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Binge Eating Strategies

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Digz

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Hi all,
One of my major challenges related to PTSD at the moment is overcoming my binge eating.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any good strategies, or strategies they've used successfully to overcome this? I keep on plugging away at it, but just can't seem to get past it.

Cheers all!
 
Have nothing but really boring food around. No binge triggers,just obnoxiously healthful and low-calorie stuff. If you can nutritionally and cost-wise? Go vegan...doesn't eliminate problem, just lowers damage done when you lose it, as cutting out meat/dairy takes out mostly high-calorie stuff.

Caloric targets-that is, setting maximum calories for the day? Might help. If you lose it and binge, go back to the target the next day.

Coffee helps. SSRI antidepressants help.

The above worked for me.

My top weight? 320 lbs.
Current weight, 195. Height 5' 9"
Admittedly, need to take some back off...STRESS eating...GRR.

Binging is something I still wrestle with, admittedly. Just a WHOLE LOT LESS DAMAGE when I eat three pounds of apples.
 
Thanks.
I've tried a lot of things. One of my biggest struggles I think is trying to maintain some respect for my body and not hate it, even when I'm overweight.
I do generally ensure I don't have my binge foods in the house, which is generally anything sugary.
My old psychologist told me it was a form of self-harm, so that's something else I try to remember when I'm anxious and I'm heading towards a binge.
 
I do generally ensure I don't have my binge foods in the house
My problem here is that if I don't have anything in the house it is nothing for me to go down to the shop and buy supplies :(

My old psychologist told me it was a form of self-harm
I find this really interesting! I guess it is because we are harming our body with too much food. Our insides will be struggling.

I am on day 1 of not over eating/binge eating. I got my T to draw up a kids type chart with boxes I have to tick ..... eg, no spending money on extra food, no over eating. We have an agreement that if I get ticks for each box for the day I am aloud to txt her. I have tried so many times to not binge/over eat and pretty much begged her for her help as I am killing myself with food :( Being able to txt her at the end of each good day is great motivation for me.
Day 1 has gone well
 
Im a big fan of substitution. Also carrots over sticks ;)

Meaning... Look what the binging is giving you, and start filling those need/wants in as many other ways as possible :) The caveat is to pick things that you want in your life.

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Physical :
- The feeling of fullness? (Similar category in sensory, but met 2 different ways)
- Food coma / guaranteed sleep?
- Warmth? (Most people are inside so much they don't realize how much extra body heat is created by consuming a lot of food. Want to stay warm working outdoors in winter? Stuff yourself at breakfast. It takes a good 5-10 hours to digest large quantities of food, and that entire time period is like carrying around your own personal heater.).
- Burning calories / muscles being used (seems weird, I know, but after ratiocination, digestion burns more calories than any other daily activity. Ratiocination uses roughly 80%, Digestion 50% of the remainder).
- et cetera
- et cetera

Physiological :
- Malnourishment. ((May seem odd, but many if not most overweight people are either malnourished or would be if they didn't overeat. (Classic example is the meat & potatoes crowd. The vitamins & minerals so abundant in certain fruit/veg are also usually present -in tiny amounts- in meat & potatoes. But one has to eat apx 5 KILOS of potatoes to get the vits/mins in half a cup of dark green veg, or a peach, etc. Shrimp, which is high in iodine, is another classic. People who eat shrimp regularly? Usually only eat 1/4 pound or less. People who don't eat shrimp regularly? Easily consume over a pound of it! ) When our bodies are chronically deprived of certain nutrients? Not only does it cause over eating of the nutritionally lacking foods, attempting to get the nutrients, but it triggers binging of "treat" foods that are abundant in those nutrients. ****** You mentioned binging on sweets. I'll lay money on the table you have pain issues. I could be wrong, especially if you're binging on bananas (which hints -shouts- at muscle spasms, body craving the potassium to relax spasming muscles: calcium to flex, potassium to relax)... But the link to pain & sweets is the brain. The brain runs on glucose & glucose alone. The purest form of sugar around. The 4th ventrical of the brain? Is what produces endorphins / body's natural pain killer. Without a steady supply of sugar? The brain will die. Increased use of the brain? Like a 4th ventricle working overtime around the clock dealing with pain, burns a whole f*ckload of sugar. LOL. It's a quirky thing. People with pain issues can usually consume often well over 1,000 kcal a day in "empty" (aka sugar) calories, and not gain an ounce. Quite simply because their brain is burning it all off. But switch to 1,000+ calories coming from protein or fat? Fwoomph! Gain weight like crazy.))
- et cetera
- et cetera
- et cetera

