If it's hard on your husband, maybe it's because he knows what you've suffered? And he loves you? Did you read the information on PTSD on this website? There is an excellent explanation of why we get stressed so often by little things. I'm having a hard time explaining that to my boyfriend, because I am so distant and withdrawn right now.

Take care.

The world won't stop so we can pull ourselves together. What an obstacle course.
 
Salome, I have been reading posts saying that it is inappropriate to respond to someone's post with your own stories. So, I am wondering if you feel like I am making your story about me, and not listening to you? I think of it as relating. Maybe I'm wrong. Does what I said make you feel like I am dumping my trauma onto you?
 
@tina

hi tina,

>I have been reading posts saying that it is inappropriate to respond to someone's post with your own stories.

hä? i've never heared such a thing, and i do not feel like this (unless i cannot see ANY connection to my story, but this never happened to me).

>So, I am wondering if you feel like I am making your story about me, and not listening to you?

NOOOO! it makes me a bit less lonely to see that other people have similar problems... :Hug_emoticon:

> Does what I said make you feel like I am dumping my trauma onto you?

NO!

over here it is difficult, too, to get the therapy payed by the insurance. my case was that bad that i did for most of my treatment, because i was classified "highly suicidal" (do you say it like this, i am not familiar with medical expressions in english at all...). i have to pay the therapy on my own if i start again.

what you say about pain was the same with me for a long time: i once put my hand on a toaster on purpose to see if i would feel it and DID NOT FEEL anything! later they explained to me that it was kind of neurotic reaction to my second trauma and that this would take time to normalize. today i would say that it is normal again more or less.

yesterday i was so sad - because i sometimes get angry with my daughter so quickly... i know that i am a really good mother and everything, and i know that kids CAN be annoying... and any other person would get annoyed sometimes without having ptsd (so my husband does ;) )... if she has a bad day - and i have a bad day, this is a very bad combination! luckily it is a very unfrequent combination...
it is not that i cannot control my anger... it's just that i feel so empty in the evening, like i've gone far beyond my limits...
a year ago i did not HAVE this anger - the only anger i had was anger against ME... so i guess my therapist would say that this is a huge progress not to take all on me...

i haven't read ALL the information here on this website, but i guess you mean an article by anthony, the one with the cup? i spoke about this to my husband - it was a good conversation, took us a few hours... he treats me with so much respect... he always tries to understand and help. i am really lucky to have him... :smile:

thank you for listening!!!!!!!!!

salome
 
Love listening to you, Salome. It's heartening to hear you and your husband had that conversation. That was the article I was thinking about. Now I need to have the same conversation with my boyfriend. I'm not angry, but withdrawn and distant.

Passed the toaster test? OUCH ANYWAY!!! That told you something, for sure.

It's good that you can see that conflict is normal. It's still hard to sort out, but at least we aren't so angry with ourselves---blaming everything on our pain---when other people can be irritating and maddening, too. Kids are resilient---if she knows you are suffering and understands not to take it personally it probably won't hurt her anymore than normal parent/child problems. A little "repair"---pleasant time together---can make it better. I've been a nanny for a couple of disturbed children and chilling out together---singing songs, playing a game, whatever---can do miracles.

The medical terms in English are arguable, and they change all the time. "Highly Suicidal" says it all. I don't know how they classify it here.

So is January 8 too far away now, or too close? Can't stand suspense myself.
 
hi tina,

my husband is a miracle to me... i sometimes think that he is more nuts than me as he has not left me in the past 3 years... :wink: he keeps telling me that he still loves me and that to him i do not seem to be a different person than before. to me it seemes like this: the old salome died, the new salome is a person i don't like. it is sometimes very hard to cope with that new person... but i guess all this is getting better: from time to time i do not have this old-and-new-feeling anymore. my husband keeps telling me that i consist of so many things, while to me it sometimes seems as if i only consist of flashbacks, anger, nightmares, insomnia... as if he was living with a person who is overstrained with every-day-things...

i do not think that my husband needs such information about cups and stuff... but i think he enjoys it very much when i tell him that I UNDERSTAND myself (instead of seeing all the anger with myself)... he doesn't seem to need any information - he takes me as i am - and has the ability to accept me as i am AND love me as i am... (even in times when i cannot accept/love me as i am) this is a great gift...

