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News Another Teen Suicide Due To Bullying...
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Orglethorp
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I completely agree, Medic. Situations like this should weigh on everyone's conscience, because it reflects a collective failure to help instill moral values in the children around us. Just because the kid isn't mine, doesn't mean that the fallout of his actions aren't a little bit my fault if I could have stopped it from happening.
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I totally agree with what has been discussed. There was no "Social Media" when I was at school, but there certainly was bullying. I was the subject of bullying by a group of girls relentlessly and was given permission to eat and stay in the library so the Head Librarian could make certain I was not interfered with.
My burning question is, are any or all these dregs of society going to be round up and prosecuted for their mindless acts of cruelty? They are certainly old enough to know right from wrong and nothing, nothing justifies what they did to Amanda.
I hope all the adults who knew Amanda can see what happened and do something about it.
I presume these media sites would say that their sites are too big now to moderate appropriately.
I am filled with dread and sadness that this beautiful young woman could find no other way out from her tormentors. I am so sad that they stripped her self worth into fragments and she finally did what they were taunting her to do. Shame on society, shame on those schools and teachers, shame on us adults for letting it get to this point. Shame on her tormentors.
blackemerald1
My burning question is, are any or all these dregs of society going to be round up and prosecuted for their mindless acts of cruelty? They are certainly old enough to know right from wrong and nothing, nothing justifies what they did to Amanda.
I hope all the adults who knew Amanda can see what happened and do something about it.
I presume these media sites would say that their sites are too big now to moderate appropriately.
I am filled with dread and sadness that this beautiful young woman could find no other way out from her tormentors. I am so sad that they stripped her self worth into fragments and she finally did what they were taunting her to do. Shame on society, shame on those schools and teachers, shame on us adults for letting it get to this point. Shame on her tormentors.
blackemerald1
There are so many factors in suicide. I don't think it is one thing, but multiple things. Stalking is probably one of the issues. Why wasn't anything done to this stalker?
With all the media regarding bullying, these kids are aware. They just don't seem to care. Unfortunately, some of their parents are just as bad. It's a crowd mentality. Maybe it gives them some sort of power. Maybe they are also abused. No matter what the reason, it is never acceptable.
As a parent, one of my fears is that my children would be the bully. So far that hasn't happened and I hope it is because I taught them differently. I definitely wouldn't tolerate it.
I did read of a parent who pretended she was a kid who liked this girl only to bully her. That is just crazy.
I hope they come up with a better way of dealing with this. It is so sad to see a life ended because of this factor.
With all the media regarding bullying, these kids are aware. They just don't seem to care. Unfortunately, some of their parents are just as bad. It's a crowd mentality. Maybe it gives them some sort of power. Maybe they are also abused. No matter what the reason, it is never acceptable.
As a parent, one of my fears is that my children would be the bully. So far that hasn't happened and I hope it is because I taught them differently. I definitely wouldn't tolerate it.
I did read of a parent who pretended she was a kid who liked this girl only to bully her. That is just crazy.
I hope they come up with a better way of dealing with this. It is so sad to see a life ended because of this factor.
Lori Drew and the Megan Meier case? Just guessing. That woman is sickening. I had to watch a drama presentation and it took all my strength not to go up to my friend who was playing her and yell at her.:oops: Lucky for me I remembered that the performance wasn't real.
I don't believe that this story should be lumped in with bullying as that word brings to mind teens against teens. If you haven't heard, articles are out about Anonymous involvement in revealing the suspect blackmailer, whom is believed to be a pedophile, and was accused of black mailing another teen for the same gratification. Here's the link to just one of the articles. http://thehackernews.com/2012/10/amanda-todd-blackmailer-kody-maxson.html#_ In my opinion these people should absolutely have restrictions on such things like internet usage, as it grants them free reign to potentially hurt people.
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I agree that the issue of the cyberstalker isn't really a "teen bullying" issue, but the fact remains that what could have been simply (though still unfortunately) a problem with an unknown adult harassing this girl from afar, it became an issue of mass-bullying by her peers.