Then just keep brainstorming!!! :D
Mental
Emotional
Trauma
Sensory
Lifestyle
Habitual
Social

Et cetera

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Clearly... There are dozens -if not hundreds- of possible things you could be gaining, getting your need/wants met by binging. Sit down & list them out like above? Voila. Problems with active solutions.

From consuming a few tablespoons a day of pure sugar to help meet pain needs, to figuring out what you're malnourished in (I'm not saying you are! Just IF that's on your list) so you're no longer consuming 10lbs of potatoes at several thousand calories, but an orange at 1/100th of the volume & kcal... To adding exercise (we need muscle movement, whether it's exercise or digestion), to turning up your thermostat &/or dressing warmer if anxiety cold or winter, Or taking a hot bath in summer... Taking a sleeping pill if tired instead of eating yourself to sleep... Drinking water for the full feeling (or in sensory, increasing the amount you're being touched), or do sit-ups to make the muscles swell, or eat beans/anything else that gives you gas ;).

I'm fond of charts... So I'd end up writing lists like

Pain - Sugar daily, analgesics, physical therapy
Sleep - Meds, exercise, naps
Fullness - Water, sit-ups, compression gear, beans
Anxiety Cold - Take a hot shower, turn up thermostat, dress warmer, get blood moving, anti anxiety meds, etc.

See a need/want & look at ways to fill it. That way, instead of fighting both what's causing the need/want AND denying your body & yourself the 1 solution you know works... You've got dozens of solutions in play that FILL those need/wants. Rewarding, instead of punishing. :D Carrots over sticks.
 
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I wish I could figure out how to overcome binge eating also. This shitty mix of depression and binge eating sucks the most, fattening, and not having the will to exercise and all.

This thread might turn out quite helpful, so yea, I guess I will try. I just wish there were any vegetables in the house, we seem to have only high calorie stuff.
 
@Digz -
I feel for you and you are SO not alone. I've found on this forum that while I haven't had to endure some horrible, intensely violent single events that happen to people on here (and I know they have binging challenges also) I find that my high number of less shocking assaults have over time made me feel I in a way deserve self harm when I'm really depressed.
So I am a sufferer of binging on EVERYTHING. Food, booze, when I work out its hard for me to stop, when I am able to be intimate with my husband it's usually a weekend binge and then I go into hiding again with it.
Here are my suggestions for you with food binging-
I like the ideas so far on keeping better foods in the house, but I agree with @mrsps , in that I have a big enough problem that the during the day me is way different than night me. All my past attacks occurred at night, so I stuff booze and food constantly at night. My " day me" will buy awesome healthy stuff, tons of veggies, even crave tofu meals. Night me will then go in and start ransacking the house for bad food, and if I have nothing fattening in the house, (which I've tried tons of times, even have taped the fridge shut) I will go and drive to a fast food place and order like $40 worth of food, and then feel even worse, then feel compelled to throw it up. Thankfully I have not done that in two months, because taking on an added bulimia problem to all this would be the last thing I want. But maybe choose one thing you know you like and have it in the house, yet challenge yourself each day to not resort to that stuff. If you fail, at least it's not like a whole pizza or something. This is going to take time. You are filling a VERY emotional , trauma filled hole. I personally do not respond to writing down everything I eat every day, diets or people telling me what to eat. It makes my binges worse because it's forcing me to be hyper conscious of everything I eat at all times. But if it works for you, GREAT! :)
What seems to work for me is scheduling on a calendar my days. If I go to the gym, I can eat something more so I crave. If I have a bad day and hide in the house, I need to eat something healthier. It's like giving yourself food prizes when you do positive things. It doesn't always work, but works WAY better than cutting it out totally for me. It minimizes my binges.
 