i had times when i could not involve my husband... guess that he perceived me as withdrawn at that time, too. i had nights when his presence was so threatening to me that i had to sleep in the guestroom... hard times...

i think my daughter is a bit "difficult" these days... my husband got very angry with her yesterday evening, too - you tell her thins 5 times and she ignores you... yelling around all day: "wana see my friend lena!" ...
and i was at a friends house, it was helpful to see that other ("normal") people have the same ("normal"? :wink:) problems with their kids and are stessed out with them just like me sometimes...
the good thing is: this is only a phase... and within a week everything will be as harmonious as usual... :Hug_emoticon:

>if she knows you are suffering and understands not to take it personally it probably won't hurt her anymore than normal parent/child problems.

hm... i am not sure if a 3-year-old can take things not personally... don't know...

>A little "repair"---pleasant time together---can make it better.

yes, this is true... we play a lot, paint pictures, go to the zoo about once a week, sing songs (i play the guitar) - we do not have a tv set, so we play a lot, read books, tell stories...

>So is January 8 too far away now, or too close?

i don't know... i guess i am quite busy right now: christmas, seeing relatives (my mum too :wall:), starting my first job since i have ptsd on dec 27th...

thank you for reading...

salome
 
We're all so much more than we think we are, Salome. I'm glad you have a loving, supportive husband. And a three year old! Of course you're frustrated. That's a three year old's job.

Enjoy the holidays.
 
had a very bad day...

:-(

yesterday we went to a traditional little festival to a mountain hut. after the festival in the hut i met a doctor linked to my trauma. i mean he did not do anything!! he is a very nice, sympathetic, reasonable person! his only fault is to chose the "wrong" profession of an gynaecologist or to be in the "wrong" place at that time...

the weird thing is that i passed by him without recognizing him, even though he turned towards me and wanted to speak to me. my husband who saw the szene from a distance, asked me what was wrong with me not to say hallo to him. :wall: --- i don't know how this could happen... i was so sorry, because it must seem like i do not want to speak to him...

so i went back, said hello to him, his wife and his daughter... when he asked: "how are you" i did not know what to say... i don't like having the choice between good manners or lying... i do not know how i managed to talk to him... i hardly could look him into the face... SO IMPOLITE!!!

i honestly believe that he is a good person, i have no idea why meeting him puts me in such a bad humour. :wall:

horrible.

i have so much to do until christmas.

tonight i have to attend a party.

the only thing i want to do is lie down in bed and die... it takes so little to make me want to die... it's a shame...
 
It's not the little things---it's the big things that don't leave much room for anything else. It's normal for anyone with severe PTSD to have inexplicable episodes like this. It may explain itself in time, but for right now, you feeling better than wanting to die is a lot more important than an awkward social situation, Salome!

You're being too hard on yourself. It IS a shame that things that are mundane, clumsy, and imperfect can put you over the edge---but the SHAME isn't YOU. The shame belongs to someone else, doesn't it? If you can direct your anger at the bad guy---even if that means making a paper image of the bad guy and putting all your anger there---ANYTHING!!!---turn it away from you and people who don't harm others grievously. The anger should be directed at people who hurt you, not at yourself for being hurt.

You're human and humane. You deserve to feel better than this. In time, you will. It may hurt a lot worse before that, but practice putting the anger where it belongs. You've been hurt enough. Don't hurt yourself.
 
your story about seeing the professional in a social situation reminded me of me taking my dog for a ride to town.
All afternoon I had been edgy for no reason, and when I returned home, the dog was relentless and excited to get out . I got so impatient I pushed him out the door when we parked.
I realized immediately what I had done and it just brought me to tears. How could I do this? He was not hurt, but it is just so sad to see this take over in an instant.
Thank you for listening...

ps...I vote for the therapy, if you are taking a poll :)
 
hello again,

@tina: why is it such a good feeling to hurt oneself???

@two_isles: luckily the dog didn't get hurt... :Hug_emoticon: you have got a dog? i've got one, too. what kind of dog is it? (by the way: what does the logo-dog of the forum mean? and the slogan: t-hell with the dog - beware of owner??)

i wish you a wonderful new year... all the best...
salome
 
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