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The problem is, IMHO that she got bullied to the point where obviously she saw no way out but to die. If a parent or a pedophile was 'grooming' her, he or she, would not have been bullying her, rather one would expect grooming her by sympathy and all that stuff so she was tricked into thinking she had a friend on her side.
I also think that you cannot put an age group on bullying, it happened to my son when he was five, a group of kids bullied him relentlessly by following him everywhere in the play ground, scratched his Cornea with a tree stick. Bullied and teased him when he went to the toilets. Gouged a wound down his back, ripping his shirt off him as they did...and it got to the stage where I threatened the school principal that if my son came home with anymore injuries I would sue. Needless to say, even at five, children can be so cunning and cruel that it went on and so I took him out of school. For the last two months of the year I taught him at home.
We then changed school where their policy on bullying was strict, robust and dealt with in the manner appropriate to the behaviour. He never got bullied there. I was a single parent and after the first school, I was vigilant to any problems but the school was fantastic.
When he was in his first year of secondary school he again got bullied. I was shocked that the House Master did nothing. It took me a while but I finally got hold of the right people at the school and the bullying stopped. The rest of his time at school was fantastic and he made some wonderful friends. Parents must be their children's advocate, protector...whatever you want to call it.
I am not blaming Amanda's parents but even several thousand miles away and only over the phone, I could tell if my son was happy, sad, anxious and all the emotional things that start happening in teenage years. I had some terrible calls from him at times but knew he had to stand up and face the problem in some instances. Other times straight after finishing my call with my son, I was on the phone to someone at the school who could stand in and assess the problem.
Bullying happens in the work-place, it happens to some people more than others through no fault of theirs. But somehow, Amanda did not get the respect and attention she needed so badly and at the right times. Or, for the right reasons. At least that seems to be, as an observer. And, what about the parents of the teenagers who were the bullies, what the hell were they doing?
I don't know what I would have done if my son had continued to be bullied, but I would have been kicking down doors for answers. Parents and teachers need to work together to pull up bullying and it never makes you popular believe me, but how much is a young person's life worth?
blackemerald1
I also think that you cannot put an age group on bullying, it happened to my son when he was five, a group of kids bullied him relentlessly by following him everywhere in the play ground, scratched his Cornea with a tree stick. Bullied and teased him when he went to the toilets. Gouged a wound down his back, ripping his shirt off him as they did...and it got to the stage where I threatened the school principal that if my son came home with anymore injuries I would sue. Needless to say, even at five, children can be so cunning and cruel that it went on and so I took him out of school. For the last two months of the year I taught him at home.
We then changed school where their policy on bullying was strict, robust and dealt with in the manner appropriate to the behaviour. He never got bullied there. I was a single parent and after the first school, I was vigilant to any problems but the school was fantastic.
When he was in his first year of secondary school he again got bullied. I was shocked that the House Master did nothing. It took me a while but I finally got hold of the right people at the school and the bullying stopped. The rest of his time at school was fantastic and he made some wonderful friends. Parents must be their children's advocate, protector...whatever you want to call it.
I am not blaming Amanda's parents but even several thousand miles away and only over the phone, I could tell if my son was happy, sad, anxious and all the emotional things that start happening in teenage years. I had some terrible calls from him at times but knew he had to stand up and face the problem in some instances. Other times straight after finishing my call with my son, I was on the phone to someone at the school who could stand in and assess the problem.
Bullying happens in the work-place, it happens to some people more than others through no fault of theirs. But somehow, Amanda did not get the respect and attention she needed so badly and at the right times. Or, for the right reasons. At least that seems to be, as an observer. And, what about the parents of the teenagers who were the bullies, what the hell were they doing?