When my PTSD flared so did my long buried ED's....in times of stress it goes into over drive....I can relate to everything that was said here.

But I've gotten much MUCH better, it flares only occasionally and I have strategies now. For me, it was unrecognized unabated anxiety...despite my belief I wasn't an anxious person...I come across as calm..level headed....oh yeah... but deep inside so far down I didn't even recognize it is a deep well of anxiety.

At first I had no control, I knew it and simply prepared for the worst. Surround yourself with the best food that will "do the trick" and make things easier/less harmful for the purge. I regret saying this but frankly, we all know its unstoppable at times.

Next phase I did was to identify my trigger times and situations...and then the hardest part was to "stall" myself before a binge and afterwards (before purging). My therapist started me on this, I needed to "sit" with the feelings and try to identify them....then when I could identify the feeling...the cause behind it.

It may not sound like much but it was extremely uncomfortable to do this. I had to do stomach breathing exercises and calming techniques. I kept at it and it slowly became a routine, I would know I was going to binge...portion out some food, eat -mindfully - not in a daze and then wait. I may eat again/more but then I would lay down, do my breathing and think about how I felt inside, what was triggering me.

I hope this doesnt sound trite, it made me "feel" and recognize that purging...dang, I felt...so darn relaxed afterwards! It calmed the intense anxiety. Anxiety I truly did not even know was there. But it was, and it had a cause.

After awhile, sometimes after eating part one...I could calm myself down and not eat part 2. Often not eating to the point of discomfort allowed me to skip the purge. I kept this up, and in one case I needed to stay away from someone who caused me stress. My body was warning me left and right and I just couldn't hear it. I swear there is truth to the stomach "being the second brain".....

I also read about damage like barretts esophagus...unlikely but you know it hit me hard to think I was hurting my self maybe physically, for sure psychologically...due to ancient abuse and even people in my current life.

That isn't right, I should not continue to pay for what others did to me. I began to see my body as something that didn't deserve continued abuse. May sound funny but I felt sorry for my body.

I used to binge/purge...nearly daily. Its rare now that I succumb and then its a shade of what it used to be, pretty minor in the big picture. I'm grateful.

Best to all of you, Whirlwind
 
OH my gosh @Whirlwind, you get a high five from me because A. you hit *crap* on the dot, B. you are an honest chick and I DIG that. YOU GO girl. :).
I am totally like you, I will have great weeks and even months, and then life happens, we needed to euthanize a pet recently, or my car breaks down the day I most need it, or people are fake or rude as crap day to day-things like that just send me off the EDGE again. SO, I give you props on being honest, so let me pay my dues- my parents didn't know how to raise me properly. They took the "lets keep you in a bubble while we can and not talk to you about the really bad stuff that can happen and then just hope for the best" up until when you go off to college. DIdn't go so well!!! I was a size 3 now a 9.Heavy, Heavy trauma. This jiggling and not fitting into anything is bringing a whole new dynamic of depression on top of everything else. I literally feel so disgusting. I am hitting the gym, but then with my pet gone, and my only female friend now gone, I can NOT stop forcing food down my throat. I am trying SO hard not to turn to bulimia. It was a friends illness and it was disgusting. I swore I would never do it but it's happend once every four months. Anarchy, thanks for the link, but even in this thread everyone please be careful to say things like oh i dont have any understanding of this like its AIDS or something. This is a VERY, sensitive illness. When I do throw up, I take all measures like I'm friggin' the FBI hiding it from my husband. So please -all that aren't a part of it, please be as compassionate as possible.
 
The problems of a not quite shared language

I'd better clarify what I meant; that I have never had an Ed myself, so I don't know what it is like on the inside.

Sorry if it came accross that I don't have compassion.

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