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Anybody Live With A Chronic Liar?

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mamachick

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I just wonder if there are others out there that live with a chronic or pathological liar and their life and how they handle it. I serperated from my husband 10 yrs ago and we are trying to re-unite. We go to marraige counseling. I know everyone has different perceptions of the same event and are not lying. I can accept that easily. I didnt hear that, or see that part, or interpreted it differently.

My husband has never aplogized to me for anything. I have more respect for my first husband who beat me, then cried and apologized and did something nice in an attempt to fix it.

My current husband and I had an altercation a few weeks ago. After and arguement, I told him to leave and he went downstairs. I went down to the landing with a cigargette in my hand that I was smoking. He said he was going back up. I said he wasnt. He started pushing me. We were in each others faces. He said "oh, you like being beat up by men dont you, you like it huh, well lets go upstairs to the bedroom and I will show you how its dont right" These words ring over and over in my head. The he was shoving me up the steps til I fell backwards and sled down hitting my back and head. This all happened in a minute or less. Somewhere I burned him with my cigarette. I cant say I remember doing it, but he had a mark and I agree that I did.

Now his story is that I wouldnt let him past and I was swinging and kicking so he had to grab me. He move me backwards and I fell and rolled down the steps. He denies any words about liking to be beat.

Now once I got up off the steps, I was furious, It was a flashback and to boot, I was on prednisone which made me manic, but maybe mean too. I did not have audio hallucinations thought. He will absolutely not admit it. This drives me crazy because he taught our grown daughters to lie til your grave. So I had an idea. For him to take a polygraph test. If I am hearing things,, which I do not believe, I want to know. If he said these things, I want him own them.

After years and years about lying about trivial things, this is one of the biggestm but I dont know how to proceed with counseling when he makes me out to be the monster, even before ptsd. Its even worse since ptsd-not sure why. Maybe its because I feel a bit crazy at times. I try to stay in check with my attitude or how I am coming accross, with patience or being short. I also have a traumatic brain injury. With family who lie constantly, I end up having suicidal ideation. I have been in depression most of the time since this. Further, I awoke at 4 am and could not move. I was on my stomach and my body would not turn, He had to help me. Hours later I got up to go to the bathroom and my right leg gave out and I fell to the ground. Again, he had to help me. Then he yelled at me tongith that I dont compliment him for taking such care of me. I see the dr tomorrow and am sure something is wrong with my speine. My moth tasts like pure salt.

I know there must be others with liars, who will never admit being wrongm and you will not get an apology from. How do you cope. I use to not care, just say it as his defense or self preservation, but cant anymoore. Not after loosing kids over this behavior. I cant find a way to accept this. He refuses polygraph test. Any and all comments and advice are welcome
 
Once a liar always a liar. I live with one too. He lies about the most ridiculous stuff too. He will have just gotten out of bed at 9 and be on the phone with a friend and tell them he has been up since 5. Why? He lies about big stuff too and then tries to tell me that he told me something or I am crazy when I confront him. There is no winning on that front. He lies so much he thinks what he says is true. Sad.
 
An old ex from years ago would constantly lie. He was a nice enough guy but the lying I couldn't deal with. Would lie about money, who he had been with, what he had been doing etc. I already had trust issues and I just couldn't deal with the lying. Hence he is now an ex!
My thoughts are you are worth more than having a person like that in your life.
All the best :)
 
I serperated from my husband 10 yrs ago and we are trying to re-unite.
I know you didn't ask, but I really have to ask.....
Why? How is this helping your stress levels?

I had a girlfriend (and both ex's but I won't talk about them) who lied constantly. I found out about it when I went to her house unannounced one day and her husband, who was my friend at one time, who she said she had left years prior, was vacuuming her house. I stood at the doorway, stunned. 'You live here?' He looked at me like I was crazy. It was then that I realized what crazy making was all about. Lies.

Why walk into something like that?
 
I couldn't see anything in that original post that suggested why "getting back together" might seem like a good idea. What's changed since you guys split up?

What does the couples therapist say about living with a chronic liar? I have a pretty good idea how that conversation is going to go (because my ex was a liar) but I had to ask.
 
He will have just gotten out of bed at 9 and be on the phone with a friend and tell them he has been up since 5.
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I have known 2 people who do just this sort of thing, constantly, with absolutely nothing to gain from it; a former friend, former, surprise, surprise, and my sister's on again/off again boyfriend. It almost seems like they live in a fantasy world where these things are actually happening. Neither of them will ever, ever, ever admit to lying even when confronted with undeniable evidence. A polygraph is not going to accomplish anything. You will never "prove" anything to him. He will just come up with excuses as to why you are wrong.

I don't know why they are like that. Despite having read explanations, it's something that is outside my realm of comprehension. I can understand lying for your own benefit. I do not understand lying for the sake of lying or whatever it is they're doing.
 
I guess pathological liar was the wrong term, because I do know that type and he does not do that. He lies to save his own face. He will change the story over and over when discussed if theres a chance that it will become more believable. He will never admit that he was less that what he thinks is "proper" or "normal". We all have issues, even those without ptsd, and he does too. He is unable to identify and express emotions, suffers mild depression, and a communication disorder (according to marriage counselor). Seems much better than the sex addict I dated, the alcoholic, and the real pathological liar that slept with his gun and put it to my head in the past 7 yrs since ptsd.

I would like to say that I dont need a man. Clearly, emotionally I dont. We own a house together that I still live in. I get disability that covers my meds, dog food, and barely food. I dont even have the money for an attorney to get a divorce. I live in a very small and politically corrupt town. In many ways, we get along well. He is probably the most stable person ever in my life, he is reliable but wont promise much. He is faithful. He never misses work. He doesnt have any big dreams, inspirations, or motivation so he is kind of boring, but I grew up with so much drama that it was really nice for a long time. Until I wanted something besides giving him children, caring for them, him and the house. I wanted an education, then he said no, maybe next year. I have never really been treated well so I guess I dont expect much.

He went years, and would prefer to never show anger. I found myself emotionless with him. When I do have any emotions, he flips to anger. He has little tolerance for somebody crying or upset. I hate liars, for whatever reason. I have plenty of faults, but will tell the truth even when it hurts the worst. Some people ask me why I just cant let it go, why when I know the truth, I cant just let it go. I did when I was stronger. I let it go. Now with ptsd I feel crazy half the time, I it makes me mad that someone says they love me but are willing to screw with my head. He sugar coats his behavior in front of counselor.

scout86-we only had one session regarding his lying. I admitted to becoming physical after him pushing me, but he never admitted. He said something like he tried to get around me on the staircase and she fell, he admits to raising his voice but not standing over a crying woman screaming. I know Im messed up right now, I admit that, but also see where I allow myself to get caught up in more work projects with him, and no fun time, nothing to look forward to. I have a list of stressors, but nothing positive. I know I am suppose to list an ice cream cone or a good meal on the positive side, but somehow it does not seem to equal a lawsuit, yrs of amending taxes, or putting in a bathroom.

I guess maybe I dont feel like I deserve any better.
 
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