I don't know what I would have done if my son had continued to be bullied, but I would have been kicking down doors for answers. Parents and teachers need to work together to pull up bullying and it never makes you popular believe me, but how much is a young person's life worth?
blackemerald1
Bullying can happen at any age, but I read that it is much harder for teenagers, as their brains ability to emotionally and mentally deal with bullying is not fully developed. So if someone tells them e.g. they are 'a worthless piece of crap who doesn't deserve to live', they are more likely to have suicidal thoughts than an adult. Adults are more mentally capable of dealing with bullying. So this adds to the suicide statistics for teen suicide for bullying, which is much higher than for adults for bullying issues.
And with cyber bullying and on social networks increasing etc, it's making the situation continually worsen for children and teenagers.
It doesn't help when parents let their 10 year olds have a facebook and twitter accounts. That makes me really mad :mad:
Teen bullying and suicide is a terrible tragedy and I agree that parents and teachers need to pro-actively work together on this.
And with cyber bullying and on social networks increasing etc, it's making the situation continually worsen for children and teenagers.
It doesn't help when parents let their 10 year olds have a facebook and twitter accounts. That makes me really mad :mad:
Teen bullying and suicide is a terrible tragedy and I agree that parents and teachers need to pro-actively work together on this.
So sad, may she rest in peace.
I think the bullying goes far beyond the people who wrote the venom, look at how everyone else treated her! How sad is it when society gangs up on a girl because of a prank the year before when there is topless pictures and nutidy in the media all the time. The views of the people above including the venomous trolls caused this.
There must be a change to shame the bullies into understanding what they have done, the victim needs support not a linch mob whatever she had done.
I wonder if any lessons come out of this sad death?
Saffy
I think the bullying goes far beyond the people who wrote the venom, look at how everyone else treated her! How sad is it when society gangs up on a girl because of a prank the year before when there is topless pictures and nutidy in the media all the time. The views of the people above including the venomous trolls caused this.
There must be a change to shame the bullies into understanding what they have done, the victim needs support not a linch mob whatever she had done.
I wonder if any lessons come out of this sad death?
Saffy
My oldest went through some bullying by a supposed friend. Then, in some sort of group mentality, he ended up fighting with his best friend. I think because he was egged on and wanted to fit in. We dealt with all of it. He had to make up with his friend and there was never another incidence of that behavior.
His counselor in Middle school told me that boys can be worse then girls in their gossiping and being mean to each other. She felt they got better in High school.
My first son is very withdrawn and a very sensitive type. He tends to absorb everything. My second son is not like that. He is very outgoing. He was being picked on by some kid in school. I guess this kid would hit him whenever he passed by. My son asked him not to do it, but the kid didn't listen. So my son drew up a petition and had witnesses to it sign it. He then gave it to the principal. The principal asked why he did that and he told her so that he had proof. She did talk to the other kid but my son was disappointed that the kid wasn't suspended like the manual said he would be. By the way I didn't know about any of this until after it happened.
Whenever I have heard my kids make fun of another kid I stop them and try to make them understand how this is not fair to the other kid and not a good thing to do. That they need to stick up for the underdog. So far so good. Not that they don't need reminders every now and again.
Parent's that join in on the bullying or accept their child bullying make me angry. Those are the worst.
His counselor in Middle school told me that boys can be worse then girls in their gossiping and being mean to each other. She felt they got better in High school.
My first son is very withdrawn and a very sensitive type. He tends to absorb everything. My second son is not like that. He is very outgoing. He was being picked on by some kid in school. I guess this kid would hit him whenever he passed by. My son asked him not to do it, but the kid didn't listen. So my son drew up a petition and had witnesses to it sign it. He then gave it to the principal. The principal asked why he did that and he told her so that he had proof. She did talk to the other kid but my son was disappointed that the kid wasn't suspended like the manual said he would be. By the way I didn't know about any of this until after it happened.
Whenever I have heard my kids make fun of another kid I stop them and try to make them understand how this is not fair to the other kid and not a good thing to do. That they need to stick up for the underdog. So far so good. Not that they don't need reminders every now and again.
Parent's that join in on the bullying or accept their child bullying make me angry. Those are the worst.
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